Honda Transmission plant
09-11-2004 | 11:57 AM
#41
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From: South Florida
Originally Posted by That Girl
The hurrican is teetering on 5 scale hurricane ,the hurricane force winds are to be felt in a 60 mile radius ( you live 25 miles inland) The path of Ivan is undetermined because not knowing what the high pressure from the east and the low pressure from the south are going to do ..well again it's speculation on the forecasters part,however we have had 2 hurricane's thus far this month and one shortly before those..
My house was built late 2001 ,all block 5/8 plywood on roof and built to code for florida hurricane standards . Block homes were crumbled in Greneda .... hurricane code in fla is 100 mph winds.. I don't think mine could withstand a catergory 4 hurricane and gosh i'd hate to not make it put in time if I did decide to leave at last minute.
Frances has done alot of damage ,I lost 2 big trees in my yard. My brother-in-law's restaraunt KC Crumps on the Homosassa ,which was an Historical landmark ;burnt to the ground thursday night ,due to effects from hurricane frances,I amnot taking any chances ..best wishe's to you and your family.
My house was built late 2001 ,all block 5/8 plywood on roof and built to code for florida hurricane standards . Block homes were crumbled in Greneda .... hurricane code in fla is 100 mph winds.. I don't think mine could withstand a catergory 4 hurricane and gosh i'd hate to not make it put in time if I did decide to leave at last minute.
Frances has done alot of damage ,I lost 2 big trees in my yard. My brother-in-law's restaraunt KC Crumps on the Homosassa ,which was an Historical landmark ;burnt to the ground thursday night ,due to effects from hurricane frances,I amnot taking any chances ..best wishe's to you and your family.
09-11-2004 | 12:44 PM
#42
Instructor
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From: Georgia
It's obvious what is happening here. American phlisophy has take over this plant. The accountants are making transmissons, and quality and the customer is secondary. These transmissions have multiple problems, and some may have been engineered in to limit service life. This mindset hit the big three hard in the 70's and 80's. It has crept into Honda. Acura/Honda is going to have to win back a lot of customers, and quailty will not be there friend.
03-30-2008 | 01:02 AM
#43
5th Gear
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From: Cal
That Girl's estimates for transmission failure might be too low.
Just a follow up on this transmission failure thread. Consumer Reports April 2007 stated on page 24 that
"nearly a quarter of owners of the 2001 Acura CL reported a bad transmission problem..."
But it gets worse. The questionnaire is worded, "if you had any problems with your car in the past 12 months that you considered serious..."
If nearly A QUARTER of owners reported transmission problems in the past 12 months before the questionnaire, over 24 months, the number of owners experiencing transmission problems could be NEARLY 50%. Most owners keep a car more than 24 months unless the transmission or something else breaks too often.
That Girl might have estimated too low.
Transmission failures keep going and going...
"nearly a quarter of owners of the 2001 Acura CL reported a bad transmission problem..."
But it gets worse. The questionnaire is worded, "if you had any problems with your car in the past 12 months that you considered serious..."
If nearly A QUARTER of owners reported transmission problems in the past 12 months before the questionnaire, over 24 months, the number of owners experiencing transmission problems could be NEARLY 50%. Most owners keep a car more than 24 months unless the transmission or something else breaks too often.
That Girl might have estimated too low.
Transmission failures keep going and going...
04-10-2008 | 02:39 AM
#45
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I have been searching and searching this forum for an answer, and haven't found it, is there a number or percentage that shows the failure rate? Right now I am on transmission number 3 and looking like I will need tranny number 4 very soon!
Has anyone gotten solid estimates of the true failure rate of these transmissions? Its crazy how I did so much research BEFORE buying the car in 2005/2006, looking through Consumer Reports used car issues, with mostly ALL red dots, surely NO BLACK DOTS (meaning a failure in something). Now fast forward to now and look in a the issue last month, 2002 & 2003 Acura TL, BLACK DOT for major transmission problems! Talk about frustrating!
Now.... do we have any recourse, since the resale value of my car is dropping by HUGE amounts on a daily basis??? The resale value difference between 2003 and 2004 is astronomical compared to the value change in 2004 to 2005, or 2005 to 2006, etc. Aren't these cars supposed to hold their value???
