CAB NY

this was ask many times be for but cant find where i saw the answer i always used seafoam but now I'm having a hard finding it only can find the deep creek but never used it but my question is it the same just in a spray form with the same results thanks

niju321

yes it is.

01tl4tl

same 16 ounces of 100% seafoam in Deep Creep-
which works great to do the TB air plate and thru the main vac port at TB- better/safer than liquid,, In my opinion
Also works similar to wd40 in household uses and car lubrication- deicer

CAB NY

thanks a lot because i have no problem finding DC

01tl4tl

lucky you! we only have 1 autozone that sells DC, but every other parts store and even walmart has liquid!

brian6speed

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I actually saw a car that did this treatment driving with the smoke on a main road yesterday and a cop pulled him over.

webmastir

heh, yeah...i read that a few other zine members had that happen too. sucks.. but the police just let them go once they found out what they were doing. it'd take a real douche cop to ticket over that, IMO

01tl4tl

as said many times- do this on lonely road with no traffic- not the heavy freeway or your own block!!
I like to warm up on freeway then use BK parking lot off an exit- with large open field to point exhaust towards while doing
Then side road blowout., then freeway when it will run at 4000 rpm, most smoke will be gone by then

cops only care if you are laying quarts of oil on the road- which we have all seen cars like that!
Tell them you seafoamed and they shake head knowingly and say goodbye

kdawg8526

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i usually do my seafoam around warehouse areas at night with a flashlight where theres nobody around

drunkenninja4305

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in my drive way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo-Ep9wTSwo

slavver01

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whos seen this article!!? im thinking bout trying it out one of these days.

http://hildstrom.com/projects/seafoam/index.html

also, advanced auto parts is running a sale on the 16oz seafoam liquid, its $6.99 till end of april. and if youre willing to try theres a $10 off $25 coupon thats supposed to be used only at grand opening stores, but that I and others have used at regular stores. ive been denied once, the other 3 times worked like a charm. I would buy 4 cans for $28 plus tax, and the coupon takes off $10, making it $18 plus tax for 4 cans of seafoam. i also used it to buy new NGK plugs. same method. hope that helps some of ya out!

http://advancegrandopenings.com/admin/contest/coupon

01tl4tl

ninja- please go back and read the part of DIY about safely restarting engine and allow to stabilize before revving
With high concentration of seafoam laying in the plenuns and runners with gas- its just barely able to ignite--allow more gas to come in (as old mix moves thru) while holding slightly above idle-- until it will rev nicely to 2000
then drive in low at 2000 until it will rev easily and cleanly to 4000- should take a few minutes
Now hit freeway type road and 4000 rpm for 5-10 minutes with some blast to 5000 and back down to 3000, back up to 5- down to 3
that gets pressure and heat going --makes for a better result
DO NOT rev it in driveway!!
Noobs repeat 1 can in gas and most of a can in manifold in 1 month then good for a year
Always helps to clean oil with 1/3 can and 30 minute drive right before change

drunkenninja4305

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did everything except for the easy reving and the 5-10min 3000-5000 rpm, and the not revving in driveways lol
thanks for helping out my future seafoamings

01tl4tl

so other than not following directions critical to a good job--everything was fine!

drunkenninja4305

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no need to get cranky

brian6speed

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I did the seafoam treatment yesterday on my 03 cl for the first time in the cars life and i got no white smoke. Is this normal or an indication of something going wrong. I put 8 oz in the vac port and 8 oz in the gas tank with a 1/4 tank of gas. The car did stall once when i was doing the vac port but i just restarted the car let it idle again and continued.

