AcuraKidd

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So I had a little front end accident with a wall and it caused the driver and passenger airbags to deploy and the seatbelts to lock. i went to one body shop, and he took a look and said that he needs to replace both airbags, install a new module and replace the seatbelts.

Is it true that the seatbelts need to be replaced? Can the module just be reset once new airbags are put in?

Anybody know a place to get this stuff for cheap?

fsttyms1

Nope, he is correct. Start searching salvage yards and E-Bay

piggylover1985

So you have an argument with the wall huh ? Yeah like fsttyms1 said or you can even try car-parts.com.

MurdaZ

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lol

shane_02tl

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I have seat belts they are tan

princelybug

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Sorry.

AcuraKidd

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appreciate the offer but i need them in black, i already posted a thread in the black market, but if you know somebody who has what need than please let me know

friesm2000

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airbag systems are one time use items, including the module, it locks up after deploying, it could potentually not work next time, if it were put back into service, due to the g-forces put onto it before (better playing it safe then have a lawsuit on their hands from them not working)

then seat belts, they also need to be replaced cause they stretch in a collision (and you say they locked up anyways), but only the ones that had been used during the accident need to be replaced, so if you had a passenger with you that would need replacement also (even then i can't remember if our cars got pre-tensioners in the seat belts, but if so, alot of times the passenger belt needs to be replaced also, due to the tensioner automatically deploying with the driverside)


then even on some cars the impact sensors will also have to be replaced also, to be "fully" fixed as long as the air bags are concerned (just to give you an idea, there is a guy here in colorado that goes around to alot of the body shops to repair airbag systems, and when i talked to him, he said he pays something like $20K a MONTH in insurance just for his ONE man operation, to give you an idea of the amount of liability in repairing airbag systems, and making sure they deploy correctly when needed no questions asked

MurdaZ

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therea a guy parting out his CLS, hes in houstin its in the BM thread

jdjohn84

I bought a salvage/rebuilt car, and I can tell you that you do need new seatbelts, and yes both sides. Our seatbelts DO have pretensioners; that is what causes the seatbelt to lock. The pretensioners fire-off in a wreck and lock the seatbelts for safety. They are basically toast after that, just like the airbags. I tried two seatbelts from salvage cars, and neither of them worked. Actually, one of them functioned properly, just like one of my old ones, but they will still throw a code that causes the SRS light to stay one. It wasn't until I bought brand new seatbelts that I was able to clear the SRS light. If you buy online from an OEM parts supplier, you have to pay extra shipping since the seatbelts are considered hazardous material due to the explosives in the pretensioners.

As for the SRS module, it has to be replaced OR reset. A new SRS module is about $300-400 not including labor. However, if you can get the old module out of your car, you can send it to myairbags.com, and they can reset it for $55 including shipping (you pay the shipping to get it there). They turn it around the same day they receive it and send it back priority 2-3 day mail. I replaced mine myself, but getting to the SRS module is a bear. I did a DIY for it if you're interested.

You can buy used airbags off the internet, too, much cheaper than OEM. My airbags had already been replaced, so I didn't have to mess with them, but they aren't too hard to replace. I would imagine the hazmat shipping applies to airbags as well.

After all the components are replaced, you then have to reset the SRS system in order to get the light to turn off. That's pretty easy.

friesm2000

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yes the srs module can be reset, but there is a reason though for it to lock up afterwards, you never know the exact impact it recieved in the prior accident, which may have damaged it, and better safe then sorry when they gotta deploy



and as said the hazordeus shipping charges are going to hurt some (plus with the airbags paper work needs to be done iirc, cause they also have serial numbers on them, for tracking purposes and iirc the government has laws on the selling of them and such)

Gfaze

www.fivestarairbags.com

They have good pricing which includes shipping. A few years back I bought airbags for my Thunderbird. I got both sides and the module for $300 or $400 shipped. I don't remember exactly but it was much less than the $2K the dealer wanted. It was several years back so I don't know if they've changed any policies but it can't hurt to contact them and find out.

They even offer free phone technical support when you go to install them. They do send you instructions with the airbags but offer help anyways. Give them a try. I just went to their website and it looks like they also now carry seatbelts.

jdjohn84

The reset of course would not fix any physical damage to the SRS unit. The unit throws an 'airbag deployed' code, and that is what the reset of the module will fix. The 'airbag deployed' code renders the unit useless until either reset, or you buy a new one.

AcuraKidd

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So wait, im a little confused...

The airbag module the mechanic refers to is actually called the SRS unit, is that correct?

Gfaze

Same thing. You can also call it the SRS module.

