SSItls

http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/u...;f=25;t=000364 Check it out a g 35 has already had a tranny failure. Makes TLS people feel a little better.

rock

Hopefully it doesn't turn into a major problem. I still am a Infiniti/Nissan fan. The g-35, Max, or I-35 would have been my 2nd choice if I didn't Buy the TLS.

Ruski

sounds like the Japanese have finally figured out how to make more horsepower and a bit more torque. But their trannies seem to not be capable of handling this increased power.

ScreamingVQ

The transmission should be able to handle the TQ of the VQ35DE engine since it's the same transmission used in the Q45.

BlackShadow

I also read that a few Q45s are having tranny problems too...is that true? I read it at freshalloy.com.

lilboykorea

harsh ...jk jk but that kinda sux for him

Jaydef

damn!!! tranny porblems already!?
i dont understand with nissan infinit... thee G has the same engine and is faster than the I35. and same with the altima and maxima... does this mean the maxima and I35 r gonna get an engine boost too??? BTW, i looked at the G35, nice ass car, but just too modern, doesnt seem like u cud play around with the outside too much. i cant see the car having a grille or kit, ya know.. plus the inside is cheap as hell...

Ruski

Q45 is a V8... I would expect to see a different tranny, designed for a V8, in that car.

jinu117

I am regular in Freshalloy.com and I don't know where someone got idea of Q45 tranny failing?! Can you please let me know if you find it?
As for tranny being shared with Q45, the model number is same with G35 & Q45 (both RWD 5 speed auto tranny... makes sense to share it) with different gear ratio. Probably can handle quite a bit of torque.
I truely believe (and hope) the tranny failure is an isolated issue. And it seems to be at this point. (but then, I don't know how many in freshalloy got G35 at all at this point, I counted about 20 at this point).
As for TL-S envy thing... where did you get the idea? :P

Monte TLS,MAX

Well JayDeff the G35 is rwd and it has better weight distribution than the Max. Plus it has 5 more horses and a few more pounds of torque, well Motor trend just got the 3.5 auto Altima to 60 in 6.6 not to far off fro m the 6.2 of the G. I recently got 6.45 to 60 in my 02 max auto at the track.

FLAcuraTLS

I think everyone here knows now that there is absolutely nothing special about the G35...I will admit, at first, I was worried from the numbers on paper, that the G35 will blow TLS's out of the water, but what a DISAPPOINTMENT..The car has more torque, less weight, and none of the performance numbers to boot. And now its even more gratifying that the trannies in them are in question. Not to mention, how ridiculously ugly the back ends look on the G35..Sorry Infiniti, you missed the boat with that car, plain and simple. All this, and to top it all of with a cherry, the G can't beat the current TL, which happens to be in it's 5th year of production. Wait until the 04 TL comes out, it will put the G to complete shame. TL rules!

DHB

jinu117 I think the envy thing was just a little good natured humor in reference to the 20-30 TL folks here that have had blown tranny's. I think most folks here are open minded enough to give the G35 it's props when they are due. It's too new to know much about it yet but we are anxiously awaiting more test results and personal ownership experiences. I am always on the lookout for my next TLS replacement so I am very interested in seeing how the G35 does.

PsyKotiC RydeR

finally figured out how to make more hp and tq? hm..ever heard of jap sports cars such as nsx's,rx7's and of course supras?

vandy786

I guess you had to come to this thread after suffering embarassment at the hands of someone who ACTUALLY OWNS a G35. He even admitted that the TLS vs. G35 was still a close battle even though the TL-S has been out for over a year without any major changes. I guess it hurts when nobody (not even G35 owners) shares your views about it being the uncontested king of the class.

Ruski

PsyKotiC RydeR, those were "special" cars. Plus I think the high HP versions only came with a stick, right?

Ruski

also, PsyKotiC RydeR, don't most of them have very low torque?

jinu117

It is gratifying to you to see others suffer?

rock

I am also always in search for my next TLS replacement. Good luck to the G35

Xtrema

Driving dynamic is different between TL and G. G is RWD and TL is FWD. You don't measure every car base on 0-60. Some trucks do 0-60 in 7sec, are they any better than TL? NO!

For TL, a front wheel drive car, 260HP is probably as much as you want due to torque steer. But for the G, the sky is the limit. And dont' forget, in about 2 to 3 years, the G should be outfitted with 4WD (which is already selling in Japan). Watch out Audi!

