Guest

I was wanting to use Mobil 1 but as has been discussed here Mobil 1 only has 5W30 as well.

My dealer is using Castrol 5W30 because of the pervious TLs used it. They are getting 5W20 but could not get a date.

I'm at 3800 now, I need to change it. What do you guys think.

imax

Go ahead with the 5W-30 Mobile 1

LoveSick

Mobil1 has 10W30 and the most wanted 15W50. All in Race Proven Synthetic version.

Road Rage

I use 5w30 and will continue to do so.

10w30 in the summer is ok - 15w50 is not recommended ever.

There have been many posts on this topic.

songoku

Same here...

andrews32

Tell them how it is...

Guest

Thanks for the input, I was leaning that way.

Do you think Mobil 1 will make a 5W20?

Xorg

I sent email to Castrol, Valvoline, and Mobil.

Mobil has no plans to make a 5W20 synthetic, Castrol makes a 5W20 synthetic blend (incredibly hard to find though), and Valvoline also has no plans to make a 5W20 synthetic.

In synthetic grades, the 20 vs. 30 is really not a big difference, so I'm using Mobil 5W30 Mobil 1.

Guest

I saw the Castrol 5W20 Syntec(?) blend this weekend at Auto Zone.

Xorg

I'll have to check AutoZone out in my area, I looked in Pep Boys, Sam's, and NAPA Auto and none of them had it :-(

imax

Blend is different from full synthetic. If using a synthetic I, personally, would use the FULL synthetic.

Road Rage

But not Castrol full synthetic.

It is only a G3 lube, not a G4 like Mobil 1 or Valvoline or Pennzoil syns. Redline is a G5.

A G3 is marginally better than a G2 (mineral oil) but way below G4 or G5 lubes in terms of longevity, protection, etc.

In Europe, the Syntec sold here is not allowed to be labeled as synthetic - it is basically a fortified oil, commonly known as a hydrowax.

If you are going to have to pay full syn money, get a full syn - G4 or better!

Pawel

How come some of you guys want to put 5W20 instead of 5W30. Shouldn't we put 5W30 in, according to the manual?
I use Castrol Syntec 5W30

Guest

The 2002 TLS atleast uses 5W20. If you use 5W30 the next time the manual says you should go back to the 5W20.

I haven't see any Redline products. Where is the best places to look for the Redline, I wouldn't mind using it either.

Xorg

One reason you don't see Redline anywhere is because it costs about an arm and half a leg :-)

Road Rage

I assure you all my extremities are intact...
check out www.redlineoil.com

They have dealer list available. Comptch also sells the stuff and uses it in their race cars.

QuickRick

Guys--I too wondered about this first oil change and that wierd 5w-20 oil the manual recommends. I am a big fan of Redline (polyoil ester base) Redline is some of the finest oils you'll find but it costs $8./Qt too! I sent them an email asking them about Honda requirements and viscosities. Redline makes a 5w-20 synthetic but couldn't help me on cracking Hondas code on ATF or anti-freeze type. As in Japan, these guys keep secrets and stick together. I don't want to do anything to damage my car or harm my warranty so I want to follow Honda's desires for now. I have domestic cars too and they are not so clanish about types of products allowable. (shame on Honda here)

Guest

I've got my Mobil 1 5W30 and taking it in Monday to have the oil changed.

I asked the service manager just to be on the safe side and she said it would not void the warranty to use the Mobil.

SSMAN66

Why do you believe you're in dire need of an oil change at 3800 miles? Today's modern oil blends only require changing for 2 reasons, fuel contamination and moisture. Way back in yesteryear it was mandatory to change oil frequently because the engines lacked efficiency. There was a tremendous amount of fuel contamination.

The factory service interval is 7,500 miles. The philosophy of 3,000 and 3,500 mile oil changes has been pushed on us by oil companys and companys offering quick oil changes. What makes them more of an authority on this issue than the company that built the engine and invested millions of dollars in research?

50 weight oil doesn't belong in any street engine. Thick oil reduces horsepower and is detrimental to fuel economy. I don't know of any competition engines that use oil this thick. The heavy weight oil is typically reserved for oil burning engine, or those who insist they need it.

Although the 99-01 TL's came with 5W-30 oil, advise your dealer to read the "Acura Advisor". The suggested service replacement oil for all 99-02 TL's is 5W-20.

Guest

The 2002 TL manual has says "Follow the Severe Conditions Maintenance Schedule if you drive your car MAINLY under one or more of the following conditions:

*Driving less than 5 miles(8 km) per trip or, in freezing temperatures, driving less than 10 miles (16km) per trip.

*Driving in extremely hot [over 90 F (32C)] conditions.

*Extensive idling or long periods of stop-and-go driving.

*Trailer towing, driving with a roof rack, or driving in mountainous conditions.

*Driving on muddy, dusty, or de-iced roads.


I only live 7 miles from work and here the temperature is generally in the 90s.

That and its the first oil change.

lonny

Get the new Pennzoil 5W20. I just bought a case at Pep Boys!

ASU - TLS

will it hurt the engine if you use 10W-30?

lonny

I wouldn't use 10W30. If you can find 5W20, use 5W30 until you can find 5W20