Help me decide what to do. 02 TL-S transmission toast

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Old 08-23-2011, 04:06 PM
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Help me decide what to do. 02 TL-S transmission toast

So my 02 TL-S w/ 106K miles just toasted its transmission.
Big surprise, right?

I don't think it is worth $4k for a rebuilt transmission from a shop. Most often rebuilt transmissions do not last long compared to factory transmission that don't have know defects.

I am thinking about selling the car for whatever I can get for it and moving on to something else.

What have others done in this situation?
Are there any other transmission that will bolt right into the car without know defects?
How much do you think I can get for it with a bad transmission?

What would you do?
Old 08-23-2011, 04:19 PM
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You'll be lucky to get anything if you try to sell with a bad transmission, car is pretty much worthless.

A decent rebuild could range from 1200-2000.
With your mileage its due for new T-belt and Waterpump job.

You would probably have to pay someone to get rid of your car lol.

At least fix the trans and sell or trade worth from 3-4k. I'm in the same situation, probably just going to end up getting a rebuilt trans and driving for another yr before upgrading.

Good luck to you.
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At this point I think it would be worth it to get timing belt, water pump, valve job. The honda odyssey trans is a direct bolt on. May be found cheap. At least that would make the car sellable. As long as nothing else major is wrong with the car.
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I would fix it and keep her running - that is what I will do if/when mine dies 180k so far. there is nothing else out there really that I would want under $15k or $20k that has all of the features our TL has so that is A LOT more than the $2-$5k you can spend and make yours last
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retail price of rebuilds average $1800-2500 depending on how bad its trashed inside and what the shop labor rate is

can you buy another car as nice as your TL for 3 grand?
while getting almost nothing from selling it as is for parts- engine runs excellent?

the oddysey trans swap is getting popular, lots of those get crashed early in their life!
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Does the odyssey transmission not have the same defects? What years bolt right into it?
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6 spd swap, that is all.
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Originally Posted by alexh1266
You would probably have to pay someone to get rid of your car lol.

At least fix the trans and sell or trade worth from 3-4k.
In California with only 106, I bet that's worth over 6k with a new trans.
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Originally Posted by farmdevil
In California with only 106, I bet that's worth over 6k with a new trans.
Maybe at a used dealer lot. But private party I doubt it. I also didnt notice it was an 02 type s. def not worth as much on a trade.

If the potential buyer has any clue about the tranny plagues and maintenance that needs to be done they would probably steer clear away from it. Assuming they know about these cars though, if they don't then oh well.
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Get Odessy transmission swap and keep the car. These cars are very reliable and worth keeping. I have had mine since new (7 years) just done oil change, ATF change, tires and brakes. That's it. My BMW 135i for a year and have had replaced fuel pump twice, engine failure twice, electrical failure (no power), gearbox problems (sometimes will not shift into 3rd gear until car is left idle for a bit). Not to mention already in need of new runflat tires at about 1000$. And it's not just BMW, all new cars are poorly built. Car and drivers Hyundai sonata for example. Or camry's with rattling interior and major transmission problem.

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Originally Posted by alexh1266
Maybe at a used dealer lot. But private party I doubt it. I also didnt notice it was an 02 type s. def not worth as much on a trade.

If the potential buyer has any clue about the tranny plagues and maintenance that needs to be done they would probably steer clear away from it. Assuming they know about these cars though, if they don't then oh well.
I just checked KBB and mine (with 174,000 miles) is worth $5,735 to a private party here in Iowa in good condition. With 106,000 miles, here in Iowa it is allegedly worth $7,935.

I guess I got confused and the OP isn't the one who was from CA, but in CA I presume the price is quite a bit higher. I know the KBB figures are higher than what I expected but they are kinda the source that people go to when looking to buy. Keep in mind that transmission issues are factored into that price, since it represents what people are willing to pay. Perhaps that is because they are il-informed but, in any case, it seems that people are willing to pay much more than the cost of a tranny. Of course without a tranny, that value still goes down to nearly nothing because it would be hard to offload to anybody except a dealer.
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Originally Posted by pickler
And it's not just BMW, all new cars are poorly built. Car and drivers Hyundai sonata for example. Or camry's with rattling interior and major transmission problem.
I agree - as much as I would like a new or even newer car I cant justify doing that with all the issues nearly all new cars seem to have. no matter the make or cost. the TL has been near perfect so I will milk it as long as it makes since
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Originally Posted by my.daily'tl'
The honda odyssey trans is a direct bolt on.
If I were to contact a local wreckers to see if they had an Oddesy transmission for my 1999 3.2 TL (2g), what model years of Oddesy will have a transmission that will fit my vehicle as a drop-in replacement? If I went this route, I'd like to avoid upgrades (like 6 speed) that might need additional parts or work to fit. TIA.
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call them and ask what will fit! they are the cross over experts
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Fix it... 6spd swap it or oddy trans..
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Good info on this thread. This'll get things going in the right direction.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...hlight=Odyssey
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Am i missing something? The Odyssey transmission has the same issues right? You talking about a newer Odyssey transmission where they address the defect?

I have decided it is not worth getting a rebuilt because most likely the shop will not be able to fix the defect and I wouldn't be able to count on it working for 100K miles.

I like the idea of a low mileage Odyssey transmission if they addressed the known defect in the newer ones.
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Originally Posted by my.daily'tl'
Good info on this thread. This'll get things going in the right direction.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...hlight=Odyssey
It sounds like an accord trans would be better according to this thread??
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Fix it and keep it
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Originally Posted by farmdevil
I just checked KBB and mine (with 174,000 miles) is worth $5,735 to a private party here in Iowa in good condition. With 106,000 miles, here in Iowa it is allegedly worth $7,935.

I guess I got confused and the OP isn't the one who was from CA, but in CA I presume the price is quite a bit higher. I know the KBB figures are higher than what I expected but they are kinda the source that people go to when looking to buy. Keep in mind that transmission issues are factored into that price, since it represents what people are willing to pay. Perhaps that is because they are il-informed but, in any case, it seems that people are willing to pay much more than the cost of a tranny. Of course without a tranny, that value still goes down to nearly nothing because it would be hard to offload to anybody except a dealer.
I concur, but I'm a little biased towards my 00 tl-p prices

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Fix it and keep it


Originally Posted by pickler
My BMW 135i for a year and have had replaced fuel pump twice, engine failure twice, electrical failure (no power), gearbox problems (sometimes will not shift into 3rd gear until car is left idle for a bit). Not to mention already in need of new runflat tires at about 1000$. And it's not just BMW, all new cars are poorly built. Car and drivers Hyundai sonata for example. Or camry's with rattling interior and major transmission problem.
Sorry to hear about the 1 series, I thought BMW was all about quality, I had no idea it could get this bad. Its a little expected from Hyundai no? And shame on Toyota I also had no idea a Camry could be this bad. When i hear camry i compare to accord, and when i hear accord i compare to TL quality wise. But this changes my view on things a little :endrant:
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