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Old 03-27-2002, 11:54 AM
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what's the difference between the inspire and saber?
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yeah....i would like to know too~
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cosmetically, the wheels and the grill are different....I'm not sure about the interior, the engine, options b/c I can't read Japanese.
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I believe the Inspire is the highest model. and the Saber is the lower model with two engines choices. 3.2 and 2.5. Maybe the Inspire is the Type S model. I dunno, I'm just guessing here. But I know for sure the Inspire is a higher model.
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http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/inspire/

http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/saber/
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..just checked out the Japanese Honda site and from what I've seen, both Saber and Inspire base models come with cloth interior, 16x6.5 wheels, and a 2.5 L V6. The Type S for both come with leather, 17x6.5 wheels, and the 3.2 L V6.
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I think one of our Japanese members posted once that they are basically the same (minor cosmetic differences) and just sold by different Honda dealer tiers.
Old 03-27-2002, 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by IntegraVT
I think one of our Japanese members posted once that they are basically the same (minor cosmetic differences) and just sold by different Honda dealer tiers.
That's true!
Both INSPIRE/SABER has choice for 2.5 or 3.2 Type-S
Just cosmetic differences, like grille, tail lights, wheels, and badge on the back.
INSPIRE


SABER
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the H badge sure cheapens(sp?) the look of the car. :p
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i think they look pretty cool. what is that little badge on the back pillar behind the windows?
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i beileve they are the HONDA OF AMERICA badge with an american flag and an eagle...
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Originally posted by lilboykorea
i beileve they are the HONDA OF AMERICA badge with an american flag and an eagle...
Yes....look something like this on the bottom...
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does anyone know what out vtec engine is called , for example integra gsr = b16, prelude = h22a 3.2tl = ???
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I think it's J32a2 the last time i checked
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Originally posted by Dvs rice
does anyone know what out vtec engine is called , for example integra gsr = b16, prelude = h22a 3.2tl = ???
J32A I think.... and J25A for 2.5L
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Originally posted by Dvs rice
does anyone know what out vtec engine is called , for example integra gsr = b16, prelude = h22a 3.2tl = ???
TL Premium = J32A1

TL Type S = J32A2
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WAT DA HECK? damn! two replies ahead of me already? damn, i must type SLOW! :p
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Originally posted by lilboykorea
i beileve they are the HONDA OF AMERICA badge with an american flag and an eagle...
is there somewhere we can get that little badge? and the side marker light? why didn't the us tl's get a side marker light, isn't it made in the same factory as the inspire?
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If you want the side marker lights?? be ready to cut holes in your front fenders?? If you have no problem with that I carry them on my site along with the "Honda of America" side emblems.
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Originally posted by valuetl
If you want the side marker lights?? be ready to cut holes in your front fenders?? If you have no problem with that I carry them on my site along with the "Honda of America" side emblems.
sound good to me.. do you have a close up picutre?
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i bought mY BLUE SIDE MARKERS FROM NOPI HERE IN ATLANTA....THEY LOOK PRETTY TIGHT ON THE AGEAN BLUE PEARL COLOR...THE GUY SAID HE COULDN'T WIRE THEM TO STAY ON ALL THE TIME & BLINKED TOO,BECAUSE OF THE WAY OUR LIGHTS ARE WIRED, SO ELECTED TO JUST HAVE THEM BLINK
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Originally posted by bluedragon
i bought mY BLUE SIDE MARKERS FROM NOPI HERE IN ATLANTA....THEY LOOK PRETTY TIGHT ON THE AGEAN BLUE PEARL COLOR...THE GUY SAID HE COULDN'T WIRE THEM TO STAY ON ALL THE TIME & BLINKED TOO,BECAUSE OF THE WAY OUR LIGHTS ARE WIRED, SO ELECTED TO JUST HAVE THEM BLINK
That's soooo bullsh!t! You can have it wired up to stay on and blink..or just blink. it's up to you.
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Originally posted by valuetl
If you want the side marker lights?? be ready to cut holes in your front fenders?? If you have no problem with that I carry them on my site along with the "Honda of America" side emblems.
No pics though

Do they come with instructions, specifically what cables to tap into?
Old 03-28-2002, 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by lilboykorea
i beileve they are the HONDA OF AMERICA badge with an american flag and an eagle...
But if its only sold in the East, why have an American symbol on it ??
Old 03-28-2002, 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by Outlook