AcuraKidd

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ok, i think i came across a good deal

found a complete set, driver & passenger airbags and both seat belts all in black plus the srs module all for $600

the only problem is that its all from an 03 CL-S, do you guys know if this will be compatible with my 02 TL-S?

Also, I decided not to get a new srs module and reuse the old one by just resetting the codes, its only gonna cost about $50...as long as the original unit doesn't have any physical damage

jdjohn84

Compare part numbers for both models/types at www.acuraautomotiveparts.org. If they match, you can use it.

So for the $600: does that include or not include an SRS unit? You confused me a little by mentioning a new one first, then talking about the $50 reset. Also, are those OEM seatbelts?

AcuraKidd

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the package comes with the srs module and lists a part # 77960-S3M-A91-M1

I check the website for acura and it lists as only compatible with an 03 CL-S

but thats not my main concern, I need to know if the airbags will fit or not, here's a picture:

AcuraKidd

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got the part numbers for the airbags

Driver airbag: 77800-S0K-A911-M1
Passenger airbag: 77850-S0K-A823-M1

from the looks of it doesn't look like it will fit

dsickles

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seat belts wont work for sure, they mount to the floor much differently than the tl.

friesm2000

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but they also mount much further back in the car too, still the b pillar but that is much further back though

friesm2000

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but anyways the driver and passenger airbag should fit no issues, but still not be correct though for firing pressures and such, cause iirc we still got the same dash and steering wheel afterall

jdjohn84

Here's a partial DIY on getting the SRS module out.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...&highlight=srs

AcuraKidd

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quick question guys, will I need to swap out the buckles too?

I sure hope not....

friesm2000

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buckles, depends, if you where wearing a seatbelt (or a passenger was), then i would say yes, cause those would have seen excessive forces also, so better to play it safe then be sorry down the road

and normally when you buy a new seatbelt from a manufactor, they come with new buckles automatically

and actually it should not be that hard really pull the seat (even partially up might work) pull the inside cover off, unplug the electrical connector, then undo the 17mm bolt holding it on (might be 19mm, not 100% sure), and then reinstall in reverse order

AcuraKidd

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ok, now im real confused, during the accident i had no passenger and I wasn't wearing a seat belt

I've been soo stressed out lately that I haven't even checked the seatbelts myself, if they weren't worn during the accident, are you guys sure they need to be replaced?

and why the fuck would the passenger airbag deploy if nobody was sitting there? i thought the damm seat has a sensor...

friesm2000

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:tisk tisk: for no seat belt

since you were not wearing a seatbelt, then you should not have to worry about the buckles themselves, never stressed

seatbelts being replaced, they got pretensioners in them, that go off just like the airbags (with explosives), in that they are one time use items, even if they were not worn during the accident

and the passenger airbag going off, with no body there, it depends on the srs module with if they fire it or not, and if it is fully capable of making that decision, most will just fire both and be done with it (especially around the years our cars are)(some newer cars do have selective firing of them, but not too many do)

hell iirc, on a volvo, it will also deploy the side airbags even in a frontal impact, that is when you start talking about getting expensive

friesm2000

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so basically what you will need are new front belts, both front airbags, and a new module to get it fully working again (or used if you must)

friesm2000

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also a new cable reel/clock spring might not hurt either, very thin wires in there, that might be burned up now (it's the things that provides electrical power to the steering wheel, while still being able turn fully)

but not 100% sure on if that is also needed though

AcuraKidd

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forget the damm module, im trying to fix this as cost efficiently as possible. im sending the module to myairbags.com for $55 he's gonna reset it

Also, my mechanic wants to use aftermarket parts to fix the car, as in the left/right fenders, hood, front bumper, fog light housings, along with a few other things i cant remember...

my question is, does it really make a visual difference between oem and aftermarket for these items? he's still gonna use oem paint on them, and i already told him about making it all fit right

do you think it will still look good or not for these types of parts?

friesm2000

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you can make aftermarket parts look right, but they normally take more time/labor to get looking right (and the gaps are usually not as good either), so OEM parts can pay off with paying less in labor

then also to add to that, are the aftermarket parts CAPA (i think that is the acronym) certified fit parts, cause they are close to OEM specs, but not quite, but they still don't require major reworking either; so those can be useable if needed (even then used OEM parts might even be preferred)
(like certi-fit parts are absolutely garbage with bolt holes that don't even line up fully)


then headlights i would just stay with OEM ones there, even if they are used, i hate the depos on my car currently with their hotspots and such, then the foglight housings idk really, i don't really even use mine that much, so i personally probably not notice it, but i would still prefer OEM though, just for the sake that it is origional

AcuraKidd

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yea, he tried to get me to accept depo headlights, i told him right away hell no. i already found one oem passenger headlight for cheap and ordered it

im currently doing some research on the airbags with the part numbers from different years and will try to piece the whole thing together

friesm2000

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yeah i want some OEM headlights cause these suck so bad (or a projector conversion would work also for me )

they where on the car when i got it, cause the previous owner blacked out the originals, and did not do a very good job, so he got these as replacements instead cause they were cheaper

kriz2fer

Thats funny cause i saw that same set on ebay...lol

Also the cl airbag you listed will fit your car just not the seat belts.