01tl4tl

depends on if you did the warmup drive right and had heat in the cat- thats what makes smoke, not an indication of crud!

you can make smoke in driveway by holding rpm at 2000 and add seafoam slowly- it will smoke big time for you

01tl4tl

its ok to stall while adding- you got too much at once is all- no sweat

I say to use 1 can in half tank of gas so you get more cleaning time.
who goes much below low fuel light? so you waste cleaning opportunity

sadate

thanks for pointing out the DIY thread I bought a can of seafoam and put it in my gas tank and it seemed to accelerate a lot smoother than before. Also when I bought the car to the mechanic last time, I think they seafoamed the engine because I saw white smoke coming from the exhaust after they put it in

01tl4tl

your invoice will list a `top end cleaner` or `fuel additive` if they used something,,sure you dont have a blown head gasket? <g>

rough running cars often get a dose of whatever cleaner the shops uses- foam-bg-wynns etc
get things clean and you have a baseline to see if it needs more than tune up in a can

try a full can in 1/2 tank- makes a real differance, do that a couple times a year-5000 miles or with oil changes for best running car all year long

01tl4tl

In response to some PMs-
add to gas before anything so it has time to work while doing warm up drive and blow out- all that fuel flow at high rpm will get the injectors clean fast! and blast the rear of the intake valves clean too

oil method- does SOME cleaning of the egr ports but wont solve problem- may soften crud before you pull manifold to clean them
DOES remove glaze from rings, improve compression there, and send some vapors thru PCV system to the TB== giving it a little cleaning too

spark plugs-
seafoam wont hurt them if low miles (under 70k) but if 100k you are ready anyway- if 100 you can load them up with crud --they are not sparking hot enough to burn it off- thats the prob- it really needed plugs!

If over 60kmiles its ready for new plugs- wait a week after foaming to let all the crud (gas still cleaning stuff) get blown out- then diy NGK Iridium IX plugs, makes tl run better than new IMO

01tl4tl

drunkninja-
sorry- I was giving you as friendly poke of fun- didnt realize you were new and not familiar with the diy threads on seafoam, no offense meant in any way
A lot of us know each other irl from aziner meets, or have been buddies here for a few years,, and give each other a ribbing when possible~

please enjoy the wealth of knowledge available between the members here- a lot of good people give their time for free to educate others and troubleshoot problems

the DIYs are reviewed by several experts here before being posted- some are under constant review as better methods- descriptions or procedures are found
seafoam is a good example- used to have wrong vac line- now we know its the master vac port at the TB to manifold connection is the correct one to use-

to anyone I offend- my words are not always gentle but no harm is meant to any

CAB NY

like i said before i cant find the seafoam liquid anymore but have the DC but whats a good alternative to use for the gas thanks

01tl4tl

deep creep is 100 percent seafoam with no additives- shoot into the gas tank thru gas filler
Do it before adding gas if possible- helps mix it better

01tl4tl

redline SI-1 fuel injector cleaner is another gas tank option- full 16 oz to half tank

CAB NY

thanks

timberland73

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I just finished doing seafoam in the intake and the gas tank. A lot of smole but not as much as I expected. Car feels good and I'm doin the spark plugs on Saturday. Thanks a lot to 01tl4tl for all the help!

BigAl3000

I had to read through all of the posts before I did the Seafoam on my car. I saw a DIY on youtube for a J30A1 engine and went from there on the directions, including your directions. Before I get into the details, I just wanted to thank you all for your input and giving your directions and opinions.

First I had to get a 10mm socket and wrench from the Advanced Auto Parts. 10mm bolt was 5 bucks and the wrench was about 11 bucks. I got 3 cans of Seafoam, 6.99 each from there, that 5/16x30 hose and thas it. I left about 1/4 of gas in the tank and was already due for an oil change.

I removed 2 of the valve cover screws fine, but 2 of em broke off and are now stuck in the grooves. I took the vavle cover off and seen the PCV valve u guys were talking about. At first, I thought I could just squeeze my fingers to get the clamp off, but its best to use a small pair of plyers. Squeeze that and it'll move easily that way. Place it in the middle. The hose was kinda hard to take off, but I nudged it off with the plyers I had. I attached the new hose and began to suck up about 12 oz into the throttle. I did it little by little and it cut off a few times. But here's the thing. As I was getting near the end, the Seafoam backfired on me and splashed everywhere. I cut the car off and cleaned up the mess. I put some in the crank case and some in the fuel line. I let it sit for 20 minutes and when I started it up, it hesitated, but turned over and the smoke came out for about a good 5 minutes. I revved it up (yeah, didn't know I wasn't supposed to) and after a few minutes, I drove off. After about 2 minutes of driving, the smoke was gone. It hesitated at a light, but I drove for 20 minutes after that. I ran great and after that, I got the oil changed.

