dark inspire

how does one become a "good" driver in SS mode?

DrivebyTL-S 03

do a search on what RPM to shift at (plenty of threads here) then practice

Ianbiz3

yea what rpms are the best for racing?? and reg city driving?

what are the maxs? i think in 3rd i can get 90+mph I THINK

fsttyms1

SS mode was really intended for back country roads (curvy) so you can hold a gear through a corner. it really wasnt intended for straightline. gate shifting is better for straight line

Mr Zipps

If you racing the most important thing to do is hold that gear for as long as you can.

1- 2 will shift automatically
2- 3 you would shift a second before hitting redline because if you hold off you will hit the rev limiter and that will slow you down
3- 4 you should hold til about 110 - 115. You should shift right when you get into the red. The rev limiter wont bog you down. This is the most important becasue our 4th gear really sucks so you want to be has high as possible when you shift so you start at a higher rpm in 4th. So it takes less time for VTEC to kick in...

Usually you dont shift out of 4th when your racing unless your in the 140 mph range...

Hope that helps.... *** hold 3rd as long as possible*** I beat a CL stock for stock just because I heald 3rd a second or 2 more than he did... We were neck and neck til 110 - 115 range but he shifted before me and I pulled about a car on him for those 2 extra seconds in 3rd....

Vicman17

You can only drive S/S so far. S/S is a modern computer controlled novelty, gimmick, whatever you may want to call it that simulates using a clutch. Nice idea but a clutch pedal is still the way to go, if you seriously want to be a "good" driver.

dark inspire

thankz for the input guyz! what exactly is gateshifting?

PeterUbers

iTrader: (1)

D5 is the "smartest" for any kind of racing .. except for 1/4-mile drag racing... in which case i agree that gateshifting will net you maybe .1+ drop in your ET.

D5 and using your lead foot will net you the best performance in all other situations ... becoming "good at SS" is nonsense .. it's nothing like becoming a good manual transmission driver..

Vicman17

Hold on a second! Holding the gear long only goes so far, until you start to LOSE power and momentum. You would want to know where the powerband of the car is and where the proper shift points are to produce a smooth curve of power. Especially at redline, holding it won't help. Sometimes the sweet spot is just a tad before redline. Any mods on the car would also affect this as power may be coming sooner or later than stock. The guy in the CL most likely shifted too soon and lost power as well, so he had to catch up to the power band to regain all the momentum he lost by shifting to a higher gear.

As what PeterUbers said, D5 may be the smartest to use. I'd say even D4 in a shorter distance since you lose all that power when it kicks into 5th. It also seems that he had ETs on using the varying shifting modes.

I use the following:

D3- when driving along school zones so I don't get a ticket

D4-normal city/highway driving to 110 km/h (about 70 mph)

D5-Anything faster than 110 km/h

S/S mode- in stop and go traffic so no one cuts in front of me.

NYDesi80

Yeah I like using SS mode in traffic too so that no one cuts in front of me as well. But as far as SS shifting.. I dont know .. but I usally redline a little in every gear... and the rev limiter doesnt stop me. I think our red line starts at 7000 RPM.. and I usually shift it when it hits 7200-7300.. milliseconds before rev limiter kicks in. Has ne one else been able to get it passed the red line just a tad?

r10apple

On this car in particular (even with mods), it seems as though shifting before the red line leaves one outside of the vtec point in the next gear...Redline shifting, though may lose a tad in overall hp/torque (which incidentally comes and increases at higher RPM's anyway), actually helps put the car into the vtec range quicker...That's why many of us are curious as to the a-cl guys' progress with e-manage and the unichip to aid in increasing the rev limit or decreasing the vtec engagement...

I will say the new tranny's pcm let's shifting occur after 7k RPM which has helped!!!

fsttyms1

holdin the gear a lil longer DOES improve speed with our cars due to the fact that we wont loose the VTEC range of our power band, i also have the new ecu with my new tranny and the revlimiter has been moved up. on my TL-P i can get the tach to about 6700-6800 now before the limiter kickes in,

Vicman17

Sorry, I didn't factor in the VTEC. That changes everything. Great info guys.