FEELER: ATLP Catback Exhaust for 2ND GEN!
#83
Three Wheelin'
What are the two things in between the cat and the mufflers, one looks like a muffler and one looks like a swollen section of the B pipe. Would we loose these and would there be a substitute? Thanks
#88
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by jjashaa
lets not.
#89
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by jjashaa
this is just gathering interests...
i needed to see if people would actually be interested before we actually make one.
i needed to see if people would actually be interested before we actually make one.
#90
Originally Posted by fsttyms1
I think people are just due to the fact of limited systems for our car. Getting one made with a tone that most prefer would be really nice.
Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Trust me, with any muffler other than stock the resonance will be TOO much for most
#93
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by jjashaa
would work if people actually said wat they prefered or want for a sound, im thinkin maybe we can have a sound just like or similar to the 3rd Gen ATLP exhaust.. but thats me...
#95
I got the Shifts
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Originally Posted by AMGala
If it's the muffler height that he is talking about, then yes adjustable hangers would work. However I think he is talking about how far out the tip of the muffler goes. For example, my Comptechs sat flush with my rear bumper before I had my kit, but with the kit the tips look like they sit inside too much.
g35=sex, but how about a note lower on the scale? i think that would be perfect, i also wouldnt mind hearing my exhaust while im in vtec
#96
Suzuka Master
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i would be interested if this fit a 2G CL-S... perfect size is 2.5" midpipe to 2.25" axlebacks... btw someone posted oval style borla tips... here is what they look like on my CL...
oh yea, and you will DEF need a good resonator, i'm running 2 bullet style resonators and it still resonates pretty heavily.
oh yea, and you will DEF need a good resonator, i'm running 2 bullet style resonators and it still resonates pretty heavily.
#97
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by phee
i also wouldnt mind hearing my exhaust while im in vtec
#98
Three Wheelin'
what exactly creates the resonance. I mean if you use bigger piping, different mufflers etc, what causes the sound/ vibration and how is it minimized without sacrificing too much gain?
I like the idea of Hflow cat then 1 large to 2 smaller but large than stock with its own resonator on each line. if we substituted a muffler where that back muffler is, would that cut droning?
I like the idea of Hflow cat then 1 large to 2 smaller but large than stock with its own resonator on each line. if we substituted a muffler where that back muffler is, would that cut droning?
#102
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by phee
would we not be able to change the tone and resonance of the exhaust by bending the piping?
Mine still has it, and all my bends are different. with much different pipe. Resonance is mostly due to the motor itself and the exhaust pulses from the exhaust (head/port design im guessing) The best way to change the sound is alot of trial and error with resonators and mufflers. Im still planning on changing mine again to help change the sound. Its pretty much perfect now other than the rasp at a certain throttle/rpm. Im thinking a resonator or pair of resonators may clear that up and make it a little more subdued where the quiet tips can come out
#103
I got the Shifts
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
By bending what? Its not the pipe that makes the resonance, its the exhaust sound that makes the drone(what those call resonance)
Mine still has it, and all my bends are different. with much different pipe. Resonance is mostly due to the motor itself and the exhaust pulses from the exhaust (head/port design im guessing) The best way to change the sound is alot of trial and error with resonators and mufflers. Im still planning on changing mine again to help change the sound. Its pretty much perfect now other than the rasp at a certain throttle/rpm. Im thinking a resonator or pair of resonators may clear that up and make it a little more subdued where the quiet tips can come out
Mine still has it, and all my bends are different. with much different pipe. Resonance is mostly due to the motor itself and the exhaust pulses from the exhaust (head/port design im guessing) The best way to change the sound is alot of trial and error with resonators and mufflers. Im still planning on changing mine again to help change the sound. Its pretty much perfect now other than the rasp at a certain throttle/rpm. Im thinking a resonator or pair of resonators may clear that up and make it a little more subdued where the quiet tips can come out
but i could be wrong...
