Has anyone done a 6spd TL-p?

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Old 09-14-2007, 10:49 PM
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See, I can live with CELs as long as everything runs right. No inspections down here in FL.
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thats awesome^^
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Originally Posted by KSuchdeve
See, I can live with CELs as long as everything runs right. No inspections down here in FL.
But why would you want to? You wouild never know if something else went wrong since the light is always on!
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I agree CELs are not good but i'm a little short on funds so i was trying to get the cheapest alternative without going back to the auto tranny. when i save more money i most definitely go with the whole CLs swap. I tried hunting down parts and it seems to cost 2500 in parts without the tranny. then there's the shop/mechanic that i'll have to pay (probably $800) to get the job done. Totalling clost to $4500 which is a little out of my budget. I will eventually do the full and i'll post when i have some pics!! Thanks everyone!! If there are any other suggestion on where to get parts to complete this project around $3000 including labor and tranny it would be most appreciated!! Thanks again!!
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do you already have a TL-s....
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dooood...if i get a manual, my mom will stop driving my car. sweeeet
Old 09-16-2007, 10:44 PM
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dooood...if i get a manual, my mom will stop driving my car. sweeeet
I still need a six speed. The parts for the CL-S aren't that hard to find, they are just somewhat pricey. Just keep your ears to the ground gentlemen.

In other news, any updates on the module Richie?
Old 09-16-2007, 10:55 PM
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I'd like to just get a new 6spd with the LSD and get a module made to get it to work with my engine, then all the various interior parts. It (my engine) still has a lot of life left and I'm not ready to spend the money on the full swap.
Old 09-17-2007, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by dro_15
do you already have a TL-s....
I actually only have base TL. It uses the J32A1 engine. is that a problem when it comes to the swap? I was told that the J32A1 and A2 are the same except for the hp output.
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OK...dumbass question for the day...What's the benefit of getting the LSD?
Old 09-17-2007, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by poohlikeshunny
OK...dumbass question for the day...What's the benefit of getting the LSD?
Performance. Not only does it help with launches off the line by regulating the amount of wheelspin but it also helps with handling by the same principle of limiting wheelspin. On an open or regular differential, if one wheel has 0 traction, then it will get most of the power and keep on spinning. A LSD in that case would transfer more power to the wheel with more traction. USUALLY while in a turn, the outside wheel has more traction, so the LSD will transfer more power to the outside wheel, and that causes it to turn tighter.

Not dumb at all... differentials are pretty complex. But LSDs are usually well worth the extra green when it comes down to it, especially if you are a driving enthusiast. Want a more reliable car, as the OP said? You don't really need it, Accords and base Civics don't have them. The 6MT TL, Civic Si, S2000 and NSX all have an LSD standard.... see a pattern?
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ah ha...well sounds like I prolly don't need it then...this whole possibility of the 6mt from an accord without having to use the harness is quite the exciting prospect, much cheaper too...

thanx costco!!!
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Wikipedia:
The main advantage of a limited slip differential is found by considering the case of a standard (or "open") differential where one wheel has no contact with the ground at all. In such a case, the contacting wheel will remain stationary, and the non-contacting wheel will rotate freely– the torque transmitted will be equal at both wheels, but will not exceed the threshold of torque needed to move the vehicle, thus the vehicle will remain stationary. In everyday use on typical roads, such a situation is very unlikely, and so a normal differential suffices. For more demanding use however, such as driving off-road, or for high performance vehicles, such a state of affairs is undesirable, and the LSD can be employed to deal with it. By limiting the velocity difference between a pair of driven wheels, useful torque can be transmitted as long as there is some friction available on at least one of the wheels.

so less wheelspin and more even torque? that's what i've always been told


EDIT: guess i should read the whole thread before replying cuz i keep answering stuff thats been answered ll
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Originally Posted by poohlikeshunny
ah ha...well sounds like I prolly don't need it then...this whole possibility of the 6mt from an accord without having to use the harness is quite the exciting prospect, much cheaper too...

