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Old 05-02-2002, 02:26 PM
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Thumbs up Dynoed TL-S yesterday

i went to a dyno place yesterday and had the car dynoed on a Dynojet dyno. didnt get a chance to scan the sheet yet, but I got 232hp and 197ft-lb of torque. i was pretty happy with the results. my HP dyno looks virtually identical to the Comptech CL-S dyno with headers. so for all of you wondering if they were honest about it - they were! kinda made my day. also, i believe the CAI didnt make a diff since i was standing still, and the fan they have blowing at the car is not strong enough to make a diff, feels like if u stick ur hand out the window cruising at about 10-15mph. i'll post the scan of the dyno soon. also found it pretty funny that the guy couldnt believe i was making ~290hp at the fly wheel. i told him that the average loss for our TLs is at least 20% and more like 22%, he said Dynojet recommends an absolute top loss of 17% for fwd autos.. which as we've seen from other dynos is not true, we lose a good 20-23%... stupid inefficient tranny! wait, i take it back.. dont wanna upset it and have it break down on me :p ... but anyway, just wanted to share the dyno with all those curious
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Wow that is good. 232hp at the wheels is more like 310hp at the flywheel on TL's I have seen many TL/CL dyno's with 22-25% loss.

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You might be one of the lucky ones. Off the manuf line, some cars are just faster and some are just slower. The 260hp is just an average of some sort, but dayum, looks like you came out lucky with your TL!
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Excellent numbers -- I'm anxious to see your graph. I'm going to get around to dyno'ing mine soon and I'd be happy with numbers like that.
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Great numbers Zodiak!

BTW, a regular TL-S should dyno ~200-205 hp right? Since you have all these engine mods, it went up to 232 hp. Damn, can't wait to get headers.
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Excellent numbers -- I'm anxious to see your graph. I'm going to get around to dyno'ing mine soon and I'd be happy with numbers like that.
Hey ron we should go together to boyton beach to get it dyno. Where doug get's his dynos.
Old 05-03-2002, 08:08 AM
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Re: Dynoed TL-S yesterday

Hey man, you got any pics of your cars audio system -- it sounds sick.

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Originally posted by ZodiakTL
i went to a dyno place yesterday and had the car dynoed on a Dynojet dyno. didnt get a chance to scan the sheet yet, but I got 232hp and 195ft-lb of torque. i was pretty happy with the results. my HP dyno looks virtually identical to the Comptech CL-S dyno with headers. so for all of you wondering if they were honest about it - they were! kinda made my day. also, i believe the CAI didnt make a diff since i was standing still, and the fan they have blowing at the car is not strong enough to make a diff, feels like if u stick ur hand out the window cruising at about 10-15mph. i'll post the scan of the dyno soon. also found it pretty funny that the guy couldnt believe i was making ~290hp at the fly wheel. i told him that the average loss for our TLs is at least 20% and more like 22%, he said Dynojet recommends an absolute top loss of 17% for fwd autos.. which as we've seen from other dynos is not true, we lose a good 20-23%... stupid inefficient tranny! wait, i take it back.. dont wanna upset it and have it break down on me :p ... but anyway, just wanted to share the dyno with all those curious
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Originally posted by ymckoon
You might be one of the lucky ones. Off the manuf line, some cars are just faster and some are just slower. The 260hp is just an average of some sort, but dayum, looks like you came out lucky with your TL!
I wouldn't say he's lucky... the numbers look like everyone else's. The stock TL-S dynos around 200hp to the wheels. He has headers and an intake, so 232hp to the wheels is about right.....
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I wouldn't mind going with you, I'm in the same area. It would give me a chance to test my CL-S.
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I wouldn't say he's lucky... the numbers look like everyone else's. The stock TL-S dynos around 200hp to the wheels. He has headers and an intake, so 232hp to the wheels is about right.....
Max POWER= 226.2..........6hp less than ZodiakTL
max TORQUE= 211.7.........17ft-lb more than ZodiakTL

Crzy Acura got those numbers with H/I/E.
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I wouldn't mind going with you, I'm in the same area. It would give me a chance to test my CL-S.
I'm not in that area, but yeah we should go one of this day. I will call john to see if he gives me a deal to dyno 2 cars.