Has anyone gotten solid estimates of the true failure rate of these transmissions? Its crazy how I did so much research BEFORE buying the car in 2005/2006, looking through Consumer Reports used car issues, with mostly ALL red dots, surely NO BLACK DOTS (meaning a failure in something). Now fast forward to now and look in a the issue last month, 2002 & 2003 Acura TL, BLACK DOT for major transmission problems! Talk about frustrating!
Now.... do we have any recourse, since the resale value of my car is dropping by HUGE amounts on a daily basis??? The resale value difference between 2003 and 2004 is astronomical compared to the value change in 2004 to 2005, or 2005 to 2006, etc. Aren't these cars supposed to hold their value???
04-10-2008 | 07:28 AM
#46
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From: Appleton WI
Originally Posted by bcar473
I have been searching and searching this forum for an answer, and haven't found it, is there a number or percentage that shows the failure rate? Right now I am on transmission number 3 and looking like I will need tranny number 4 very soon!
Has anyone gotten solid estimates of the true failure rate of these transmissions? Its crazy how I did so much research BEFORE buying the car in 2005/2006, looking through Consumer Reports used car issues, with mostly ALL red dots, surely NO BLACK DOTS (meaning a failure in something). Now fast forward to now and look in a the issue last month, 2002 & 2003 Acura TL, BLACK DOT for major transmission problems! Talk about frustrating!
Now.... do we have any recourse, since the resale value of my car is dropping by HUGE amounts on a daily basis??? The resale value difference between 2003 and 2004 is astronomical compared to the value change in 2004 to 2005, or 2005 to 2006, etc. Aren't these cars supposed to hold their value???
Has anyone gotten solid estimates of the true failure rate of these transmissions? Its crazy how I did so much research BEFORE buying the car in 2005/2006, looking through Consumer Reports used car issues, with mostly ALL red dots, surely NO BLACK DOTS (meaning a failure in something). Now fast forward to now and look in a the issue last month, 2002 & 2003 Acura TL, BLACK DOT for major transmission problems! Talk about frustrating!
Now.... do we have any recourse, since the resale value of my car is dropping by HUGE amounts on a daily basis??? The resale value difference between 2003 and 2004 is astronomical compared to the value change in 2004 to 2005, or 2005 to 2006, etc. Aren't these cars supposed to hold their value???
04-10-2008 | 10:27 AM
#47
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From: Windsor, ON, Canada
Well ... I'm on my original transmission ... 138 000km (~86,000 miles) and feels fine. I would think the failure rate is around ~3% right now ... which is horrible. Watch the numbers grow as time goes on.
04-10-2008 | 10:48 AM
#48
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derrick- why did you call upon the azinr trans curse?
Proclaiming it works great at 86k miles is begging for a failure-
just ask phee, who was jazzed about his 99 for a month- saying how it was perfect- then trans died- electrical died- etc etc
Overall the numbers may be low as a percentage of america- and overall azine numbers will be higher becasue this is a tech help forum.
Enter TL + problems in a search engine and it brings you to the azine trans thread!
Proclaiming it works great at 86k miles is begging for a failure-
just ask phee, who was jazzed about his 99 for a month- saying how it was perfect- then trans died- electrical died- etc etc
Overall the numbers may be low as a percentage of america- and overall azine numbers will be higher becasue this is a tech help forum.
Enter TL + problems in a search engine and it brings you to the azine trans thread!
04-10-2008 | 11:42 AM
#49
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
that is also the reason honda is one of the only car manufactures (other than toyota) to make impressive $$ gains every year and not loose mone like the big 3 here in the us
04-10-2008 | 11:47 AM
#50
GO DAWGS!! SICK'EM!!
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From: UGA DAWGS COUNTRY
its seems like it is for all the SHITTY TRANNY THAT MADE gone bad
And that is why its making all this SHITTY TRANNY and provide jobs.
I got no problem producing jobs but i got problem with SHITTY TRANNY'S HONDA MAKES
And that is why its making all this SHITTY TRANNY and provide jobs.
I got no problem producing jobs but i got problem with SHITTY TRANNY'S HONDA MAKES
04-10-2008 | 06:15 PM
#55
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
There is no percentage. Its pretty much a good bet that they all could suffer from it. There have been some that haven't. In feb of 05 it appears the latest round of updates to the trans have extended the life of them. Unfortunately there is NO recourse. Also i dont know how you didnt come across this problem sooner. It was well known by 2001. they have had a black dot for a year or 2 at least now in CR
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