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Old 01-04-2002, 08:15 PM
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new 2003 acura cl Info. (6speed,LSD...)

Well here's the info.

L.A. Auto Show (OFFICIAL 2003 CL INFO & PICTURES)
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...threadid=57421


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Old 01-04-2002, 08:23 PM
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Re: new 2003 acura cl Info. (6speed,LSD...)

Originally posted by NOVAwhiteTypeS
Well here's the info.

L.A. Auto Show (OFFICIAL 2003 CL INFO & PICTURES)
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...threadid=57397
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Old 01-04-2002, 10:37 PM
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That new tranny sounds sweet! OK, so who will be the first to get it swapped into our TL's
Old 01-04-2002, 10:56 PM
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Oh yeah... it looks nice... and finally it's real manual....
Old 01-04-2002, 11:19 PM
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Ahhhh, a real manual transmission at last! Drool, drool...

The styling leaves a lot to be desired! They should have adopted the TL's headlight "cutout" in the bumper to give it a more agressive look. The 6-spoked wheels are OK, but nothing to shout about. And where are the fog lights? The lower bumper seems to have a goofy, toothless grin without them.

I think Honda is making the same mistake they did with their Accord coupes: they looked too much like their sedan cousins. The CL looks too much like the TL, especially from the side. Coupe drivers tend to want a more aggressive styling, more sharp lines and a raked profile. Honda restyled the Accord Coupes, why not the CL?

Not saying that the TL is ugly, mind you just that CL's should look more aggressive.

Things I do like: the brushed aluminum trim is beautiful.

Anyway, seeing the new CL puts me at ease: I think the TL is safe for another year for sure, since Acura hasn't made any significant changes to the CL. If anything, the CL is more like the 02 TLs.

But MMM that stick shift and e-brake are delicious!

BTW, the black-trimmed headlights make it look like the car's wearing mascara ... I'll have to reserve judgment on that one though.
Old 01-04-2002, 11:50 PM
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damn i like the cl...especiually the 6 speed....but damn the front looks ugly without the fog lights..lol
Old 01-05-2002, 12:44 AM
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i saw something on the tv tonight (or my bro encountered some pix on the net)...

- wood trim replaced by what seemed to be metallic silver
- just rear of the shifter was a type s emblem and 7 circles indicating all the forward gears and reverse (lights up?) under a clear laminate
- headlights looked to be black housings
- taillights are red/clear a la tl's
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it really looks the same to me besides the blackout lights and no fogs...that could be an advantage for NHB people...it makes the car look sporty, but its not worth it to trade a new 01 for a 03...the 6 speed is hott, period...Shyne
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Arent there any 2003 TL pictures???? hmmm.... hope its more impressive then the CL... perhaps some HP increase
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did you notice they say the dash is backlit! That's awesome. Hopefully the next TL will be too.
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Let's see...
The black housing headlights..... hmmm, maybe with a dark colored CL.
The front fascia... hmmm, it seems to be missing something, yeah that's it... the fog lights. But that probably comes as an option.
The tail lights and the e-brake, I dig.
6 speed manual, I adore.

I wonder what's next for our TL.
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Originally posted by crmsnidol
did you notice they say the dash is backlit! That's awesome. Hopefully the next TL will be too.
The current TL gauges are already backlit! That is, the nomenclature is lit from behind, as opposed to sidelit where you have the bulbs lighting up the gauge from the sides.
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The LSD they mentioned.... it sounds like ATTS on Prelude Type SH......

I kinda like the black-out headlights... taillights definitely looks cleaner than current, all red ones....6-speed and console mounted hand-brake looks SOOOOO YUMMY.....

Andy Kuo
Old 01-05-2002, 03:22 AM
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Originally posted by VDo
OK, so who will be the first to get it swapped into our TL's
HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!! that tranny is so fvkin sweet!!! can we even do this??? would it be possible??? i know with money anything is possible but im just talking in terms of a simple tranny swap. how would the clutch pedal be installed??? does anyone know if its a hydraulic or mechanical linkage? if its hydraulic then it shouldnt be that hard right? im pretty clueless when it comes to clutch engagement
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what are the gear ratio's?
Old 01-06-2002, 07:15 PM
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heres the new ratios for the 6 speed along w/ the rsx-s and nsx

CL
1st 3.933
2nd 2.478
3rd 1.700
4th 1.250
5th 0.976
6th 0.771
Final Drive: 3.286

NSX
1st 3.066
2nd 1.956
3rd 1.428
4th 1.125
5th 0.914
6th 0.717
Final Drive: 4.062

RSX-S
1st 3.266
2nd 2.130
3rd 1.517
4th 1.147
5th 0.921
6th 0.738
Final Drive: 4.388
Old 01-06-2002, 07:16 PM
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and most likely the cl will have dealer optional fogs to replace our current ****ty road lamps.
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Manual CL type S has better gear ratio than RSX type S and NSX!!!! woohoo

guess how much faster is the manual????

what's the cost of putting the manual into our TLs??? 5k? or more? any guesses??

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Originally posted by daverman

The current TL gauges are already backlit! That is, the nomenclature is lit from behind, as opposed to sidelit where you have the bulbs lighting up the gauge from the sides.
Daverman - look at the dash of an RL and compare it to the TL. See the difference? What do you call it then? I know Acura at least refers to it as backlit and is even making a point of mentioning it as an addition to the new CL-S.
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here are some general and cl-s/6mt pix...

http://public.fotki.com/stanman/2002_la_autoshow/
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time to go for a test drive when it comes out
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Originally posted by crmsnidol
Daverman - look at the dash of an RL and compare it to the TL. See the difference? What do you call it then? I know Acura at least refers to it as backlit and is even making a point of mentioning it as an addition to the new CL-S.
I've never seen the RL's dash at night, so I don't really know
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Thumbs down

I give thumbs down on the lack of fogs and the clear upper tail section. It looks like an afterthought. They should have left it red.

Everything else looks nice though. I still can't believe no fogs.
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Originally posted by daverman

I've never seen the RL's dash at night, so I don't really know
Did you ever see a Lexus dash or Infiniti? That's backlit. The RL has it and now the CL has it. I'm hoping the TL gets it for the next gen model too.
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Originally posted by city001
Manual CL type S has better gear ratio than RSX type S and NSX!!!! woohoo
Not really. It's less agressive and more suited for our low rpm
power train. But, it is better than our automatic transmissions
which is really what matters. If the TLS manual comes out, man
no one would buy a CLS. Makes me think we'll never get one.
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I'd definitely take that car into consideration after TL. Maybe a TL-S with 6 speed. but doubt they're gonna make one. you think?
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