Love it or hate it, Nissan is quite daring on sheetmetal design. Altima and the G35 Coupe looks awesome and turn heads everywhere. But the G35 and Maxima is just acquired taste. I see Honda taking the conservative route again with new TL and pump out graceful but boring designs.

As for 04 TL (releasing in Spring of 03), I've heard the rumor form the dealer convention in Vegas that Acura may be downgrading the TL a bit to provide room for a RWD sedan slotted between TL and RL. Time will tell on that one.

vandy786

That is purely subjective. Most Nissan rear ends are not that appealing. Many people I know feel this way and they don't all own Hondas / Acuras either. So as far as I am concerned, the Altima may be turning heads, but all for the wrong reason.

MedicSonic

Uninspired and traditional are what the masses want, which is why the Taurus, Accord and Camry are the best selling cars. It takes a person that actually likes automobiles to buy something more exciting.

SSItls

does TLS = Accord

vandy786

According to that statement, most people on this board hate cars. They only bought it because it it gets them places, not because it is luxurious, fast, and appealing. If you are hinting that the new Nissan styling is inspired, you are wrong. And of course it's not traditional, they have a word just for it: ugly. Now don't get me wrong, not all Nissans / Infinitis are ugly: Q45, QX4, etc.

vandy786

It's not equal but its close. But we also know that G35 is not exactly equal to Skyline like they said it would be. But you know what the most shocking equation is? Maxima > I35. Go figure.

PsyKotiC RydeR

autos too those "special" cars had the smae power either 5/6spdd tranny or auto.the vr-4 only came is 5/6spd though.
only problem i've seen on the tranny is the VR-4 only when they started to push more HP than stock..besides that..others were dope.

PsyKotiC RydeR

wut "most" cars are u referring too? hondas? yea most honda have low low torque. supra 320hp315tq
vr-4320hp315tq. is that too low for you?

ScreamingVQ

You are mistaking Skyline with Skyline GT-R....

The G35 is infact a rebadged Japanese Skyline.

And the 1995-current Maxima is based of the I35/I30.

The I35/I30 body style is used elsewhere in the world and called the Cefiro. The Maxima is a reskinned Cefiro while the I35/I30 is a rebadged Cefiro.

Although the Maxima was introduced before the I35/I30, it has been a Cefiro elsewhere.

Didn't know that, did you?

Also for that other person...

TL-S does NOT equal an Accord. They just share major underpins(hence same plateform). and electronics like the Maxima/I35, Camry/ES300, and Passat/A4/A6. Most of the dimensions are TL-S specific and the body is TL-S specific, just like the others.

vandy786

Thanks for the quick facts, part of which were unknown to me. I was aware about the Skyline / Skyline GTR issue though. It seems to me that a lot of people have been misleading others into thinking that the G35 is based on the Skyline GTR.

Mr Hyde

HUH?? you are using a twin turbo as a baseline??? Why not compare engines that are at least somewhat similar in nature. Honda gets as much if not more power out of their engines as other manufacturers.

Honda engines dont put out low torque for their size, they put out hp numbers that matsh much bigger engines. That leaves some people saying that hp is produced, but not torque. People say they have low torque when referring to engines like the 2.0 4 banger found in the S2000. The torque output isnt low at all for a 2 liter 4 cylinder but in relation to 240hp it may seem that way till you realize the size of the engine producing those numbers.

ScreamingVQ

HP peak and TQ peak are nothing if you don't have a good curve...

Honda engines have mostly have flat TQ curve's which makes for great high-end HP figures.

Mr Hyde

Again not if you compare engines of similar size/configuration instead of engines with similar HP ratings.

PsyKotiC RydeR

None the less, I'm one of those impressed people with the amount of power honda engines can make with their "lil" engines. but when it comes down to it..it doesnt matter about the power per liter thing..it just doesnt have enuff power. its got a lot for the size of its engine(whateveer hondaengine) but still in the end its not enuff...
btw i wasnt comparing the TT eingines to the honda eninges..i was just being sarcastic to that other guy about those "special" cars having low tq which is false.

samkws

i am not suprised as the failure of the transmission...

the 5spd auto is new to the VQ engine lineup...usually new parts need 2 yrs to adjust the mistakes...

just like a new production car...the first production yr always get the recall...