#105
-Arsenic-
Originally Posted by phee
i figured it worked along the same principal as piped instruments, i know for a fact that variating the path in which the sound travels changes the tone and pitch of the final note. IE:zig zag piping may help with the deeper acoustics and reduce higher pitch sounds, the integrity of the metal also helps with vibration.
but i could be wrong...
but i could be wrong...
#107
I got the Shifts
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Originally Posted by 02type-s
You are right, but fewer exhaust bends=more power
more bends could equal more torque, and we all need that
#108
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by phee
not necessarily, if the pipes are mandrel bent and have the correct amount of curves to create the correct acoustics we may be able to use a wider diameter piping to increase power.
more bends could equal more torque, and we all need that
more bends could equal more torque, and we all need that
torque wold be so minimal you wouldnt gain any thing usable. Want torque with this motor, go FI
#109
Safety Car
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Originally Posted by phee
not necessarily, if the pipes are mandrel bent and have the correct amount of curves to create the correct acoustics we may be able to use a wider diameter piping to increase power.
more bends could equal more torque, and we all need that
more bends could equal more torque, and we all need that
#110
Suzuka Master
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more than half of the backpressure that the motor needs is created by the headers and collector. a properly designed exhaust system, the headers/collectors provide 100% of all the back pressure needed and the cat converter all the way back is just for sound/emissions.
#111
I got the Shifts
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Originally Posted by aznbo187
Actually, on an ideal system you want less bends for more hp/tq. Both factors are driven by the velocity of the gases. Creating more restrictions (bends, diameter changes) in turn creates more turbulence and results in a lower velocity. So in all, you want a correctly sized, consistent tubing throughout the entire exhaust system.
thanks guys, i have always wondered how that would work.
do you guys measure exhaust notes on a musical scale?
#112
1) jjashaa
2) overboost
3) NighthawkBlack
4) Gee-TR
5) Manapuaman
6) KSuchdeve
7) Grater06
8) rajca
9) 03aspec
10) mrchan625
11) babyblacktype-s
12) -vip3r-
13) phee
14) Cisko TLS
15) stylesinfinite <--- thank you for pointing that out
16) -Rz-UA5 <--If there is a titanium tip version
2) overboost
3) NighthawkBlack
4) Gee-TR
5) Manapuaman
6) KSuchdeve
7) Grater06
8) rajca
9) 03aspec
10) mrchan625
11) babyblacktype-s
12) -vip3r-
13) phee
14) Cisko TLS
15) stylesinfinite <--- thank you for pointing that out
16) -Rz-UA5 <--If there is a titanium tip version
#114
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Originally Posted by phee
consider me educated
thanks guys, i have always wondered how that would work.
do you guys measure exhaust notes on a musical scale?
thanks guys, i have always wondered how that would work.
do you guys measure exhaust notes on a musical scale?
#115
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Here, I'll make it official:
1) jjashaa
2) overboost
3) NighthawkBlack
4) Gee-TR
5) Manapuaman
6) KSuchdeve
7) Grater06
8) rajca
9) 03aspec
10) mrchan625
11) babyblacktype-s
12) -vip3r-
13) phee
14) Cisko TLS
15) stylesinfinite <--- thank you for pointing that out
16) -Rz-UA5 <--If there is a titanium tip version
17) jeffrop
1) jjashaa
2) overboost
3) NighthawkBlack
4) Gee-TR
5) Manapuaman
6) KSuchdeve
7) Grater06
8) rajca
9) 03aspec
10) mrchan625
11) babyblacktype-s
12) -vip3r-
13) phee
14) Cisko TLS
15) stylesinfinite <--- thank you for pointing that out
16) -Rz-UA5 <--If there is a titanium tip version
17) jeffrop
#117
Three Wheelin'
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I can vouch for Mike 100%
Great quality product!! I love my exhaust:
This guy did a good job capturing the sound on video but still doesnt do the exhaust justice lol. Enjoy:::
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrRUt83FC7k
Great quality product!! I love my exhaust:
This guy did a good job capturing the sound on video but still doesnt do the exhaust justice lol. Enjoy:::
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrRUt83FC7k
#119
Senior Moderator
That does sound very nice