thanx costco!!!
Actually it is worth it. The driving dynamics are well worth the upgrade. I actually have less torque steer now with more hp and the manual trans than i did with the auto
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Originally Posted by Razzi
Wikipedia:
The main advantage of a limited slip differential is found by considering the case of a standard (or "open") differential where one wheel has no contact with the ground at all. In such a case, the contacting wheel will remain stationary, and the non-contacting wheel will rotate freely– the torque transmitted will be equal at both wheels, but will not exceed the threshold of torque needed to move the vehicle, thus the vehicle will remain stationary. In everyday use on typical roads, such a situation is very unlikely, and so a normal differential suffices. For more demanding use however, such as driving off-road, or for high performance vehicles, such a state of affairs is undesirable, and the LSD can be employed to deal with it. By limiting the velocity difference between a pair of driven wheels, useful torque can be transmitted as long as there is some friction available on at least one of the wheels.

so less wheelspin and more even torque? that's what i've always been told


EDIT: guess i should read the whole thread before replying cuz i keep answering stuff thats been answered ll
all those years of playing Gran Turismo 4 and going like "but what's the frikin USE of a LSD?!?!??!?!?!"

ps. if you didn't realize or didn't know.. the GT series is where i got part of my username (GRANskyline)... the skyline part is for the Nissan Skyline
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Actually it is worth it. The driving dynamics are well worth the upgrade. I actually have less torque steer now with more hp and the manual trans than i did with the auto
really? less torque steer? that alone makes it worth it for me....
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I don't get much torque steer in my car but it is really weighed down.
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Originally Posted by Billy Sacco
I don't get much torque steer in my car but it is really weighed down.
Dont know how you dont get much, i had it in my TL-P. Plus the manual trans puts more power to the ground.
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Yeah I must not be getting full power
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Werd, Richie where u at?
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Richie needs to keep this updated! I know you're busy Richie, but we want to follow your progress!
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*sacrafices another lamb to the tl-p 6mt god*

man i really want this lol
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im in the middle of starting a new business so ive been really busy. my goal is to have it the new prototype to be sent off to be tested by thanksgiving. i know joe wants his vtec
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what if you already have a type-s then how much would it be to swap for 6speed cl trans
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Originally Posted by NsX_XsN
what if you already have a type-s then how much would it be to swap for 6speed cl trans
Still a few K and cheaper than a auto trans rebuild if you did the work yourself.
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Originally Posted by NsX_XsN
what if you already have a type-s then how much would it be to swap for 6speed cl trans
around 2-3k for parts id say. hey you're in Ohio wanna come to Chicago use your car as a test subject?
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Originally Posted by Richie v6
around 2-3k for parts id say. hey you're in Ohio wanna come to Chicago use your car as a test subject?

I'm in Ohio too looking to do a 6sp swap on a non-S. Do you need someone for the testing of the module?
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Please have a 99 4 spd
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Originally Posted by jdmsnacks
I'm in Ohio too looking to do a 6sp swap on a non-S. Do you need someone for the testing of the module?
i sure do but i would prefer a type-s but since the auto trans is the same the module i develop should work on both cars. do you have emissions testing in your area?
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Originally Posted by Richie v6
i sure do but i would prefer a type-s but since the auto trans is the same the module i develop should work on both cars. do you have emissions testing in your area?
Fortunately I do not have one for my area.
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Originally Posted by jdmsnacks
Fortunately I do not have one for my area.
unless you want the type s motor too
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i'd love to be the test subject!


oh wait... can't... no funds, not my car yet...

if i did have both, then it would make life easy for you.. since i live so close to chi-town
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Originally Posted by Richie v6
unless you want the type s motor too
What's the price range to get the type s...i'm sitting a dead auto tranny that needs to be replaced. not even really sure where to get the tranny etc. I found 1 place selling the cl tranny for 1300 including shipping but i havn't bought it yet.
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For a type-s 3500 ish doing it without the modules not including labor. (dont know what the modules will run)
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Any updates on the module.
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ya know it's really cool watching ground breaking stuff develop
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im pretty excited about getting a 6 speed in my 99, will this increase acceleration? i have 1k in my pocket right now, i better start saving, oh yea and i have family up in chi town!
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Originally Posted by Richie v6
im in the middle of starting a new business so ive been really busy. my goal is to have it the new prototype to be sent off to be tested by thanksgiving. i know joe wants his vtec
Any updates ?
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What about av6 mt +av6 ecu?
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i am swaping in a type-s into my accord it should help me understand the computer better


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