Odometer Cluster Lights
#2
I just did a s**t load of bulb replacements on a 2003 TL that i sold a few weeks ago.
Almost EVERY bulb was burnt out on the dash and the buttons. I think I replced 27 bulbs.
Anyway, the bulbs you need at 14v 60mA wire ended bulbs like this:
Since your going into your instrument cluster, you might as well start replacing ANY bulb that looks burnt. Go online, and order them, as it's cheaper than running around town looking for these scarce bulbs. Order like 30-40.
Your going to have to re-wire the bulbs into the socket, but it's easy. Just a metal pick, usually sold at Harbor Freight in a set of 4 for like $2.00, use the pick to losen the wires on the old bulb, and pull it out. Insert new bulb, and wrap the wire contacts around the socket holder. It has small channels that the wire sits into, so it's almost dummy-proof.
Make sure you stick with the SAME bulb and the SAME MilliAmp rating, as putting a different rated bulb will affect the voltage going to other bulbs on donw the line. You may have some bright spots on your dash, and some not-so-bright spots. Defiently noticeable at night.
PM me if you need further help.
Almost EVERY bulb was burnt out on the dash and the buttons. I think I replced 27 bulbs.
Anyway, the bulbs you need at 14v 60mA wire ended bulbs like this:
Since your going into your instrument cluster, you might as well start replacing ANY bulb that looks burnt. Go online, and order them, as it's cheaper than running around town looking for these scarce bulbs. Order like 30-40.
Your going to have to re-wire the bulbs into the socket, but it's easy. Just a metal pick, usually sold at Harbor Freight in a set of 4 for like $2.00, use the pick to losen the wires on the old bulb, and pull it out. Insert new bulb, and wrap the wire contacts around the socket holder. It has small channels that the wire sits into, so it's almost dummy-proof.
Make sure you stick with the SAME bulb and the SAME MilliAmp rating, as putting a different rated bulb will affect the voltage going to other bulbs on donw the line. You may have some bright spots on your dash, and some not-so-bright spots. Defiently noticeable at night.
PM me if you need further help.
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Ndanny (05-14-2014)
#4
Since "Danny" is my real name, I am reposting what I did within the past month or so just for you!
I agree with the previous comment. Change them all out while your dashboard is open.
What I posted in another thread is what follows. This should get you everything you need to get your dashboard to light up again.
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Thanks everybody for all the great information in this thread. Since some of these posts are hard to follow, I wanted to summarize what I did to complete the replacement. I did the entire job for under $100.
Other threads talk about going to LED, but I wanted to maintain the original look and was intimidated by the sottering and disassembly necessary to perform the conversion. I also didn't want to waste time fine tuning the light levels, so I chose to stay with the incandescents.
Here is my revised parts list:
PART I:
These lights are for all the buttons and switches.
Mouser Part No. 560-DNW1DW10 - Qty 5
Heater/AC Control Unit - BULB, NEO-WEDGE (14V 1.1W) Honda Part No. 79670-SE0-003
Clock Light - Qty. 1
This was early in the process so I used the OEM part here.
Honda Description: SOCKET ASSY., BULB (T4.2) (9.5V 100MA)
Honda Part No. 35505-S0K-A01
Mouser Part No. 560-CNW123 (14V 40MA) - Qty 7
Switch - Controller/Dimmer BULB, NEO-WEDGE (14V 40MA) Honda Part No. 35852-S0K-A01
Switch - Sunroof 14 BULB, NEO-WEDGE (T3) (14V 40MA) (ALPS) Honda Part No. 35861-S84-A01
Heater Control Unit BULB (14V 40MA) Honda Part No. 35851-SP0-911
Switch - Seat Heater BULB (14V 40MA) Honda Part No. 35851-SZ3-A01
Switch - Seat Heater BULB (14V 40MA) Honda Part No. 35851-SZ5-A11
Mouser Part No. 560-8111 (14V 60MA)
These are wired bulbs without bases; You will have to thread them yourself! No big deal.
Switch - Reset - BULB (14V 60MA) Honda Part No. 35850-SZ3-921
Switch - Foglight (Green) - BULB (14V 60MA) Honda Part No. 35850-SZ3-911
Switch - Foglight (White) - BULB, NEO-WEDGE (T3) (14V 60MA) (TOYO) Honda Part No. 35861-S84-T01
Switch - Hazard Lights - BULB, NEO-WEDGE (T3) (14V 60MA) (TOYO) Honda Part No. 35861-S84-T01
Mouser Part No. 606--8111 (14V 65MA)
These are wired bulbs without bases; You will have to thread them yourself!
Switch - TCS/Cruise - BULB (14V 65MA) (WITH CAP) Honda Part No. 36776-S0K-A01
Switch - TCS/Cruise - BULB, NEO-WEDGE (14V 65MA) Honda Part No. 35861-S0A-T01
Up to this point, my project involved changing all the dashboard bulbs except for the ones in the instrument cluster, which were fine.
My total cost up to this point was about $30.
-------
PART II:
Once I reinstalled the instrument cluster, I discovered more bulbs had failed between my taking out the instruent panel and reinstalling it. So my project got bigger.
A. Indicator Lights
These 14 bulbs that show the indicator lights for things such as Cruise Control, TCS, Battery, etc. were purchased from Mouser. They are wedge bulbs and have a black base except for the Cruise Control indicator, which has a blue base.
Part #: 560-E74
Mfr. #: E74
Desc.: Lamps Std Glass Wedge 14V .1A .72M
Qty. : 15
Cost $13.39
Note: Due to the age of these bulbs, they were tricky to remove from the plastic Honda base. You have to wiggle them around a lot to loosen them, but eventually you should get the hang of it. Sure beats the $6 a bulb price from Honda.
