Will the rear wheels fit?
08-16-2016, 07:55 AM
#1
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Will the rear wheels fit?
Iam going to pick up a set of rims today. They are a set of Niche Targas and the front are 20 x 8.5 with a 35mm offset and the rears are 20 x 10.5 with the same offset. They are 5 x 120 of course. I know the fronts will fit for sure but ama little concerned about the 10.5 width in the rear. Is this going to be a problem?I have a 2008 Acura RL
08-16-2016, 08:01 AM
#2
yo, not trying to be a dick.....
but why would you hand over your hard earned cash without knowing if they fit?
you will need to work your fenders via roll and pull. if you are not dropped, you might be okay....might. thats very aggressive and you're probably going to have to run a stretched tire
but why would you hand over your hard earned cash without knowing if they fit?
you will need to work your fenders via roll and pull. if you are not dropped, you might be okay....might. thats very aggressive and you're probably going to have to run a stretched tire
08-16-2016, 08:14 AM
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yo, not trying to be a dick.....
but why would you hand over your hard earned cash without knowing if they fit?
you will need to work your fenders via roll and pull. if you are not dropped, you might be okay....might. thats very aggressive and you're probably going to have to run a stretched tire
but why would you hand over your hard earned cash without knowing if they fit?
you will need to work your fenders via roll and pull. if you are not dropped, you might be okay....might. thats very aggressive and you're probably going to have to run a stretched tire
08-16-2016, 08:22 AM
#4
no one can give you DIRECT advice, because each persons set up is different and will have different ways of achieving their goal.
you're going to want to dry test fit them before you purchase. this means putting the barrel on your car if the shop will allow you too.
if you cannot do this, get a less aggressive set.
AT THE VERY minimum you're going to want to roll and pull. but since every ones set up is different, YOU might have OTHER things going on and the only way to solve them is to assess them as they come.
you're going to want to dry test fit them before you purchase. this means putting the barrel on your car if the shop will allow you too.
if you cannot do this, get a less aggressive set.
AT THE VERY minimum you're going to want to roll and pull. but since every ones set up is different, YOU might have OTHER things going on and the only way to solve them is to assess them as they come.
08-16-2016, 08:24 AM
#5
for example, when i put my very aggressive set on, my tires rubbed and rolled the fenders for me.
and the fenders started to cut up my tires.
I assessed what was going on and chose the appopriate actions to rectify the issues.
which was to pull and roll fenders, cut fender tab, running stretched tire, raised the car up a little.
you might or might not have these problems and the only way to find out is to try
and the fenders started to cut up my tires.
I assessed what was going on and chose the appopriate actions to rectify the issues.
which was to pull and roll fenders, cut fender tab, running stretched tire, raised the car up a little.
you might or might not have these problems and the only way to find out is to try
08-16-2016, 08:36 AM
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for example, when i put my very aggressive set on, my tires rubbed and rolled the fenders for me.
and the fenders started to cut up my tires.
I assessed what was going on and chose the appopriate actions to rectify the issues.
which was to pull and roll fenders, cut fender tab, running stretched tire, raised the car up a little.
you might or might not have these problems and the only way to find out is to try
and the fenders started to cut up my tires.
I assessed what was going on and chose the appopriate actions to rectify the issues.
which was to pull and roll fenders, cut fender tab, running stretched tire, raised the car up a little.
you might or might not have these problems and the only way to find out is to try
I don't want to have all those problems so I think 19s are the easier option that I'll go with
08-16-2016, 08:38 AM
#7
if you're going for 19x10.5 +35 you'll have the same problems.....
you need to wait and research and test fit and study more before you blow a lot of money..
AGAIN, each set up is different and you wont know what problems you'll run into UNTIL you try
if you have NO intentions of doing any of this sort of "work" to get aggressive wheels to fit, then you're better off getting a set that mimmics stock set up, weak ass x8.5 +45
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08-16-2016, 08:57 AM
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the diameter is not what makes it aggressive. the width and offset have a play in it too.
if you're going for 19x10.5 +35 you'll have the same problems.....
you need to wait and research and test fit and study more before you blow a lot of money..
AGAIN, each set up is different and you wont know what problems you'll run into UNTIL you try
if you have NO intentions of doing any of this sort of "work" to get aggressive wheels to fit, then you're better off getting a set that mimmics stock set up, weak ass x8.5 +45
if you're going for 19x10.5 +35 you'll have the same problems.....
you need to wait and research and test fit and study more before you blow a lot of money..
AGAIN, each set up is different and you wont know what problems you'll run into UNTIL you try
if you have NO intentions of doing any of this sort of "work" to get aggressive wheels to fit, then you're better off getting a set that mimmics stock set up, weak ass x8.5 +45
08-16-2016, 09:16 AM
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Looks good, Im going to go test fit them and go from there. If I have to roll the fenders I don't mind. I'll hopefully have pics later on!! ... As far as a tire suggestion, I want to fit a tire that rides with as much comfort as possible, would 255/35/20 in the front and 275/35/20 in the rear be good?
08-16-2016, 09:19 AM
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comfort + 20 " rims.....
