Changing Spark Plugs !! Screwedd!! Help Please
10-29-2007, 03:40 PM
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Changing Spark Plugs !! Screwedd!! Help Please
hey guys i have a 99 acura tl , have multiple misfires...got the compression test and everything tested ...the engine seems to be very strong..the mechanic wanted $400 just for the labor to change the spark plugs and the coil pack...after changing the coil packs , and installing the spark plugs...the car has lost power , the check engine light blinks when accelerated, indicating a mis-fire....the mechanic said the spark plugs were not tight enough....i checked again and they seem tight....what possibly could have i done wrong..!!!!!!!! PLEASE HELP...??? ANY SUGGESTIONS...RECOMMENDATION...WOULD HIGHLY BE APPRECIATED....
10-29-2007, 03:56 PM
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what spark plugs are you running
what codes were the misfires determined by
how many coil pack were installed
Usually one coil pack dies and code says 3 cylinders are misfiring
The coil packs are fragile like light bulbs and will quit after handling or just on age
what codes were the misfires determined by
how many coil pack were installed
Usually one coil pack dies and code says 3 cylinders are misfiring
The coil packs are fragile like light bulbs and will quit after handling or just on age
10-29-2007, 03:58 PM
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what do you mean the plugs seem tight
when you installed them you either used a torque wrench or the method on the box right?
snug, but more than finger tight
Does it sound funny like a washer for the plugs got stuck and now there are 2 washers on one plug?
when you installed them you either used a torque wrench or the method on the box right?
snug, but more than finger tight
Does it sound funny like a washer for the plugs got stuck and now there are 2 washers on one plug?
10-29-2007, 04:09 PM
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yo dude i had the same problem i had 2 misfire then i replaced the sparks with ngk and whne i was tightin them i didnt tighen with till i couldnt tighen ti no more , so i didnt get the full power too, but after i tighen it up some more it ran like it was no joke!! so try tighen them till u cant tighen it anymore and see whats up...!
10-29-2007, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jdmua5inspire
yo dude i had the same problem i had 2 misfire then i replaced the sparks with ngk and whne i was tightin them i didnt tighen with till i couldnt tighen ti no more , so i didnt get the full power too, but after i tighen it up some more it ran like it was no joke!! so try tighen them till u cant tighen it anymore and see whats up...!
10-29-2007, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jdmua5inspire
yo dude i had the same problem i had 2 misfire then i replaced the sparks with ngk and whne i was tightin them i didnt tighen with till i couldnt tighen ti no more , so i didnt get the full power too, but after i tighen it up some more it ran like it was no joke!! so try tighen them till u cant tighen it anymore and see whats up...!
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10-29-2007, 06:58 PM
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12 foot pounds torque is spark plug setting,
or if no tool, whatever the box says- usually fingertight PLUS 1/3-2/3 of a turn additional
Crank it in there and break it off- what fun~
or if no tool, whatever the box says- usually fingertight PLUS 1/3-2/3 of a turn additional
Crank it in there and break it off- what fun~
10-29-2007, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jdmua5inspire
yo dude i had the same problem i had 2 misfire then i replaced the sparks with ngk and whne i was tightin them i didnt tighen with till i couldnt tighen ti no more , so i didnt get the full power too, but after i tighen it up some more it ran like it was no joke!! so try tighen them till u cant tighen it anymore and see whats up...!
10-29-2007, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 02type-s
Tighten them too much and you can really fuck up that car...
Check the boots on wire might not on all the way.
Check the gap on the each spark plug.
Make sure they all looks the same.
I had one spark plug with to much gap before.(brand new off the box)
And also check the coil pack, make sure the wire on right.
10-29-2007, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
12 foot pounds torque is spark plug setting,
or if no tool, whatever the box says- usually fingertight PLUS 1/3-2/3 of a turn additional
Crank it in there and break it off- what fun~
or if no tool, whatever the box says- usually fingertight PLUS 1/3-2/3 of a turn additional
Crank it in there and break it off- what fun~
10-30-2007, 12:58 AM
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i used the ngk spark plug..i made sure to take my old one to advance suto shop and got the same exact ngk spark plug with the same number...they were like $11 each..anywayz..i changed all the 6 coil packs to....i took my car to the mechanic , he caled me and said the spark plugs werent tight...he fixed it and said it would be $400 ..im like thats crazy....i told him he should have asked me before working on it , i wanted an estimate first..so he took the spark plugs out and put the old one back in...now i put the new ones myself and they are pretty tight enough ..but still the car is running bad....the check engine light is always on....i can feel no power in the car...i dut know what to do..but just to go back and pay him $400 again...so screwedddd.....
