niko14

I just read on the Comptech Form web site, That
they are not going to be comming out with a Super Charger
for the CL-P or TL-P???? WTF!!! MIKE B mentioned that it needs
to meet ULEV ****..who gives a **** about ULEV..
as long as it will pass smog in cali...

Got_3.2?

iTrader: (2)

post a link to his post.

thanx

niko14

http://www.comptechusa.com/cgi-bin/f...m=24&topic=104

i'am so pissed right now!!

niko14

mike B & comptech can suck my ****

Got_3.2?

iTrader: (2)

yo chill out...read page 2 he didnt say they were stopping the project. they are still weorking on it.

niko14

yeah right i've heard those word from his mouth before.

"Gosh, take it easy! I didn't say we decided not to make it. I said it would take longer. We are still working on the project. "

Comptech=waiting game
whatever..shouldn't expect them damm thing to come out for another year....

niko14

Longer from comptech means ~ 9-12 months btw..

KJ32

Come to think of it, we don't need SC. All drivers in a TL/CL-p are better than a SC in any type-s. Bring it on

niko14

your right, but i'am still Disappointed since we all know
how long it takes comptech to develop products..

galfert

I don't understand you CL-P/TL-P owners b i t c h ing about the supercharger. If you are wanting to add mods to your cars. Why didn't you start off with a Type-S??? I can understand a Premium owner adding headers, CAI, and better tires. ....but after that the cost per performance is silly... no? Why not have spent the extra at the beginning with a Type-S? I mean to put a supercharger in a Premium is just not going to give you the cost to performance ratio that a Type-S owner would get. My point being that your started with a pricy car to begin with...and then you say you can afford all these mods including a SC then how could you no have been able to have started off with the Type-S to begin with?????

The Type-S was built with performance in mind. The Premium is called a Premium for a reason. It isn't lesser. It shouldn't be considered cheaper. It isn't inferior to the Type-S in anything....other than performance. All the luxuries are in the Premium. Actually you can even think of the Premium as having its benefits... being a gentler, quieter ride. Even the seats are more comfortable in the Premium. I even think the stereo sounds better in the Premium. The cars were made with a different client in mind.

A SC is going to be a lof of cash. I just don't see how a Premium owner would be so perfomance minding to be willing to spend the money for the SC if they didn't do it in the beginning by having starte with the Type-S.

Please enlighten me if I'm really way off base here.

pianoman41

Well, how about the fact that the Type S has only been available since the 2002 model year. Which means all those who have TL-Ps from 2001 and older are itching for some HP. This is the only choice they had, except for selling their TL outright and starting over.

Tatewaki

If they have Type S for 99 model year, I'd have bought it...no doubt in my mind

Tatewaki

neuronbob

No offense meant, but you are, a little. As pianoman said above, the TL-S has been available for only a year and a half. The current-generation TL has been available since '98 (as '99 model), selling tens of thousands yearly. This is the market that Comptech should be seeking to mollify as this will result in more sales than to TL-S owners. You are right, however, when you state that the TL-S and TL-P are essentially the same except for performance...in the 2002 model year. I, myself, have no interest in the headers and am satisfied with the 2002 TL-P, and find that the car has plenty of power! It just needed a better suspension, which I bought.

galfert

Oh my bad. I did forget that the Type-S came out later.

-Rz-UA5

Woundn't the accord SC kit will fit the 99 TL???
Since the accord v6 is very very similar to the 99s
Correct me if I m wrong

benzo555

I can clearly see your point. But I like the sleeper status of a non-type S

NighthawkBlack

The problem is the ULEV standard of the TL P and 99-01 TL. Comptech wants to release a supercharger that can get CARB certification and that is really hard with the ULEV std.

NSXNEXT

iTrader: (2)

Yeah but the 99 TL wasn't ULEV compliant.

numbaonexstunna

oh well.......my cars paid off soon & im gettin rid of it.......hate the tranny problem........
and who cares if they're not making it yet, it would just blow your tranny anyways

NighthawkBlack

Some of you get so stupid with this topic. "Argh your tranny will blow with a supercharger or our trannies can't handle the power. " Im sick of this crap.

NO ONE"S TRANSMISSION HAS BLOWN DUE TO MODDING WITH A SUPERCHARGER! SO HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT POWER IS CORRELATED WITH YOUR TRANNY GOING?

OUR TRANNIES HAVE A DEFECT

CAN YOU SAY DEFECT?

It will blow whether you mod or not! Some of us are lucky while others aren't

WHICH ONE OF YOU SMART GUYS IS AN ENGINEER THAT KNOWS THE TRANNY BLOWS BECAUSE IT CAN"T HANDLE THE POWER?

LAST TIME I CHECKED THERE WERE PARTS THAT DISINTEGRATED NO MATTER HOW YOU DROVE JUST CAUSE IT WAS DESIGNED POORLY. THEY ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE AND MADE NEW PARTS AND EXTENDED THE WARRANTY.



Jerks Its so easy for many of us on this board to say something negative when you don't even know what your talking about.

A SUPERCHARGER WILL NOT CAUSE YOUR TRANNY TO BLOW THERE IS NO PROOF SO SHUT UP ALREADY CAUSE ALL OF YOU KNOW MOST TRANNIES THAT BLEW WERE BONE STOCK

BY THE WAY THEY ARE MAKING IT THEY JUST THINK ITS HARDER TO MEET CARB CERTIFICATION.

numbaonexstunna

so if it blows by usage......and you get a supercharger and work the tranny harder.....wont it blow easier?

so if someones tranny blew at 35,000 miles........it would have blown at 35,000 miles if he put on a supercharger from the start??? im sure it would have blown a lot earlier

ExOwner

Re: transmissions blowing because of extra power

1) even if your tranny can handle the extra power the SC will definitely void your powertrain warranty

2) trannies contain various wear items such as little tiny clutches, more power means more wear

3) trannies contain various shafts that are limited in the amount of torque they can handle, SC increases torque

4) the tranny's torque converter is kind of like a clutch in a manual transmission, and more torque sent to it wears it out faster

Even if you don't believe all the above, maybe you'll believe Acura. Look at the NSX: when you get it with an automatic transmission the engine has less power. This is because they don't yet have an auto tranny capable of handling the same power that the manual tranny can handle, so thy dial the power back on the engine. Believe me, the marketing people at Acura hate this but it's necessary because the extra power would spell doom for the tranny.

As I recall when the Type-S came out the marketing collateral stated that there had been power-handling modifications to the transmission. 225hp can be handled by the basic tranny, while 260hp cannot so theyt "beefed it up" so to speak.

This is tha case with other manufacturers, namely that certain engine/transmission combinations are not allowed due to power handling limits of certain transmissions.

I'm not making this up, and anyone who somehow gets it stuck in their head that their TL should be able to safely handle any horsepower they throw at it ... is sorely mistaken.

Try this experiment: get a normal pencil and have a 5 year old kid try to break it bt twisting it. Now try yourself. You can twist harder than a 5yo kid (I hope) and you can break it while the kid cannot. Now imagine the pencil is your transmission, and the 5y okid is the stock engine, and you are the SCed engine.

Get it???

bdimc2001

Everybody is stupid

Flame me...

You ---> :flamer: :flamer: :flamer: :thefinger<---Me

Brian

too many people here talk out of their azz.

NighthawkBlack

Bottom line is the trannies couldnt handle regular driving so once they fix that and extra 50 hp shouldnt matter