08-16-2016, 09:30 AM
#12
Looks good, Im going to go test fit them and go from there. If I have to roll the fenders I don't mind. I'll hopefully have pics later on!! ... As far as a tire suggestion, I want to fit a tire that rides with as much comfort as possible, would 255/35/20 in the front and 275/35/20 in the rear be good?
or your speedometer will be off.
head to an online tire calculator website! My favorite one is from 1010tires.com
Tire Size Calculator - Tire & Wheel Plus Sizing
input OEM tire size, then enter in Aftermarket tire size! the calculator WILL show you if the tire is greater or less than 3% of the OEM tire... and will show you by how much speedometer will be off by
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08-16-2016, 09:31 AM
#13
it seems as if you are rushing. Dont rush.
it took me 5 years to figure out specs and what I really wanted, as $2k-3k is expensive and I DIDNT want to waste my money on shitty specs, shitty tires, etc.
research research research.
please dont pull the trigger on the very first set you see.
it took me 5 years to figure out specs and what I really wanted, as $2k-3k is expensive and I DIDNT want to waste my money on shitty specs, shitty tires, etc.
research research research.
please dont pull the trigger on the very first set you see.
08-16-2016, 09:35 AM
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I just have never selected tires before. I have been contemplating the wheel for about 6 months now, however I never looked into the tire size and offset issue. I would like to get the best possible ride quality out of the 20 inch rims as possible.
08-16-2016, 10:02 AM
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I am jsut assuming due to past experience. I had a 2006 dodge ram 2500 that i lifted 12 inches and put 41inch tires on with 22inch rims and they hooked up a programmer to the under dash and simply entered the new tire size in to adjust the spedometer. They did it at the dealership. Why can't they do that at Acura? ( i know youre trying to help and im trying to learn )
08-16-2016, 10:11 AM
#19
while there is likely a tool (Honda programmer, but Ive never seen a dealership do this) the PROPER way is to size your tires CORRECTLY.
remember, the Honda engineers spent a lot of time dialing in your cars suspension. it is VERY special. you do not want to change the aspects too much, or you'll end up DESTROYING the handling.
it is one of the last SH-AWD double wishbone suspension set ups.
with a truck, you're not carving out winding roads. with a truck, its okay to go off the beaten path. with a truck, more clearance is better, etc.
remember, the Honda engineers spent a lot of time dialing in your cars suspension. it is VERY special. you do not want to change the aspects too much, or you'll end up DESTROYING the handling.
it is one of the last SH-AWD double wishbone suspension set ups.
with a truck, you're not carving out winding roads. with a truck, its okay to go off the beaten path. with a truck, more clearance is better, etc.
08-16-2016, 10:22 AM
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So much fucking 
.
Staggered wheels on a FWD car is weak. Your tires determine your diameter, not your wheels. The larger the wheel, the less comfort you will have.
1) Clear the BBK.
2) Get 9" wide on all corners.
3) Size your tires to stock diameter.
.Staggered wheels on a FWD car is weak. Your tires determine your diameter, not your wheels. The larger the wheel, the less comfort you will have.
1) Clear the BBK.
2) Get 9" wide on all corners.
3) Size your tires to stock diameter.
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08-16-2016, 10:23 AM
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while there is likely a tool (Honda programmer, but Ive never seen a dealership do this) the PROPER way is to size your tires CORRECTLY.
remember, the Honda engineers spent a lot of time dialing in your cars suspension. it is VERY special. you do not want to change the aspects too much, or you'll end up DESTROYING the handling.
it is one of the last SH-AWD double wishbone suspension set ups.
with a truck, you're not carving out winding roads. with a truck, its okay to go off the beaten path. with a truck, more clearance is better, etc.
remember, the Honda engineers spent a lot of time dialing in your cars suspension. it is VERY special. you do not want to change the aspects too much, or you'll end up DESTROYING the handling.
it is one of the last SH-AWD double wishbone suspension set ups.
with a truck, you're not carving out winding roads. with a truck, its okay to go off the beaten path. with a truck, more clearance is better, etc.
The owner of the wheels is helping me also. He said that he had 285/35/20 in the rear and 255/35/20 in the front. +35mm offset on both
08-16-2016, 10:24 AM
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Im getting kinda confused. lol. He has a TL so maybe the info he has is contradicting since mine is AWD? Im not sure but as far as staggered wheels on an AWD car... is that bad? When i first thought about it I thought a square stance woudl be ideal but I also LOVE LOVE LOVE how the wheels look on the rims owners car.. I will attach a picture
08-16-2016, 10:27 AM
#24
I absolutely agree. So in order to preserve as close as to factory as possible. What would be the ideal tires size in the front and rear? I mean right now i have 255/50/17 so when i go to 20"s, what number do I want to keep the same? ( im learning lol )
The owner of the wheels is helping me also. He said that he had 285/35/20 in the rear and 255/35/20 in the front. +35mm offset on both
The owner of the wheels is helping me also. He said that he had 285/35/20 in the rear and 255/35/20 in the front. +35mm offset on both
08-16-2016, 10:40 AM
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Yeah that's what I'm going to do.I read that negative offset may upset the stock suspension design but positive offset that is within 20mm of standard is not to harsh at all
08-16-2016, 01:00 PM
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08-16-2016, 01:06 PM
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It's a shame there isn't a concise place to read and learn all this information without piecemeal question asking.