10-30-2007, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
12 foot pounds torque is spark plug setting,
or if no tool, whatever the box says- usually fingertight PLUS 1/3-2/3 of a turn additional
Crank it in there and break it off- what fun~
or if no tool, whatever the box says- usually fingertight PLUS 1/3-2/3 of a turn additional
Crank it in there and break it off- what fun~
10-30-2007, 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 555acuratl
i used the ngk spark plug..i made sure to take my old one to advance suto shop and got the same exact ngk spark plug with the same number...they were like $11 each..anywayz..i changed all the 6 coil packs to....i took my car to the mechanic , he caled me and said the spark plugs werent tight...he fixed it and said it would be $400 ..im like thats crazy....i told him he should have asked me before working on it , i wanted an estimate first..so he took the spark plugs out and put the old one back in...now i put the new ones myself and they are pretty tight enough ..but still the car is running bad....the check engine light is always on....i can feel no power in the car...i dut know what to do..but just to go back and pay him $400 again...so screwedddd.....
10-30-2007, 07:28 AM
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Yeah sounds fishy. Get the code read at autozone and go from there. And do not freakin tighten until you can't tighten anymore. Thats horrible advice. Stripped spark plug threads are not fun I had to deal with that in my truck and wow that sucked.
10-30-2007, 09:48 AM
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if its shaking WHILE accelerating, theres a bad plug, be4 it didnt do it, so all u had to do be4 was change the spark plug, but now, seems like one of the coil packs is back, u can do it urself and switch some coil packs up, or take it to another mech..
10-30-2007, 12:34 PM
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thanks for all the advice...today im dropping the car off to get the transmission rebuilt , after that im going to get the spark plus changed again...i got the codes from autozone...i had 12 codes...1 was cat converter , 1,2,3,4,5,6, cyclinder misfire , random misfire , egr flow insufficient , and the tcs...
10-30-2007, 04:10 PM
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HOLY COW THIS IS SOME BIG NEWS !!!!!!!!!!! YOU GUYS WONT BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED TODAY...so previously like i said i took my car to the mechanic (i had changed the coil packs before..all 6 new coil packs) and he was charging me $400 to change the spark plugs...which i agreed to..than the car was running perfect...i refused to pay tha amount so he took em out.....i changed the spark plugs my self again , but it didnt make a difference...so i took that car to a different mechanic ..he diagnosed the car ..this is how he diagnosed it..!!!!
he disconnected the cable on top of every coil pack to check if the engine ran any rougher...apparently 1 coil pack ,cable disconnection did not make any difference..so the mechanic told me it was the PCN COMPUTER THAT HAD TO BE REPLACED AND AN ESTIMATE FOR $700 ........when i came back and checked the coil pack my self..after pulling out the coil pack i noticed THE FIRST MECHANIC STUCK A PIECE OF PAPER INSIDE MY COIL PACK..which made me get all the random misfire codes and the car ran rough...after replacing the paper...the coil had been damaged so i used one of my old ones...and it run beautiful now..!!! end of my nightmare....and learnt a big lesson how messed up and how far and dishonest the mechanics are willing to go just for a little bit of money ...
he disconnected the cable on top of every coil pack to check if the engine ran any rougher...apparently 1 coil pack ,cable disconnection did not make any difference..so the mechanic told me it was the PCN COMPUTER THAT HAD TO BE REPLACED AND AN ESTIMATE FOR $700 ........when i came back and checked the coil pack my self..after pulling out the coil pack i noticed THE FIRST MECHANIC STUCK A PIECE OF PAPER INSIDE MY COIL PACK..which made me get all the random misfire codes and the car ran rough...after replacing the paper...the coil had been damaged so i used one of my old ones...and it run beautiful now..!!! end of my nightmare....and learnt a big lesson how messed up and how far and dishonest the mechanics are willing to go just for a little bit of money ...
10-30-2007, 05:06 PM
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its the
GETTY GAS STATION/ AUTO CHOP SHOP
NOTE SURE ABOUT THE EXACT NUMBER ...
SOMETHING LIKE
1600 FRONT STREET
EAST MEADOW , NY , 11554
OPPOSITE TO EAST MEADOW FIRE STATION / NEAR PATHMARK SHOPPING CENTER...
GETTY GAS STATION/ AUTO CHOP SHOP
NOTE SURE ABOUT THE EXACT NUMBER ...
SOMETHING LIKE
1600 FRONT STREET
EAST MEADOW , NY , 11554
OPPOSITE TO EAST MEADOW FIRE STATION / NEAR PATHMARK SHOPPING CENTER...
10-30-2007, 08:01 PM
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REPORT this to your state board that licenses shops- consumer affairs- local news etc.
the name of the place should have been a tip off to you to avoid them
and whenever a sleazer doesnt do the right paperwork and doesnt get paid-
they WILL dick with your car- the ol paper in the plug wire trick- ahhh thats always a good one!!
the name of the place should have been a tip off to you to avoid them
and whenever a sleazer doesnt do the right paperwork and doesnt get paid-
they WILL dick with your car- the ol paper in the plug wire trick- ahhh thats always a good one!!
