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Old 08-11-2012, 03:19 PM
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Best bang for my buck when its come to exhaust

Time to keep you guys busy with some more questions!

Acura TL 1999

First I had the resonator removed. Then I installed an AEM CAI v2. Looking to get a little more sound. My next step was to go ahead with a $50.00 mid-muffler delete. After going to the shop today, I was convinced that removing the cat would be a better idea for the same price and to keep the mid-muffler.. More power gains, and better sound all the way through. I was also told they would put on flowmasters for an extra $120.00 I am assuming this would replace the mid-muffler correct?

So all this got me thinking, and researching because I am new to this (but willing to learn). What is the best bang for my buck? I want to add a little bit of a deep sound. Nothing high pitch like a ricer, put something similar to what I hear when with the new CAI at high rpms, at lower rpms. And if there are performance gains than that is even better. But I am not banking on much performance gains because I know I am not shelling out enough money for it.

Would removing the cat just cause more issues (inspection, CEL, etc)? Any suggestions?

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Old 08-11-2012, 07:05 PM
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Removing the cat will undoubtebly cause other issues. I'm a bit confused as to why you want to cut up everything to delete and add things. Your best bet would be to get a complete "cat-back" performance system for your car. That essentially leaves the cat in place, then a pipe runs straight back to a "Y" where two free-flow mufflers and tailpipes would exit the rear, similar to the stock set up.....but without the mid-muffler resonator. This is an easy DIY install, using the existing connector points.
Old 08-11-2012, 10:32 PM
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You xan remove the cat without having any problems if you get a dumby o2 sensor
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Originally Posted by 3.2TLc
Removing the cat will undoubtebly cause other issues. I'm a bit confused as to why you want to cut up everything to delete and add things. Your best bet would be to get a complete "cat-back" performance system for your car. That essentially leaves the cat in place, then a pipe runs straight back to a "Y" where two free-flow mufflers and tailpipes would exit the rear, similar to the stock set up.....but without the mid-muffler resonator. This is an easy DIY install, using the existing connector points.

What are two free-flow mufflers that would be inexpensive? Is there a DIY on this, I didn't see it on the list.

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Old 08-13-2012, 02:43 PM
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Edit: I realize their are comptech, tanabe, atlp, etc but are Tsudo's usually the least expensive at about $280? It is a large jump from the $60 mid muffler delete project I was expecting. If $280 is going to the next mod, how much would headers be, and would this be a better substitute for the amount of performance gain?
Old 08-13-2012, 03:11 PM
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The cat is not restrictive (As long as incorrect air/fuel mixtures don't contaminate it).
The biggest issue is flow out of the heads, exhaust manifold and a-pipe (where the front and rear cylinders join).
The stock system while very quiet flows more than the engine can pump. A cat back system will help by moving the torque curve around along with the sound but power increase?
Minimal.
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Headers will give you the biggest gain in HP. It's been awhile - but I remember when people were running ~$300 eBay headers. Without ghettoing out your car (i.e. catless) mid-muffler and resonator is what you can do - outside of getting new mufflers. I deleted the resonator and mid-muffler and then installed Comptech axle-backs. The drone was horrible. The next day I bought a Magnaflow resonator and had that installed. Go to your local muffler shop and see how much. Should be about $500 for a custom catback system - they may already have a template for the piping if they've done a TL before - so it may be cheaper.
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Mufflers are easy to do, you don't need a DIY. Just unbolt them and release them from their hangers. You may need to spray the rubber hangers with some WD-40 to loosen their grip seeing as theyre old. Then just install the new ones. Make sure to clean all the old gasket material off the old B-pipe. A far as best bang for the buck I'd say get some headers. By far they have given me the most noticeable gains so far.
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It seems as if one would want to get headers before/instead of mufflers if the price is comparable, correct? If not, why?

What is my best bang/buck for headers? Any specific brand/type for an affordable set?
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DC Sports headers are what a lot of people went with. Search around for the best price. There's a few places who sell them in the 330-380 range mostly w free shipping.
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