But if its only sold in the East, why have an American symbol on it ??
It's weird...the TL's are made here and imported to Japan. Hence "Honda of America"
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is there a way where we can bring the side panels from japan so we don't have to drill on our cars for the side markers?
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Think about the cost of 2 new front fenders compared to having a body shop cut the holes for the light. The pics posted on the first page of this thread have pics of the sidemarker lights. To hook them up they have a harness and plug for $5 that runs down to the turn signals and tags into it.
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grass is always greener on the other side :-)

i live in japan and have the '99 saber 3.2v (they call it "v" here not "TL"). i hate the side markers and wish i could get rid of them. they're stock yellow. going to "autobacs" (auto store) this weekend to see if i can pick up some clear's for the side. that "honda of america" badge blows too. so damn cheasy. that bade is on the shift lever too for the 3.2v's and 2.5v's but the type s has the special "type s" badge on the shift lever. i thought about removing it but wanted to preserve my car's resale value.

the other posts were pretty much right. the only three main things (besides the "inspire"/"saber" badge) different between the inspire and saber are the front grill, rims and tail light. i personally like the saber front grill and rims but prefer the stock clear taillight on the inspire. the shorter lettering was also a plus. besides, the old accords used to be called "inspires" here too so i wanted something that distinguished my car from an old accord.

the saber/inspire cars are NOT popular in japan. it's considered a third-tier car. people tend to opt for its competitors, especially nissan's 4-door skyline, toyota's mark II and chaser, and subaru's impressa (can u believe subaru's sell well here???? i think they look like **** but the impressa actually hauls some major ass). but i know better (as does everyone else here) that the inspire/saber rocks. i bought my '99 saber 3.2v used with 10,000 kilos (6,000 miles) out the door for 2.2 million yen (US$17k). no way in hell you can purchase any of the competitors with the same/similar features at that price.

unfortunately, because it's not a popular car in japan, not much aftermkt stuff for it. people don't buy inspires/sabers here in japan as enthusiast cars. buyers tend to be conservative, 30-40 yr. old company employees.
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Originally posted by valuetl
Think about the cost of 2 new front fenders compared to having a body shop cut the holes for the light. The pics posted on the first page of this thread have pics of the sidemarker lights. To hook them up they have a harness and plug for $5 that runs down to the turn signals and tags into it.
I've got that right Mike. I rather buy something else from Japan for that kind of $$ and drill the holes myself on my fender.
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Originally posted by helvering
grass is always greener on the other side :-)

i live in japan and have the '99 saber 3.2v (they call it "v" here not "TL"). i hate the side markers and wish i could get rid of them. they're stock yellow. going to "autobacs" (auto store) this weekend to see if i can pick up some clear's for the side. that "honda of america" badge blows too. so damn cheasy. that bade is on the shift lever too for the 3.2v's and 2.5v's but the type s has the special "type s" badge on the shift lever. i thought about removing it but wanted to preserve my car's resale value.

the other posts were pretty much right. the only three main things (besides the "inspire"/"saber" badge) different between the inspire and saber are the front grill, rims and tail light. i personally like the saber front grill and rims but prefer the stock clear taillight on the inspire. the shorter lettering was also a plus. besides, the old accords used to be called "inspires" here too so i wanted something that distinguished my car from an old accord.

the saber/inspire cars are NOT popular in japan. it's considered a third-tier car. people tend to opt for its competitors, especially nissan's 4-door skyline, toyota's mark II and chaser, and subaru's impressa (can u believe subaru's sell well here???? i think they look like **** but the impressa actually hauls some major ass). but i know better (as does everyone else here) that the inspire/saber rocks. i bought my '99 saber 3.2v used with 10,000 kilos (6,000 miles) out the door for 2.2 million yen (US$17k). no way in hell you can purchase any of the competitors with the same/similar features at that price.

unfortunately, because it's not a popular car in japan, not much aftermkt stuff for it. people don't buy inspires/sabers here in japan as enthusiast cars. buyers tend to be conservative, 30-40 yr. old company employees.
cool!! i want to live in japan! I bet the life over there is fun! hehe. also, I heard autobacs is opening a store here in the US. is it true? I also kinda figured the saber/inspire isn't popular, hehe....
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Originally posted by helvering
unfortunately, because it's not a popular car in japan, not much aftermkt stuff for it. people don't buy inspires/sabers here in japan as enthusiast cars. buyers tend to be conservative, 30-40 yr. old company employees.
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Really??? That's funny. Anyways, welcome to the club.

Maybe we should exchange some parts each other.
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yeah maybe you can tells how much all the jdm stuff cost over there and we can figure a way to bring them over here.
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Really he is right!! The tl is not a hotbed if aftermarket parts. JUST 4 doors look what other options you have in Japan! :wow: Toyota, Nissan, Suburu, both make twin turbo 4 doors and RWD that run circles around out poor TL's. I'm hoping the low riders adapt our cars sometime. This is the only way to increase our parts availability. The market now has changed more towards vans no so there isn't much out to pick from. Look even Mugen didn't come out with any parts support for the Type-S. I was really surprised about that. The new TEG and vans.
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well i think buy 2 new fenders is a good idea, for the fact that people screw up and that your fender at least if you can bring one from japan pre drilled it would be safer thats all.
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