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Max POWER= 226.2..........6hp less than ZodiakTL
max TORQUE= 211.7.........17ft-lb more than ZodiakTL

Crzy Acura got those numbers with H/I/E.
wow...that is a significant difference...especially the torque. OK, so most numbers are consistant except for CrzyAcura's
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DYNO Sheet

here's the dyno sheet:

and the numbers for Crzy Acura are pretty impressive, i'd trade the hp for the TQ anyday. wonder if geting the exhaust would do that

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there are some oddities i see...your torque falls off to soon too fast and you have the blip around 4.8K...did you just have one pull????
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Originally posted by juniorbean


wow...that is a significant difference...especially the torque. OK, so most numbers are consistant except for CrzyAcura's

What can i say... i like to be different.
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Originally posted by typeR
there are some oddities i see...your torque falls off to soon too fast and you have the blip around 4.8K...did you just have one pull????

i thought it was kinda strange that the torque falls off like that also, but i havnt seen too many other dynos with my config, so i dunno... and i actually did 3 runs, the first one, they had TCS on and the guy ran in 1st, so it got screwed up, but second and third were virtually identical.
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thats a great picture of your car ,,,,,,and id also like to see some pics of that audio system,,,,,,,by the way are ur fogz hid also ?
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Originally posted by NsX Pilot
thats a great picture of your car ,,,,,,and id also like to see some pics of that audio system,,,,,,,by the way are ur fogz hid also ?
thanks

the fogs are stock fog lights, but i like the way they look. i need to take new pics of my audio setup cuz its changed fromt the last time i took pics, i'll post them soon.

here's some more pics in case ur interested:
http://www.acura-tl.com/forum/showth...387#post367387
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Nice! Very close to 540iA numbers.

I think 540's pull like 230-235HP stock, but sh!t load of torque though....like 270 lbs.

Congrats...

BTW, why are your torque numbers so low...in my TL with I/H/E/VAFC, I pulled like 198lbs. of torque and I think most CLS with Headers are pulling over 210 lbs...
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Originally posted by AC

BTW, why are your torque numbers so low...in my TL with I/H/E/VAFC, I pulled like 198lbs. of torque and I think most CLS with Headers are pulling over 210 lbs...
i dunno maybe its the exhaust that does it... i'm now thinking about buying the comptech exhaust to check... neone wanna sell theirs?
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So... we never get full 260 HP as advertised?! Is it happends to all cars or just our TL-S?

Sorry if I ask a stupid question. :o
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So... we never get full 260 HP as advertised?! Is it happends to all cars or just our TL-S?

Sorry if I ask a stupid question. :o
Yes we do. what makes you think we don't?

The problem is that manufacturers advertised with flywheel horsepower and not wheel(tire) horsepower. Dyno's only show wheel horsepower and you have to do the match to get the flywheel horspower. So 260hp = around 200hp at the wheels. That is 23% loss.
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i thought hp always = torque at 5200rpm?
seems thats not where it crosses on the graph..


edit: oops... didnt realize the scales on the left and right were different.. heh.. ok.. corrected myself
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Originally posted by Bitium


Yes we do. what makes you think we don't?

The problem is that manufacturers advertised with flywheel horsepower and not wheel(tire) horsepower. Dyno's only show wheel horsepower and you have to do the match to get the flywheel horspower. So 260hp = around 200hp at the wheels. That is 23% loss.
Oh... now I got it! Thanks. :P
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Hey,

Did you ever get a chance to scan your Dyno Sheet? I'm a big dyno junkie.

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DOH! Just saw you did post it, but I'm just seeing a red X.
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Originally posted by BNut
Hey,

Did you ever get a chance to scan your Dyno Sheet? I'm a big dyno junkie.

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DOH! Just saw you did post it, but I'm just seeing a red X.
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ye, my provider went down, lost all my stuff...
here it is
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