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Old 07-10-2007, 01:54 AM
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Honda engine durability

I have had my type-s for 7 months now with no issues except for warped brakes. I do run my car hard on occasion when racing or just having fun. My question is reguarding our engine durability. I havent owned the car long enough to know how these motors withstand abuse. I am also a maintience freak and always change the oil at its schedualed time with quality oil. (currently running 5w20 amsoil). Anything I should be concerned about with running the car hard on occasion?

BTW, this is my first honda motor, my last car was a maxima and was pretty much a tank.
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200,000 no sweat and running strong- and they show little wear inside the cylinder walls
Change the timing belt and water pump at 105 and be set
Oil analysis $23 www.blackstone_ labs.com
will tell you how the engine is and
how long your oil changes can go between

5-30 oil for gen 2 cars is suggested

Our cars like to be run hard and it keeps things clean inside.
See the thread Seafoamed the Ol TL
and consider NGK Iridium spark plugs if over 50k miles on your car now

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200,000 no sweat and running strong- and they show little wear inside the cylinder walls
Change the timing belt and water pump at 105 and be set
Oil analysis $23 www.blackstone_ labs.com
will tell you how the engine is and
how long your oil changes can go between

5-30 oil for gen 2 cars is suggested

Our cars like to be run hard and it keeps things clean inside.
See the thread Seafoamed the Ol TL
and consider NGK Iridium spark plugs if over 50k miles on your car now

For awesome rotors that dont warp www.racingbrake.com
available thru acurazine vendor MrHeelToe www.heeltoeauto.com

I am also a forum guru so I have already seafoamed the car and replaced the spark plugs with the iridiums. For the rotors I went with EBC dimpled and slotted in the front and stillen crossdrilled in the rear with green stuff all the way around.

But good to hear about the little wear on the engine. I thought for 02-03 they suggested 5w-20. I am mistaken I will put in 5w-30 in the next change.
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cant go wrong with the ebc... stops my car sooo well... yea honda engines are second to none
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I ran my car very hard, it idled all day long for work and at 200k when i pulled it out it ran better than the day i bought it. The original cross hatching was still in the cyl. The motor is the very last thing i would worry about on a honda. Oh and the oil changes were all 8k to 15k intervals
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200,000 no sweat and running strong- and they show little wear inside the cylinder walls
Change the timing belt and water pump at 105 and be set
Oil analysis $23 www.blackstone_ labs.com
will tell you how the engine is and
how long your oil changes can go between

5-30 oil for gen 2 cars is suggested
I have to disagree, only because in the owners manual it says "5W-20 oil is formulated for year-round protection of you Acura, to improve cold weather starting, and to help your engine use less fuel. If 5W-20 oil is not available, a 5W-30 oil may be used. However, it should be replaced with 5W-20 at the next oil change." I drive an 02 TL-S and it even says 5W-20 on the oil cap, I think the older (99-01) TL's where using the 5W-30 but the newer ones use the 5W-20 for sure.
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the whole logic behind 5-20 was for Acura to improve a government madated standard- average - CAFE- fuel economy of all the cars they make
So they put a less friction oil in to increase a fuel economy reading-
not to make the car run better or last longer.

The first number is for cold weather, the second is measured at 100 degrees celcius
or 212 american- think boiling point of water, and the engine internal temp is higher than that.

Take a read on penzoil.com
Myths about Synthetic Oil and understand
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^^ The cap on my 99 says 5w-20 as well
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I have to disagree, only because in the owners manual it says "5W-20 oil is formulated for year-round protection of you Acura, to improve cold weather starting, and to help your engine use less fuel. If 5W-20 oil is not available, a 5W-30 oil may be used. However, it should be replaced with 5W-20 at the next oil change." I drive an 02 TL-S and it even says 5W-20 on the oil cap, I think the older (99-01) TL's where using the 5W-30 but the newer ones use the 5W-20 for sure.
Honda only went with the 5w20 to meet CAFE standards. there is nothing wrong with 5w30, nor will it give you worse mileage or hurt your engine
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^^ The cap on my 99 says 5w-20 as well
Id have to say its not original or your car has a ULEV rating and thats how the attempted to get that rating. Otherwise ALL 99-01s had 5w30
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HMM maybe I'll start using that from now on.
What would be better for warmer temps, as I am down in FL?

The point is, Honda engines love taking a beating. They are made for high RPMs and will last you a long long time if you take care of it.
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Honda only went with the 5w20 to meet CAFE standards. there is nothing wrong with 5w30, nor will it give you worse mileage or hurt your engine
if they use it to meet fuel econmy standards wouldnt useing it result in better milage, or is the difference next to nill?
oh and honda engines are built! my freind has a 96 accord with 416k miles on it, and its still runnin strong!
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Originally Posted by orgnlprankster7
if they use it to meet fuel econmy standards wouldnt useing it result in better milage, or is the difference next to nill?
oh and honda engines are built! my freind has a 96 accord with 416k miles on it, and its still runnin strong!
you would se very very little. CAFE= Corporate Average Fuel Economy. they use it over ALL the cars. 1 alone isnt going to see anything. Ive switched back and forth and never saw a difference. I stick with 5w30
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
you would se very very little. CAFE= Corporate Average Fuel Economy. they use it over ALL the cars. 1 alone isnt going to see anything. Ive switched back and forth and never saw a difference. I stick with 5w30
Good to know that either is fine, I'll just go with what my Owners Manual and oil cap tells me
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Lets just suppose the oil cap has been replaced at some point in time- the rubber seal does wear out- or someone puts on a custom cap and has to buy a replacement when they sell the car or........

Gen 2 5W-30 unless you live in far north canada and then 0 weight comes into discussion
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Originally Posted by orgnlprankster7
if they use it to meet fuel econmy standards wouldnt useing it result in better milage, or is the difference next to nill?
oh and honda engines are built! my freind has a 96 accord with 416k miles on it, and its still runnin strong!
I've had 1 Honda and 4 Acuras and have never had any engine issues, really only the tranny on my 99 and 02 Tls. The dealership I take my car to has a 96 Integra with 610k original miles and is still in great shape. These engines will last a long time and take quite a bit of abuse, that's why I love Hondas and Acuras, only cars that can take my driving.
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Originally Posted by 02TLSfan
I've had 1 Honda and 4 Acuras and have never had any engine issues, really only the tranny on my 99 and 02 Tls. The dealership I take my car to has a 96 Integra with 610k original miles and is still in great shape. These engines will last a long time and take quite a bit of abuse, that's why I love Hondas and Acuras, only cars that can take my driving.
yea i think the rest of the car will fall apart and go through 6 trannys before the engine even starts to wear. thought i have seen the opsite when not taken car of, my other frind has a 00 accord 4cyl (yes almost all my freinds have accords) with 110 on the clock and hes burning oil like a mother
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