10-30-2007, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 555acuratl
HOLY COW THIS IS SOME BIG NEWS !!!!!!!!!!! YOU GUYS WONT BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED TODAY...so previously like i said i took my car to the mechanic (i had changed the coil packs before..all 6 new coil packs) and he was charging me $400 to change the spark plugs...which i agreed to..than the car was running perfect...i refused to pay tha amount so he took em out.....i changed the spark plugs my self again , but it didnt make a difference...so i took that car to a different mechanic ..he diagnosed the car ..this is how he diagnosed it..!!!!
he disconnected the cable on top of every coil pack to check if the engine ran any rougher...apparently 1 coil pack ,cable disconnection did not make any difference..so the mechanic told me it was the PCN COMPUTER THAT HAD TO BE REPLACED AND AN ESTIMATE FOR $700 ........when i came back and checked the coil pack my self..after pulling out the coil pack i noticed THE FIRST MECHANIC STUCK A PIECE OF PAPER INSIDE MY COIL PACK..which made me get all the random misfire codes and the car ran rough...after replacing the paper...the coil had been damaged so i used one of my old ones...and it run beautiful now..!!! end of my nightmare....and learnt a big lesson how messed up and how far and dishonest the mechanics are willing to go just for a little bit of money ...
he disconnected the cable on top of every coil pack to check if the engine ran any rougher...apparently 1 coil pack ,cable disconnection did not make any difference..so the mechanic told me it was the PCN COMPUTER THAT HAD TO BE REPLACED AND AN ESTIMATE FOR $700 ........when i came back and checked the coil pack my self..after pulling out the coil pack i noticed THE FIRST MECHANIC STUCK A PIECE OF PAPER INSIDE MY COIL PACK..which made me get all the random misfire codes and the car ran rough...after replacing the paper...the coil had been damaged so i used one of my old ones...and it run beautiful now..!!! end of my nightmare....and learnt a big lesson how messed up and how far and dishonest the mechanics are willing to go just for a little bit of money ...
http://us.bbb.org/WWWRoot/SitePage.a...7-df71ecfda32e
And sue the owner or the place.
10-31-2007, 01:02 AM
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What an Asshole, I'd Totally go back and shove a wrench up his ass to see how well he can walk for the rest of the week.
Well I guess I'm over doing it there, but I really hate it when people are dishonest and try to screw things up for you.
Anyways, I'm glad you've diagnosed the problem. Your next step is the give that guy a little surpise.............
Well I guess I'm over doing it there, but I really hate it when people are dishonest and try to screw things up for you.
Anyways, I'm glad you've diagnosed the problem. Your next step is the give that guy a little surpise.............
10-31-2007, 02:03 AM
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S E L L
Originally Posted by 555acuratl
its the
GETTY GAS STATION/ AUTO CHOP SHOP
NOTE SURE ABOUT THE EXACT NUMBER ...
SOMETHING LIKE
1600 FRONT STREET
EAST MEADOW , NY , 11554
OPPOSITE TO EAST MEADOW FIRE STATION / NEAR PATHMARK SHOPPING CENTER...
GETTY GAS STATION/ AUTO CHOP SHOP
NOTE SURE ABOUT THE EXACT NUMBER ...
SOMETHING LIKE
1600 FRONT STREET
EAST MEADOW , NY , 11554
OPPOSITE TO EAST MEADOW FIRE STATION / NEAR PATHMARK SHOPPING CENTER...
10-31-2007, 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Rsoetidjo
Report it to better business bureau.
http://us.bbb.org/WWWRoot/SitePage.a...7-df71ecfda32e
And sue the owner or the place.
http://us.bbb.org/WWWRoot/SitePage.a...7-df71ecfda32e
And sue the owner or the place.
.. legal assbeating and self defense as a excuse is great! now screw your balls on and go kick his ass!
10-31-2007, 04:00 AM
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well i know i kind of learned it the hard way.....well i didnt pay him anything at all cause when i refused to pay him $400 , he had my car opened up , meaning my intake box and everything...he didnt even put it back up...he just closed it wherever did his thing with the engine sticking a paper inside the coil pack and closed the hood the way it is...while on the driver side the hood was a little bit lifted...i opened the hood and rearranged everything myself and closed it properly.....whatever im done with grimy cheating and fraud mechanics...thanks alot for all your support and feedbacks...but i did learn my lesson...
10-31-2007, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jdmua5inspire
yo dude i had the same problem i had 2 misfire then i replaced the sparks with ngk and whne i was tightin them i didnt tighen with till i couldnt tighen ti no more , so i didnt get the full power too, but after i tighen it up some more it ran like it was no joke!! so try tighen them till u cant tighen it anymore and see whats up...!
You are a very nautty boy for saying something like that
BTW u misspelled tighten 6 times in those two lines
10-31-2007, 11:53 AM
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555 you need to take action with the legal forces
Prevent someone else from getting the same treatment
Most every aziner knows to come here after any diagnosis and get it confirmed
The paper in the thing and not reassembled correctly- thats bad-
I was in the industry as an honest guy-
call the law!!!!
Prevent someone else from getting the same treatment
Most every aziner knows to come here after any diagnosis and get it confirmed
The paper in the thing and not reassembled correctly- thats bad-
I was in the industry as an honest guy-
call the law!!!!
11-01-2007, 07:06 AM
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Yeah just kidding. I HATE shady mechanics. My dad paid a purrfect auto over here like 2500 to fix his car and the damn thing never ran at all after that. He ended up having to give it away.
11-01-2007, 10:09 AM
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Hence why i do EVERY THING myself!