Questions

1. It has over 135k miles on it and since I've had the car (96k when I got it) I never changed the spark plugs. Do I change them as a result of this and which kind do you recommend? Like which NGK brand again?

2. If I would have sucked up the whole 16oz bottle, would I have had more smoke come out?

Oh yeah, the check engine light went off at around 5 miles of driving.

timberland73

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My CEL never came on, is that strange?

JRhodes88

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So, just to make sure I'm right on this....it's good to do a Seafoam cleansing through the PCV port before an oil change correct?

BigAl3000

Yeah thas true. If you pour some into the crankcase(oil) then they say get an oil change within 100 miles and some ppl say yes. I choose to do my seafoaming today but thas because right after, I knew I was going to get an oil change. Something like once the seafoam enters the crankcase, the deposits is bad for the engine.

But the directions on page 1 is for just the PCV valve and the gas tank.

JRhodes88

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that's what I'm going to do then. Should I put a whole bottle into the crankcase? or should I put half in there and half in the PCV?

dudeinaTL

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FWIW, I went about 300 miles with Seafoamed oil. No blatant side effects...but I guess that remains to be seen.

01tl4tl

ok lets stop- someone has used terms that dont apply

pcv- NO
valve cover NO
You remove the plastic engine dress cover to access the TB -throttle springs and master VAC port with the squeeze clamp- its true pliers work better- the point I was making is its different than all other clamps there- so you got the correct one

you add thru the engine oil filler cap like normal oil goes in- that will do some cleaning of PCV as vapors are pushed thru it in normal operation
You can go up to 500 miles/1 month on seafoam BUT use a new filter if doing that,, as much crud will come out! and monitor oil on dipstick for sludge

tech support at seafoam says 30 minuntes solid drive- without stopping, will do a great job- it takes that much time and heat to work right
More time is even better, used over a week or so
Key is to have 15 minute freeway warmup before oil change so all the sludge is liquidy in the pan

1.5 oz per 1 qt or approx 1/3 can to TL oil

WAY too much got sucked in at once for a backwash to occur-
did you dip the line in the fluid? most common problem
MUST stay 1 inch above fluid level and it will make tornado of seafoam into the hose- cool to watch~
works with the aerosol version `deep creep` and spray into master vac port- 1 inch away and tornado effect appears

smoke is relative to heat in the CAT-
revving while still on heavy concentration of foam to fuel in the plenums/runners to the cylinders is hard on the engine do NOT do that

follow the directions!!

time for a new diy and lock it~

01tl4tl

foaming the intake vac port and gas tank does NOT put enough deposits into the oil to even think about--Would have to get past the piston rings- a tiny amount does and thats ok it helps the rings
the main part goes out the exhaust- thru the cat and gone
Seafoam is even good for the cat!!

oil change is only needed if you added directly to the oil,
which is good to do every other oil change/once a year along with the other areas

01tl4tl

CEL not coming on means you followed the directions and did a good after drive to burn it off the O2 sensor
Congrats!

01tl4tl

BIG AL- if the plugs have more than 60kmiles on them its ready for new NGK Iridium IX

ck engine air filter, cabin filters - probably overdue on those and easy DIY
If you can seafoam you can do anything!!

noobs remember to repeat 1 can in 1/2 tank gas and the vac method with about half can in a month or 2, finish it up and ready for a year/15

JRhodes88

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this

timberland73

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That's good to hear, I thought I did something wrong. If you lived here in CO, I'd buy you a beer or two.

01tl4tl

If only they would allow me to accept paypal donations

these $700 beer runs are killing me~