Acura = Lexus!
03-06-2001, 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by hunter001:
Things I like about the IS300:
Good build quality
RWD (excellent handling in the dry)
Compact and light (handles like a go-kart)
Things I dislike:
Taillights (IMHO, Lexus should not have put that junk into an otherwise good design. Yuck!!!)
Boy racer, cheap looking interior (When you go after the 3-series, why not adopt the philosophy of the 3-series in totality ?)
Miserable mileage (2 friends of mine average less than 20mpg, which is disgraceful for a sub-compact).
Hopefully, knowing Lexus, the next version should have a better full-leather interior along with other badly needed interior improvements....auto-dimming mirrors certainly wouldn't hurt, an arm-rest in the center would certainly help....others may not agree, but I would certainly want to have a Navigation system in the car (after driving a car with the NAV system, I will not purchase another car without one).
just my 2c
Things I like about the IS300:
Good build quality
RWD (excellent handling in the dry)
Compact and light (handles like a go-kart)
Things I dislike:
Taillights (IMHO, Lexus should not have put that junk into an otherwise good design. Yuck!!!)
Boy racer, cheap looking interior (When you go after the 3-series, why not adopt the philosophy of the 3-series in totality ?)
Miserable mileage (2 friends of mine average less than 20mpg, which is disgraceful for a sub-compact).
Hopefully, knowing Lexus, the next version should have a better full-leather interior along with other badly needed interior improvements....auto-dimming mirrors certainly wouldn't hurt, an arm-rest in the center would certainly help....others may not agree, but I would certainly want to have a Navigation system in the car (after driving a car with the NAV system, I will not purchase another car without one).
just my 2c
lexus is not out to imitate the 3series, but compete with it. the interior resembles some what of a ferrari (laugh all you want, countless magazines have admitted). the suede seats which is also offered in the alpine lambo, the shift knobs/pedals/door sill which are like audi, ferraris, etc. but, the matter of you liking it or not is totally up to you. to each his own.
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03-06-2001, 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by Lexus_IS300:
lexus is not out to imitate the 3series, but compete with it. the interior resembles some what of a ferrari (laugh all you want, countless magazines have admitted). the suede seats which is also offered in the alpine lambo, the shift knobs/pedals/door sill which are like audi, ferraris, etc. but, the matter of you liking it or not is totally up to you. to each his own.
lexus is not out to imitate the 3series, but compete with it. the interior resembles some what of a ferrari (laugh all you want, countless magazines have admitted). the suede seats which is also offered in the alpine lambo, the shift knobs/pedals/door sill which are like audi, ferraris, etc. but, the matter of you liking it or not is totally up to you. to each his own.
My take is that Lexus tried to attract a younger crowd into its dealerships with the IS series (by introducing boy-racer styling elements), since the average age of a Lexus customer was going way up in years....which was not good for the company, in the long haul. But Lexus miscalculated badly and did not factor in the fact that younger crowd = low on money. Very few of the young fellows (for whom the styling statements of the IS300 would appeal to) can afford a car that stickers over 30G.....few, if any, traditional Lexus customers find the styling of the IS300 appealing (I am specifically referring to the tail-lights and the Interior-Ferrari-like or otherwise).....but if Lexus had put in traditional tail-lights on the IS with interiors that are classy, yet wonderfully functional and purposeful, I would certainly have lined up for one (would have purchased one for cash, too)...assuming it came with a Navigation system and the mileage could have been bettered...
But carmakers like Lexus, do not make many mistakes, and if they do make mistakes, rarely do they repeat them. I would bet that Lexus would make a lot of changes (more in line with classy competitive products from other luxury automakers), in the IS series over the next couple of years...
just my 2c
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03-06-2001, 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by hunter001:
I am not too sure about the seats being Ferrari-like....
My take is that Lexus tried to attract a younger crowd into its dealerships with the IS series (by introducing boy-racer styling elements), since the average age of a Lexus customer was going way up in years....which was not good for the company, in the long haul. But Lexus miscalculated badly and did not factor in the fact that younger crowd = low on money. Very few of the young fellows (for whom the styling statements of the IS300 would appeal to) can afford a car that stickers over 30G.....few, if any, traditional Lexus customers find the styling of the IS300 appealing (I am specifically referring to the tail-lights and the Interior-Ferrari-like or otherwise).....but if Lexus had put in traditional tail-lights on the IS with interiors that are classy, yet wonderfully functional and purposeful, I would certainly have lined up for one (would have purchased one for cash, too)...assuming it came with a Navigation system and the mileage could have been bettered...
But carmakers like Lexus, do not make many mistakes, and if they do make mistakes, rarely do they repeat them. I would bet that Lexus would make a lot of changes (more in line with classy competitive products from other luxury automakers), in the IS series over the next couple of years...
just my 2c
I am not too sure about the seats being Ferrari-like....
My take is that Lexus tried to attract a younger crowd into its dealerships with the IS series (by introducing boy-racer styling elements), since the average age of a Lexus customer was going way up in years....which was not good for the company, in the long haul. But Lexus miscalculated badly and did not factor in the fact that younger crowd = low on money. Very few of the young fellows (for whom the styling statements of the IS300 would appeal to) can afford a car that stickers over 30G.....few, if any, traditional Lexus customers find the styling of the IS300 appealing (I am specifically referring to the tail-lights and the Interior-Ferrari-like or otherwise).....but if Lexus had put in traditional tail-lights on the IS with interiors that are classy, yet wonderfully functional and purposeful, I would certainly have lined up for one (would have purchased one for cash, too)...assuming it came with a Navigation system and the mileage could have been bettered...
But carmakers like Lexus, do not make many mistakes, and if they do make mistakes, rarely do they repeat them. I would bet that Lexus would make a lot of changes (more in line with classy competitive products from other luxury automakers), in the IS series over the next couple of years...
just my 2c
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03-06-2001, 10:57 PM
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Isn't the TL based on the accord?? I know its supposed to be the old vigor, but it REALLY looks like a 4dr. accord.
I used to want a TL, and when i saw an accord from far away... my eyes would brighten thinking it was a TL... but then i would kick myself in the ass for thinking this great car i was going to get could be confused with a lowly accord....
oh well......
I used to want a TL, and when i saw an accord from far away... my eyes would brighten thinking it was a TL... but then i would kick myself in the ass for thinking this great car i was going to get could be confused with a lowly accord....
oh well......
03-06-2001, 11:11 PM
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Originally posted by MSMLexIS300:
Well said spark plug boy
What was that again?[/B]
Well said spark plug boy
What was that again?[/B]
... Oh wait a minute, you wouldn't even get that close to my cars rear 
... Why don't you try to downshift on me and beat me like you did that imaginary TL in Jax 
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Originally posted by ugen78:
I think we should all stop dissing UW TL, he's just telling his story, how girls think that Acura is up there with Lexus. Probably cause the TL is so Lux, which is a compliment to all our TL's...
I think we should all stop dissing UW TL, he's just telling his story, how girls think that Acura is up there with Lexus. Probably cause the TL is so Lux, which is a compliment to all our TL's...
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