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Old 11-01-2002, 03:08 PM
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Exclamation Pics: Obx Header Arrived! " The Skinny"!

GENERAL INFO: first of all thanks to beiruty for the hook up! now i ordered the header on wed, and it arrived at my door fedex today! this was how it was packaged. nice and neat with bubble wrap!
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part pics

without flas. there is a plastic bag of bolts and o-ringsetc that is not in the pic.
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exterior welds all look good!

but the "quality" issue comes when you get inside the manifold. i don't see it as a big deal. the rest of the pics will show what i mean. when you look inside there are no welds, and they finish of the edges with a dremel. there's the comptech difference! on the inner piping at the opening of the manifolds there is some rust as you will see. i don't believe it goes past that point, it's just where the inner pipe is exposed at the edge of the stainleess. i'm gonna remove it, and coat it with some high heat 1500 degree black paint just to be safe! i inspected the whole front and back manifolds with a flashlight and cleaned the whole header/downpipe with brake cleaner on the inside! there are some particles of soot and metal that you don't want in your system! then i blew all piping dry with a leaf blower. i plan on redoing the header a second time with brake cleaner before the install. the front manifold had a very small dent on the top of the 3rd pipe, you will see it. very small and doesn't bother me. i'll let you guys know monday what the results are! installation, any issues etc. far as i can tell as of right now, i think we have a winner!!! other than the higher quality of ct in a few areas, i can't see it justifying the 3-1 price discrepency! it looks just like a ct! all will be known on monday!!! i will let you know if i think it was worth it! kman
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pic 1342 and 1343 show the dremel marks inside the manifold

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looks good, to bad it's under the car!
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rust pics! 1345, 1346

shows the edges of the pipe with the rust! removing and resealing.
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Steve, is this a new header? Looks like it is used.
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1346 rust

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1348 &49 show more dremel finishing inside manifold

shaved down ruff edges
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1349 dremel shave

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dent pic! on 3rd pipe of top manifold

this seems to be a common thing? i noticed this small dent on some other pipes from a-cl. mine is almost unoticeable.
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Talking what it looks like put together

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ZOOM ZOOM! HOPE THIS WAS HELPFUL? kman
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Exclamation nah C, looks used but it's not..

Originally posted by TypeSDragon
Steve, is this a new header? Looks like it is used.
the dirt and stuff inside is just a byproduct of the way it's manufactured. they may run it through a test for leaks , but definately not used! the pipes would be totally discolored! headers yellow from the heat pretty quick! p.s. there's a pic with a flash that makes the whole header look yellowish...
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seems like a lot of work.
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Question don't get it?

Originally posted by 1999TL
seems like a lot of work.
whaddya mean? " alot of work" ???
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Hey! Those look familiar!

Steve, here's how I cleaned them out. First you need this "tool"

-----(string)-----XX(rag)XX-----(string)-----o (washer)

Tie a string on both ends of the rag, and a washer to one of the strings. The washer is to get the string through the pipe (let gravity do your work for you).

Take 'em outside and use soapy water on the rag (or brake cleaner - I used soapy water and it worked well). Run the rag back and forth a bit, and it will knock the junk off the inside. Just rinsing with water - or brake cleaner probably won't be enough.

If you notice - the gunk is only where they bent the pipes - it's probably some lubricating compound used in the bending process.

Yeah - it's a lot of work, but I don't think you want that junk going in and ruining your catalytic convertor. Those things are VERY expensive.

(BTW - you have the collectors on the wrong down pipes... swap 'em)
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Talking hey scott, i was going to do that rag tool!

thanks! needs a good scrub, i just threw the collectors on without paying attention. i know the obx stamp goes on the bottom. i'll pm you S
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Have you personally seen a comptech up close to compare the quality? They look great from the pics and the price is right also!!
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Exclamation oh yea, up close in and out!

there's a diff, but like i said not enough to justify 3-1 price diff IMHO. unless they do something drastic like crack right away! they do look great, too bad they mostly go unseen! i just went down to the garage to see that shiny tuba again!
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Congrats, Looks exactly like mine... but no bend for me

I guess what you are refering to as rust is night be just discoloraltion from heat of the TIG weilding.

