UW RL

ok.. so, seattle is WET and I was watching one of the bmw films called STAR with the M5 in it. At the end the driver did a 180 to throw the star out of the car.

And i figured that my stock tires don't really have a grip and it's wet, why not try it and see. I went to an empty parking lot and did the same. WOW!!! unbelievable!!

what i did was : accelerate the car to about 15-20 mph and turn the car big time at the same time tabbing the regular brake. After the car turns with the tail trying to fly out, hit the E-brake and release the other brake. wow..

WARNING. DON"T TRY THIS AT HOME. IT REQUIRES A PROFESSIONAL DRIVER TO DO THE STUNTS AND A GOOD COMBO OF CONDITIONS.

chadhova

WOW! COOL! I wish i had the balls, but isn't that sort of stupid though??? Like if your car flips, or something like that?

Acura3200

yup, but it's his car and noone was around

I'd try it if I drove a $500 Corrola or something, but not in my $30K+ car.

UW RL

remember, i didn't do it at a high speed...

chadhova

Yeah but anykind of thing the invoves turns of more than 40 degrees at 30 mph makes me nervous

ElegantTL-S

EH?! haha...i will do that with my new TL-S when i break it in. But how did you do it? THe E-Brake on the TL's are pedal brakes...meaning..when you push down on it...it's engaged until you PRESS IT again..so you can get out of the spin that easy. *shrugs* i dunno....

Wampum

My buddy used to do it all the time in his accord. I have never tried it in my TL but have thought about it. 1ST GEN TL's have lever e-brakes

daverman

I don't think the car will flip--all modern cars are designed to have their tires lose traction (understeer) before the car can flip over.

962.5tl

my friend did that in his neon(pos) the first day we got out of school early last year all the sudden he was driving down the road and he pulled it and turned the wheel .... it was real fun but would neeeeeeverrrrrr do it in my car

3.2 TL

funny you mentioned the e-brake because i was messing with it tonite and i did a 360. It was amazing! if you really want to get out of control, dont tap the brake at all. Just go 15-20mph, turn right/left quickly while hitting the e-brake. That will make your car swing out of control for sure. By the way, I really dont think doing this to your car is that bad. It seems to only affect your tire tread and brakes.

2001TL4KCdude

cool I just did it on mine...

AzNTL

Damn that Car is nasty looking!!! what the hell happened to it? how man times did it roll over?

chadhova

Speaking of ****ed up cars, what ever happened of your situation AZNTL?

UW RL

wow.. the rear spoiler is still intact!!!

bebber

Nice try 2001TL4KCdude, that's not your car. Your sig says your trunk emblems are debaged. The smashed TL in that pic has trunk emblems still attached. I hope whoever was driving that car is okay now.

ElegantTL-S

haha! That car is from copartfinder.com!

2001TL4KCdude

good catch... It was meant for individuals to think twice before doing anything they'll regret..esp if it cost $30,000

chadhova

I think he was just being sarcastic

Bitium

What are you talking about???

I have done 180's 360's reverse 180's. Done in parking lots and street. Is a little hard to do it in the TL since the e-brake is on the floor and not on the center console. Both dry ant wet.

One time I did a 180 going over 70mph on a two-way road to make a u-turn. Dry road of course. A lot of smoke. Not on the TL.

One time I did it with a lot of traffic in a two-way road. Traffic behind me and in the oncoming lane. It came out so sweet. Plus it was a very tight spot. Very precise. Not on TL either.

ElegantTL-S

I WANNA DO THAT! I think it'll take more skill to do it on the TL..cause you'll need VEERY fast response to push in the e brake over and over...like pumping it so you won't keep it in the engaged position.....hehe. I'm gonna do that in a empty parking lot and film it for fun. :p :p I'm just an "insane" person.

Unless, since I don't own the car yet. If you press it lightly, does the e brake engage already? or does it have to "click" for it to engage?

stevebo

I think that the only real danger to car or body at 25mph or less and trying to slide is hitting something. A flat large parking lot ought to be OK.

UW RL

that's exactly what i thought

pianoman41

Actually, you can potentially do some damage to the ABS system on the car if this is done repeatedly. The emergency brake was the old term for a mechanical brake to be used in the event something catastrophic happened to the hydraulic one. Back in the 50s and 60s that was a real possibility but other than slicing a brake line completely open, today's hydraulic brake systems are almost bulletproof.

That being said, today's "e-brakes" are actually referred to now as "parking brakes." The primary function of the mechanical brake now is to hold the car when parked in the event of a transmission failure (auto) or if the owner accidentally forgets to leave the car in gear (manual). From a manufacturing standpoint they are designed to be employed only when the car is stationary. Think about it--if it really was to be an "emergency" braking system, it should activate the front brakes as that's where most of the braking is done and as we all know from doing e-brake 180s, braking just the rear wheels is notoriously dangerous from a control standpoint (assuming your intention was to quickly stop the car in a straight line--as you would in a brake emergency).

So when you crank on the e-brake while the car is in motion, the lack of drivetrain and weight on the rear wheels causes them to lock up almost immediately, which gives you the easy access to the 180s, 270s, and 360s. However, the hydraulic ABS system is not tied into the mechanical e-brake system (by traditional "emergency brake" design, the systems have to be completely separate from each other so that if one fails, all the components of the other still work). When the ABS system detects lockup on the rear wheels, it does what it is supposed to do and starts quickly pumping the rear brakes to try and stop the lockup. With no rolling resistance, the ABS system will do continuous pumping, trying to "unlock" the rear tires. Here's the problem: the hydraulic pressure, normally very high from your foot being jammed on the brake pedal, is not under pressure at all. The ABS system is being activated under conditions it was not designed for. You should hear the ABS "buzz" from under the hood as it fights to get the rear wheels rolling again. Repeated use of the ABS controller under these conditions can lead to problems with the ABS system. Single channel and dual channel ABS systems are worse because they activate on all tires regardless of which one is actually locked up. Luckily, the TL system is a 3/4 channel system and will only work on the tires locked up (rear axle).

Now I'm not saying doing 180s with the e-brake *will* damage the ABS system. I'm saying it *could* be detrimental to the ABS components and I have seen cars have trouble with it (not Hondas) as a result of this type of activity. Just a caution, that's all.

NighthawkBlack

Your spoiler still looks like it is in good shape. How much do youwant for it?