TL-P with cold air intake,comptech header and free flow cat vs stock TYPE-S,what u think?

 

stock Type-S


@cUr@-TL

 

i second, stock type-s for sure.

 

will cat-back help?

 

yes but still not enough


pulley will help



@cUr@-TL

 

Stock TL-S, jus cuz i have one

 

Stock TL-P with I/H/E won't quite make up for the varriable valve timing & compression of the TL-S. It will put the T-LP up from 225 HP to about 250 HP. Stock TL-S has 260. If you are talking HP at the front wheels, I would say TL-P with I/H/E would have 180 or so and the stock TL-S would have 195 or so. IMHO of course.

 

is it worth getting all the pulleys?

 

the cheapest way to = a type-S from a TL-S is i/h/p iridium spark plugs and a tuned vafc.
but you are an easy 10hp under the type-S if not more

*edit: actually this setup beats a type-S...i have this on my '99 and i've bit my father's friend type-S over and over...we tried atleast 5times.

 

get just the lighter underdriving crank pulley.



@cUr@-TL

 

Type-S TB on a TL-P may help as well.

Just a thought.

Cheers !!!

 

Type S cams too, and the Comptech sticker of course! You can't forget that!

 

TL-S definitely. a blower would help a lot!

 

Does anyone know how much WHP does the stock TYPE-S has?I know my 00 with I/H/FC has about 185-190 WHP

 

i believe that it is around the 200 mark.....

 

I agree. Our 99 TL-P w/ I/H dynoed at 179. Stock TL-S has more.

 

How much HP does a TL-S make with intake, headers, and supercharger? I cant seem to understand the dyno on the comptech site. Thanks.

 

Stock TL-S makes about 200 WHP, although it varries from car to car +/- 5-8 hp. Comptech super charger with intake and headers adds about 40-45 peak whp. The big difference is the SC adds a lot of low - mid range torque, so the motor would really pull more on the low end.

 

a type S with the same mods would demolish a TL-P. thats why i don't think engine mods are worth it anymore, at least on my car...

 

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you're just mad cuz your car is slow as ballz


@cUr@-TL

 

ur just mad cuz a stock type S will rip you and ur 4 speed tranny a new asshole. even after ur mods :fingerfawk:

 

WHAT?? THATS IT!! Thats about how much at the crank.. 300hp? (im not sure exactly how to calculate it)... That really sucks, the S/C doesnt add much at all... I was expecting much much more... I guess its the high compression ratios...

 

Yeah, if the 5AT doesn't blow up in your face! I know both transmissions have had problems, but the 4AT hasn't had near the problems the 5AT has.

 

well all he seems to be concerned about is going fast, and the 5AT is .50 sec faster than the 4AT in the 1/4 mile...

 

If I had a TLP, I'd focus more on suspention mods *IF you HAD to upgrade the performance. If not, then pimping it would be the way to go...aka wheels & sound system.

 

Yeah, your about right. A TL-S with SC and I/H would have about 310 hp at the crank.

 

like i said before...it takes only $912 in parts to make a -p anihilate a typeS. CAI, HEADERS, Crank pulley, Sparks and a Vafc...and then another $200+ (doing most installs yourself)

But yeah, put that into a type-S and you'll destroy a tl-p so bad that dud is gonna leave his car in the middle of NY so newyorkers come and steal everything, even the headlights!

 

Well I don't think a FWD is very usable when you put a lot more than 300 HP into it anyway.

 

thats what i plan on putting into my car. but even if i lose to a modded -S i wouldnt give my baby up

 

The I/H/SC add about 45 WHP for about 265 WHP. With roughly 23% loss with the 5AT, that puts it at about 345HP at the crank. 345x.23=79 (hp loss due to tranny). 345-79= 266 (close).

The killer is an increase of 36 ft/lbs of torque at the wheels.

 

I am surprised.. I expected much much more in a Type S with a SC! That means that the SC isnt really worth it for the HP you gain..

TopGum, I cant believe there is a 23% powerloss.. thats much to high for a TL.. Thats about what Us maxima guys lose.. I think I read in comptech it was more like 19% but Im not sure.

I think I heard theres a few TL-S turbo guys.. How much powergain are they seeing compared to the S/C?

Thanks..

 

 

my man it doesnt work like that. You could set a turbo to run @ 2psi and a S/C to run @ 2psi and you'll get the same power but the S/C will be constant boost while the turbo gives boost when exhaust is great enough to make it spool.

Even though i've never seen/read/heard of a TL-S turbo (CL-S yes), if you intercool the S/C and raise it to lets say...7psi...you'll put 350WHP on the TL-S. Theres other MAJOR differences between this two, this are just some basic info.

 

All figures I've come accross are in the 21-24% loss for the 5AT. The CL guys with 6MT's fair much better, around 12-14% loss to the best of my limited knowledge. The AT is a glorified potato beater

Check out this thread on the SC. dollar for hp, it is more cost effective than it appears.

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