AcuraKidd

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yea...i already spoke with the guy and he's not willing to part out, he wants to sell the whole thing

but i got another deal pending on a drivers airbag, hopefully that one goes thru

fsttyms1

Dont you have insurance?


And the sensor in the seat in the TL is for the Side airbag not the front

AcuraKidd

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aahhh, thanks for clearing that up

in regards to insurance i only have liability

i guess i could tell you guys what happened since i have nothing better to do now...

Was driving home from work on the highway, was about 8:15 pm, the highway has 3 lanes, i was in the right, approaching my exit in about a quarter mile.

There is a slight curve in the highway, im going about 60-70 mph thru the curve, and feel the car pull towards the middle lane, and then i realize that there's a car in the middle lane and im approaching in, and fast

well...i freaked out and tapped the break and turned the wheel right, car lost control right away and started sliding, i turn the wheel the other way, and the car turn the exact opposite, i again turn the wheel the other way, car turns the opposite, still sliding...

something finally happens, i must've either slammed on the brakes by then or turned the wheel all the way, and i slammed into the sidewall of the highway with the front passenger side of the car.

Once the impact occurs, i start flying from my seat towards the windshield and then BOOM the airbags pop out and throw me back into my seat. car bounces back from the wall and coasts to a stop on the left lane of the highway.

after the impact while the car was coasting towards the left i was just praying that nobody slams into me to cause further damage to me or the car, cause people travel pretty damm fast on that highway, especially at night.

So once the car finally stops, i take a moment to figure out what just happened and turn on the blinkers right away, everything flew around in my car, including my cell phone, which took me a couple of mins to find.

i then turn around and look thru the rear window and cars are flying by, some even coming towards me in the same left lane that im stuck at, and just barley have enough time to change to the next lane.

It was a very scary feeling watching those cars drive by soo fast, nobody even bothered to pull over and check if i was fine...

so i finally found my phone and call 911, they showed up literally 45 mins later, during this time i managed to get out the car, examine the damage, then figured its unsafe, since if somebody slams into the back of my car im toast

so i get back in and wait for the cops, they never came and a tow truck finally arrives. the guy from the tow truck is yelling at me and calling me crazy for stopping in the left lane, like i had a choice of which lane my car was gonna stop at after such an accident has happened to me

in the meantime my friend arrives, pulls over in front of the truck and walks behind my car and starts waving to get the cars to slow down, he stood there for a couple of mins until i huge truck started approaching us in the left lane, we both freaked and ran forward, and the poor tow truck guy was under my car attaching the chains, we actually thought that was gonna be the end of that poor guys life, lucky for all of us that truck managed to switch lanes just in time.

So we finally got the car towed to my garage, called the cops again, and i just sat there and looked at the car for a few hours trying to understand what just happened, and if it all was just a bad nightmare or for real, cops didn't show up again and i finally got sleepy and went home!

friesm2000

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to here, but at least it sounds like you did not get a ticket though, which is always good
and at least you did not go through the windshield


also while you are at it, i would get those tires checked for roundness, cause they may have flatspotted from sliding sideways

and don't worry, i had the same thing happen to me and my old 94 accord (i rear ended somebody instead (and no airbags either, and i had no belt on either ) but where the front end got damaged and was not driveable, and only had liability, so i kinda know what you are going through (i thought i was going to fix it for the longest time , till my current car came up for sale, and bought it, and sold my wrecked one)
life goes on, and it might be worth to just find another tl or another car

jdjohn84

Glad you didn't get hurt too bad. You have mentioned headlights, SRS components, and fenders, but what about bumper cover, radiator, a/c condenser (and other a/c parts), radiator core support,... A lot of things get damaged in a collision, and some don't show themselves until later.

AcuraKidd

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yea i need a new hood, radiator core support, bumper, left/right fenders, oem lip kit, passenger headlight, and this frame looking thing behind the bumper, it kinda get bent in, the mechanic says its cant be straightened and needs to be replaced, oh and i also need something called a bumper absorber, btw is that a long black styrofoam looking thing behind the bumper?