Can death really occur from changing my headlights?

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Old 01-28-2010, 11:56 AM
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Can death really occur from changing my headlights?

This sounds ridiculous, I know, but it does mention that "death could occur" on the bulb housing. I bought an 02 Type-S in the summer and was shocked when the dealer quoted me $150 to replace the bulb. I've read numerous threads on here and it's obviously a simple task to replace the bulbs. I've read the DIY threads and I haven't found one that mentioned getting shocked. Which leads me to believe that it never happens. But that label is on there for some reason.

What I'm wondering is...does anyone know the exact thing that I would have to do to get shocked by the 25000 volts that is on the headlight warning label? I want to be sure that I don't even come close to popping anything.

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanx, Matt
Old 01-28-2010, 12:13 PM
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They have to put the warning label on there....Think about the lawsuit they would have to deal with if somebody got shocked and there was no warning label.
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its called an idiot sticker.

its for people who somehow mangage to harm/kill themselves on everyday objects that to a normal person, arent dangerous at all.

and yes, to avoid lawsuits.
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Its a very high voltage system, yes if you are stupid and do it with the power on and touch the contacts you can get shocked.

Also ALWAYS replace the bulbs in pairs.
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I wasn't really counting on actually dying or anything. I agree, I figured a lawyer had something to do with that sticker.

My biggest worry was accidentally touching something I'm not supposed to and frying out the ballast or something. Then I really will have to spend hundreds of dollars to fix.

"Its a very high voltage system, yes if you are stupid and do it with the power on and touch the contacts you can get shocked."
Does that mean literally unhooking the battery...or just make sure the key is off and the headlights are off? Just makin sure, no assumptions.
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just disconnect the battery to avoid all danger to you and the parts..

i usually do.
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Key off lights off. There is nothing to worry about if you have a shred of common sense. If you do its really no different than changing a regular headlight. Look in the diy thread, there is a diy with pics
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Originally Posted by Rockstar21
just disconnect the battery to avoid all danger to you and the parts..

i usually do.
Just remember if you do this (which isnt necessary) to have the radio code and navi code. and if you have an 03 (i think the 02 needs one as well)you have to do the idle relearn.
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Thanks for the replys. I didn't want to make any false assumptions. I learned after my 99 BMW that these forums are priceless.

Have a good one, thanx
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Just remember if you do this (which isnt necessary) to have the radio code and navi code. and if you have an 03 (i think the 02 needs one as well)you have to do the idle relearn.
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Rofl@thread title.
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Rofl@thread title.
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it's labeling so douchebags don't find ways to sue companies, but in this case the family of the person who gets killed trying to replace a bulb would be doing the suing
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Just remember if you do this (which isnt necessary) to have the radio code and navi code. and if you have an 03 (i think the 02 needs one as well)you have to do the idle relearn.
99 and up all require radio codes.

And it's the igniting of the bulbs that produces the most voltage. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 20,000 volts.

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Originally Posted by NSXNEXT
99 and up all require radio codes.

And it's the igniting of the bulbs that produces the most voltage. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 20,000 volts.
honda has required radio codes on some of their radios all the way since 1990 (or so) at least on the ones installed in acura's and the top-of-the line- accords (so EX)


and 20,000 is nothing, when it has no amperage to back it up, but you add some amperage behind that voltage and you got :sparky:
btw: ignition coils can also produce that voltage easily too, but don't quite have the same kick/amperage behind them though
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there is significant voltage residual in the capacitor/ballast that requires time to bleed off
It CAN kill you without a doubt- if not given proper respect

Thats true of anything electrical- stick a metal pin into the house 110 and get a severe awakening~

dont work on HID lights right after they have been operating, wait at least a few hours (disclaimer-risk own life in choice, I'd wait overnight)

Safest way to replace the bulbs is the night before disconnect battery NEG cable.
AND always wear rubber or latex gloves when handling bulbs, your fingers have oil that will cause a burn spot and shorten bulb life by years

If you do touch the glass- wipe it clean with rubbing alcohol
Make sure the bulb goes in exactly the way old one came out- the external wire up or down- i dont recall which way--- recent changers- which way is it?

the front bumper cover removes in a few minutes and is easy access to pull the entire headlight housing with a few bolts..compared to moving stuff to work on them from behind, in the blind trying to get the wire arm attached to secure the bulb
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
there is significant voltage residual in the capacitor/ballast that requires time to bleed off
It CAN kill you without a doubt- if not given proper respect

Thats true of anything electrical- stick a metal pin into the house 110 and get a severe awakening~

dont work on HID lights right after they have been operating, wait at least a few hours (disclaimer-risk own life in choice, I'd wait overnight)

Safest way to replace the bulbs is the night before disconnect battery NEG cable.
AND always wear rubber or latex gloves when handling bulbs, your fingers have oil that will cause a burn spot and shorten bulb life by years

If you do touch the glass- wipe it clean with rubbing alcohol
Make sure the bulb goes in exactly the way old one came out- the external wire up or down- i dont recall which way--- recent changers- which way is it?

the front bumper cover removes in a few minutes and is easy access to pull the entire housing with a few bolts..compared to moving stuff to work on them from behind, in the blind trying to get the wire arm attached to secure the bulb
WTF are you talking about , no external wire on ours, the "ground" strap is integrated with the base mounting point on the reflecter itself

also the biggest hassle with changing them out yourself is the tamper resistent torx screw they put in, but easily fixed and removed with a dremal (still easier when you got the proper tool, but not necessary on this application)
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I cant believe I clicked on this tread, I feel like I have to post. Its on there like how hot coffee is and needs a label on cups. Just common sense, as stated above and you wont die
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Originally Posted by fobstylez
I cant believe I clicked on this tread, I feel like I have to post. Its on there like how hot coffee is and needs a label on cups. Just common sense, as stated above and you wont die
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my 01 does indeed have external shrouded wire on the bulb itself
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That's just a retaining wire though right?
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umm I think its a ground, since its a wire with a white ceramic type tube covering that moves slightly along the wire- does not attach or touch the wire- just protects it
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:shakehead, i did not mean on the bulb itself (or inside the reflecter), but the retaining clip for the bulb, that holds it against the reflecter housing, with the wire attached to that
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Originally Posted by NSXNEXT
99 and up all require radio codes.

And it's the igniting of the bulbs that produces the most voltage. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 20,000 volts.
Yep all TLs require the radio code, i was referring to the 02-03 needing the idle learn procedure if you un-hook the radio
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I've tried searching for the DIY for the HID bulb replacement on a 2nd Gen TL, can anyone post the link please?
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Its in the DIY thread
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tl-1999-2003-98/new-official-2nd-gen-tl-diy-thread-706083/

Link to changing the bulb
https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...24&postcount=2
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