-------
B. Remaining Instrument Gauge Lights
Instrument Panel/Blue Bases - Qty 7 - Part No. 35505-SJ4-003 (14 V)
Instrument Panel - Red Bases - Qty 4 - Part No. 78181-S0K-A21 (9.5 V)
I chickened out and ordered them from the dealer since there weren't close alternatives from Mouser or any other vendor in terms of amps/watts and I was afraid of screwing up the light levels.
Cost $63.73
In hindsight, I probably should have at least ordered the 7 - 14 V bulbs to see if they would do the job before buying them from the dealer. This would have lowered my cost considerably. I still saved a substantial amount of money with the bulbs I was able to order from Mouser, though. Live and learn.
I agree with the previous comment. Change them all out while your dashboard is open.
What I posted in another thread is what follows. This should get you everything you need to get your dashboard to light up again.
=======
Thanks everybody for all the great information in this thread. Since some of these posts are hard to follow, I wanted to summarize what I did to complete the replacement. I did the entire job for under $100.
Other threads talk about going to LED, but I wanted to maintain the original look and was intimidated by the sottering and disassembly necessary to perform the conversion. I also didn't want to waste time fine tuning the light levels, so I chose to stay with the incandescents.
Here is my revised parts list:
PART I:
These lights are for all the buttons and switches.
Mouser Part No. 560-DNW1DW10 - Qty 5
Heater/AC Control Unit - BULB, NEO-WEDGE (14V 1.1W) Honda Part No. 79670-SE0-003
Clock Light - Qty. 1
This was early in the process so I used the OEM part here.
Honda Description: SOCKET ASSY., BULB (T4.2) (9.5V 100MA)
Honda Part No. 35505-S0K-A01
Mouser Part No. 560-CNW123 (14V 40MA) - Qty 7
Switch - Controller/Dimmer BULB, NEO-WEDGE (14V 40MA) Honda Part No. 35852-S0K-A01
Switch - Sunroof 14 BULB, NEO-WEDGE (T3) (14V 40MA) (ALPS) Honda Part No. 35861-S84-A01
Heater Control Unit BULB (14V 40MA) Honda Part No. 35851-SP0-911
Switch - Seat Heater BULB (14V 40MA) Honda Part No. 35851-SZ3-A01
Switch - Seat Heater BULB (14V 40MA) Honda Part No. 35851-SZ5-A11
Mouser Part No. 560-8111 (14V 60MA)
These are wired bulbs without bases; You will have to thread them yourself! No big deal.
Switch - Reset - BULB (14V 60MA) Honda Part No. 35850-SZ3-921
Switch - Foglight (Green) - BULB (14V 60MA) Honda Part No. 35850-SZ3-911
Switch - Foglight (White) - BULB, NEO-WEDGE (T3) (14V 60MA) (TOYO) Honda Part No. 35861-S84-T01
Switch - Hazard Lights - BULB, NEO-WEDGE (T3) (14V 60MA) (TOYO) Honda Part No. 35861-S84-T01
Mouser Part No. 606--8111 (14V 65MA)
These are wired bulbs without bases; You will have to thread them yourself!
Switch - TCS/Cruise - BULB (14V 65MA) (WITH CAP) Honda Part No. 36776-S0K-A01
Switch - TCS/Cruise - BULB, NEO-WEDGE (14V 65MA) Honda Part No. 35861-S0A-T01
Up to this point, my project involved changing all the dashboard bulbs except for the ones in the instrument cluster, which were fine.
My total cost up to this point was about $30.
-------
PART II:
Once I reinstalled the instrument cluster, I discovered more bulbs had failed between my taking out the instruent panel and reinstalling it. So my project got bigger.
A. Indicator Lights
These 14 bulbs that show the indicator lights for things such as Cruise Control, TCS, Battery, etc. were purchased from Mouser. They are wedge bulbs and have a black base except for the Cruise Control indicator, which has a blue base.
Part #: 560-E74
Mfr. #: E74
Desc.: Lamps Std Glass Wedge 14V .1A .72M
Qty. : 15
Cost $13.39
Note: Due to the age of these bulbs, they were tricky to remove from the plastic Honda base. You have to wiggle them around a lot to loosen them, but eventually you should get the hang of it. Sure beats the $6 a bulb price from Honda.
-------
B. Remaining Instrument Gauge Lights
Instrument Panel/Blue Bases - Qty 7 - Part No. 35505-SJ4-003 (14 V)
Instrument Panel - Red Bases - Qty 4 - Part No. 78181-S0K-A21 (9.5 V)
I chickened out and ordered them from the dealer since there weren't close alternatives from Mouser or any other vendor in terms of amps/watts and I was afraid of screwing up the light levels.
Cost $63.73
In hindsight, I probably should have at least ordered the 7 - 14 V bulbs to see if they would do the job before buying them from the dealer. This would have lowered my cost considerably. I still saved a substantial amount of money with the bulbs I was able to order from Mouser, though. Live and learn.
Last edited by EnzyteBob; 05-14-2014 at 08:43 PM.
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#5
If your odometer display is real dim even with the headlights off, you probably need the small circuit board on the back of the instrument cluster. Part # 78147 SOK A01, dealer only, about $50. I'd still replace all the bulbs, once you have the cluster off. Or at least all the illumination bulbs, as they are on for longer periods than the warning bulbs.
#6
Thanks for the part #. My 2000 TL's odo display hasn't been illuminated for a good while....just kept putting off doing anything, as the other dash lights all work fine.
Seems like a good rainy day project !!!
Seems like a good rainy day project !!!
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