Also, I did not bother cleaning or smoothing the inner tubes and the colloector... though, that is a great idea....

Also, we noticed that the headers ports are smaller than the block ports... so enlarging those headers ports is a great idea too!

Congrats again...
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Did you know that the stock opening is bigger than OBX? It was posted over at ACL with a comparison pic of the two. Just wondering why would you or anybody else buy something that is even more restrictive than the stock? And have you been reading some of the horror stories about the obx headers? Just trying to look out for you.

Enough of the bad news.

Good luck with them and let us know how it turns out.
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Exclamation hey shadow

wuz up? i know what i bought! if your talking about the stock block ports being bigger than the headers, they can be bored out , but regardless you still have more air flow! plus hooked into my magnaflow free flow cat converter and catback exhaust, and the injen cai! i think other than fitment issues this will be an inexpensive upgrade! yes, the comptechs are better quality but i spend $165 on door sills here, $100 on a shift knob there! look at how much we spend on b.s.! last night i dremeled out all the ruff spots in the manifolds and pipes, sanded out, cleaned out with brake cleaner , hot soapy water, then used 1500 degree high heat aluminum paint to touch up the weld spots and any exposed metal! looks even better than when i got em! of course anyway, i have read all the info on a-cl some good, some bad. the creamic thing looks like sh*t. you guys who know me, know how i flow with my ride. if i thought for a second this was a highly questionable deal i would never do it, you also know that i like to experiment! so let's see what happens? if they are sh*t , i'll be the first to tell you! kman
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Exclamation inside manifold!

dremeled, sanded , painted! now let's hope they perform!
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Originally posted by BlackShadow
Did you know that the stock opening is bigger than OBX? It was posted over at ACL with a comparison pic of the two. Just wondering why would you or anybody else buy something that is even more restrictive than the stock? And have you been reading some of the horror stories about the obx headers? Just trying to look out for you.

Enough of the bad news.

Good luck with them and let us know how it turns out.
Its not more restrictive, and its possible its better than the comptech.

To much of a free flowing exhaust can hurt a cars performance as well. If you have some restriction you can get some mid range power.

A guy with only headers from the last run he did of 14.8 at 94 mph stock he ran with OBX headers now, same conditions and ran 14.3 at 99 mph.

BIG difference. Auto CL-S...

No TYPE-S has hit that trap speed in a auto with just headers.
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Kman156... good job you did there... I wish I had done the same... I am sure if you dyno you see higher gains than mine...

I wished the headers came like that smothed , cleaned and Hi-temp painted... But I can not complain....

Just let us know of any added resonance sound...
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Re: Pics: Obx Header Arrived! " The Skinny"!

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GENERAL INFO: first of all thanks to beiruty for the hook up! now i ordered the header on wed, and it arrived at my door fedex today! this was how it was packaged. nice and neat with bubble wrap!


Are those new gaskets that came with the headers???
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Exclamation thanks B...yup! 2 brand new gaskets!

no decal though tomorrow morning is install. i'll be posting pics of the install and all info either good or bad! give me fuel, give me fire, give me HP i desire!!!:flamer: p.s. the reason they aren't finished like i did is they are probably pumping them out like krispy kreme's! and their less than $400!!! i love doing the extras anyway!
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What do you expect from OBX? BTW, are those made of stainless steel? I wouldn't touch it without gloves on cause it will stain your finger prints on it........you'll see what I mean after you put them on and run it for a while.
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I've had mine running for a week or so and have had no change in color beyond the initial color change when they first got heated up. Fingerprints didn't make a difference.
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looks really good! I like them
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Exclamation install this morning!

more info later! kman
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