ou sig

I saw that also...seems kinda weird, and I would like to see the full slip. But regardless, I just ordered a set also.

Pure Adrenaline

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Mine went in yesterday. But the V-AFC II doesn't have the capability to display the necessary data to see what kind of a difference it made. For now, I'll have to be content with the fact that it made a difference in other people's cars, and did so as well in mine.

optomos

You have had it installed for some time now. Would you still recommend it? I plan on cleaning out the intake manifold soon & that would be a perfect time to do this as well.

dj5

I have had the spacers installed for about 3 months. The plenum cover is much cooler after the spacer install. I have had no additional oil or coolant usage during the past 3 month. That myth is busted. If you are taking off the intake manifold, that would be the perfect time to install. For $100, it is a good mod and I would recommend it.

ou sig

ya, just like DJ5 said, that is when I put mine on also - when I cleaned out the intake manafold and egr valve holes - perfect time to put them on. I notice much more of a cooler intake manafold when you leave the plastic cover off; that allows much more air to flow around it to keep it cooler - also its alot more of a difference if you are driving kinda fast or dont stop, because once you stop and idle, the aluminum manafold will soak up heat no matter what - but it will quickly cool back down once you start driving and more air flows in and around it.

ndawood

The spacers do make a difference but its hard to say if its cleaning the intake manifold and TB that really give you the difference or if the spacers provide the gains. The intake manifold does run cooler and the gains are there but cleaning everything out probably helps out a bit more!

optomos

Im sold, getting it now. Thx guys

1st timer

how much and where from?

fsttyms1

cleaning out the egr ports shouldnt have an effect on overall performance. at idle it would make a difference but once moving it wouldnt effect teh performance (unless for some reason it was completly cloged and the computer was doing funny stuff cause of the code)

optomos

http://www.outlawengineering.com/hondajframe.html $101 USD with shipping

1st timer

so i guess your coolant should be excellent since most of the heat will be staying in the block.

moahdriven

for those that have this on already...did u guys install the spacers by urself?

Pure Adrenaline

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Yes.

ou sig

yes, the instructions were very good - though it easy w/o instructions

dj5

Yes, it takes about 2-3 hours that included cleaning the intake manifold and throttle body. If you plan on doing it yourself, I highly recommend buying a can of gasket remover to get the old gasket off the throttle bottle.

Instructions were very straight forward and eay to follow.

AcuraTl203

im really thinking about the spacers too , seems like its good gains but at what cost? how much hotter does the engine get and will that damage or cause faster wear? secondly im ok on installs that are minor , would this be something that most people capable of putting in an intake or changing spark plugs can do ? I dont have $150 for the 3 hours labor a shop will charge

Pure Adrenaline

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I personally wouldn't say that it's any harder than doing a CAI installation. It's just more hoses to remove, more parts to take off.

optomos

Its easy. If you have a digi cam you can you can post any problems you might run into & we will help you. Lots of people on her have done this project. While your at it you can clean out your TB to.

fsttyms1

wont cause any faster wear, and if you know how to use a socket wrench you can do this. its probably easier than installing a cai

newbie

i am really interested in doing this mod eventually (once i have the time and money... a 6week old + 2yr old will have to take priority right now), but have always wonder what's involved and what are the steps.

If someone decide to do this themselve, could you try to take a lot of pictures, and possible make it into a DIY page? That will be totally awesome.

TLsu

How much HP can we expect to gain from a spacer kit. I guess you would have to dyno the car to know for sure...but I'm just looking for an estimate.

Pure Adrenaline

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I remember seeing a dyno graph from a member in the CL section that showed a 9 hp increase at the wheels from the spacer kit.

TLsu

Pure Adrenaline: I remember seeing a dyno graph from a member in the CL section that showed a 9 hp increase at the wheels from the spacer kit.



Now that is impressive. Thanks

El pana/TL32

Hey guys, it has been a while.... for anyone interested, I have the thermo block spacer kit, never installed. If anyone is interested, I can consider some negotiation.

My friend installed his, and the diffrence is noticible as stated in the thread, it is a mod that's worth the money and time.

Reason: Planning on changing my TL..... for...... another TL Hit me up if you are interested.

fsttyms1

same steps involved for doing the EGR port cleaning, you have to remove teh upper Intake Manifold. its extremly easy

this is just a quick rundown, some pics in this link
http://www.acurainspired.com/forums...?showtopic=4003
and this link
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116316

Post #4

start off by getting 3 or so cans of SPRAY carb cleaner and acouple small scrub brushes.
if your engine is any thing like the 2nd gen
baisicly you take the plastic engine cover off 4 10-mm bolts. then disconect the battery. they disconect the rubber hose that goes from the air box to the throttle body. continue to unplg any thing that goes to the intake (any plugins hoses) then there are 10 10mm bolts on the top plate (the part that sticks up thru the plastic engine cover) oull that straight up being carefull to not damage teh gasket. then there are like 8 bolts (12mm i think, i cant remember off the top of my head) then you are able to pull the upper part of the intake manifold off (double check before you pull straight up that every thing is disconected) then get your self a nice place to work and start cleaning. (stick a bag over the TB before you hose every thing down like in my pic to be safe)
it sounds like alot but its really easy should take about a hr to do

steadydaddy

I'm interested. send me a message at edhidalgo@juno.com w/ price and pay mode. thanks

El pana/TL32

Hey guys, just to make sure... I'm assuming that the 99 kit is diffrent from the 00 - 03 right? Owtlaw's website makes a distinction at the order page.

Please help clarify, I will be getting an 03 TL-s in the next couple of days, will my current 99 kit fit this set up?

Thanks again!

Pure Adrenaline

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Outlaw first came out with the '99 kit, and everybody (besides the '99 owners) was disappointed because we were told that it didn't fit '00'-'03 models.

I believe the intake manifold design is different, hence the reason they are not interchangeable between the years. You will have to get a new kit, probably.

But really, your best bet is to call up Outlaw.

1st timer

Since most of the heat will stay in the block ,can this affect the oil?

1st timer

I was also wondering the same thing,doers anybody have an explanation?

1st timer

i asked them what they think about a hotter running engine and they replied:



Why would the engine run hotter? Any heat not absorbed by the intake (a minimal amount of the total heat produced) would be transferred to the cooling system and dumped to ambient

fsttyms1

exactly. the engine isnt going to run hotter, you simply making it harder for teh heat to get to specific parts. the heat inthe block WILL be cooled by the cooling system.

Pure Adrenaline

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Thus, the Mugen cooling mods would be a very nice addition to the spacers.

fsttyms1