08-16-2016, 01:10 PM
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08-16-2016, 01:26 PM
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OP, if you missed the link, you calculate tire size here: Tire Size Calculator - Tire & Wheel Plus Sizing
Yes your car is AWD however it is heavily FWD biased. Straight line acceleration is almost all FWD, and a staggered setup will only slow that down. You *might* gain some traction in a slalom, but overall, a staggered setup is more likely to decrease performance than increase it. Furthermore, you can damage the transfer case if your tire diameters are off. You will need to spec your front and rear tires to within 1% of each other.
08-16-2016, 03:19 PM
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Yes. Such a shame.
OP, if you missed the link, you calculate tire size here: Tire Size Calculator - Tire & Wheel Plus Sizing
Yes your car is AWD however it is heavily FWD biased. Straight line acceleration is almost all FWD, and a staggered setup will only slow that down. You *might* gain some traction in a slalom, but overall, a staggered setup is more likely to decrease performance than increase it. Furthermore, you can damage the transfer case if your tire diameters are off. You will need to spec your front and rear tires to within 1% of each other.
OP, if you missed the link, you calculate tire size here: Tire Size Calculator - Tire & Wheel Plus Sizing
Yes your car is AWD however it is heavily FWD biased. Straight line acceleration is almost all FWD, and a staggered setup will only slow that down. You *might* gain some traction in a slalom, but overall, a staggered setup is more likely to decrease performance than increase it. Furthermore, you can damage the transfer case if your tire diameters are off. You will need to spec your front and rear tires to within 1% of each other.
08-16-2016, 03:24 PM
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Everyone's gotta learn sometime. I've never put 20's on a sedan before and want to ask a few questions. I'm sorry it bothered you but also at the same time, you don't need to read this if you aren't going to help with the topic. I'm getting alot of useful information and find it very helpful so please don't bring that negative trolling to this thread. Thanks
08-16-2016, 03:26 PM
#36
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I found a site that has the adapters, is there a certain diameter or measurement from the BMW to the Acura I should need? I find this sort of confusing because im not familiar with the parts at all
08-16-2016, 03:43 PM
#37
lmfao
I dont mean to be a prick but you clearly don't know what wheel/tire you need let a shop figure it out for you.
Ive seen enough times people with no clue try to get info from others in a forum and without all the info directly in front of us you could end up with a wheel that barely doesnt fit somewhere and none of us know because we dont have your car sitting in front of us.
Take your car to a reputable tire shop you like. Show them the wheels you want and have them order them for you. This way they can quality check them when they arrive and you dont void any warranty you may get with a brand new sit of wheels. They will also know exactly what size you can run and if you need rings or not.
I dont mean to be a prick but you clearly don't know what wheel/tire you need let a shop figure it out for you.
Ive seen enough times people with no clue try to get info from others in a forum and without all the info directly in front of us you could end up with a wheel that barely doesnt fit somewhere and none of us know because we dont have your car sitting in front of us.
Take your car to a reputable tire shop you like. Show them the wheels you want and have them order them for you. This way they can quality check them when they arrive and you dont void any warranty you may get with a brand new sit of wheels. They will also know exactly what size you can run and if you need rings or not.
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08-16-2016, 04:12 PM
#38
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lmfao
I dont mean to be a prick but you clearly don't know what wheel/tire you need let a shop figure it out for you.
Ive seen enough times people with no clue try to get info from others in a forum and without all the info directly in front of us you could end up with a wheel that barely doesnt fit somewhere and none of us know because we dont have your car sitting in front of us.
Take your car to a reputable tire shop you like. Show them the wheels you want and have them order them for you. This way they can quality check them when they arrive and you dont void any warranty you may get with a brand new sit of wheels. They will also know exactly what size you can run and if you need rings or not.
I dont mean to be a prick but you clearly don't know what wheel/tire you need let a shop figure it out for you.
Ive seen enough times people with no clue try to get info from others in a forum and without all the info directly in front of us you could end up with a wheel that barely doesnt fit somewhere and none of us know because we dont have your car sitting in front of us.
Take your car to a reputable tire shop you like. Show them the wheels you want and have them order them for you. This way they can quality check them when they arrive and you dont void any warranty you may get with a brand new sit of wheels. They will also know exactly what size you can run and if you need rings or not.
You're right, i have no idea lol that's why I asked the question... I wouldn't have asked the question if I knew the answer or knew what I was talking about lol. I am just going to get the wheels and take them to a shop as well.
08-16-2016, 05:16 PM
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You can fit a 20" by 15" wide wheel if you wanted to. It just depends on how much work and money you want to put in to make it fit.
You've already been told, you're going with an aggressive size and will likely have to do some modifications. Your car on stock ride height and 20" rims will look kind of dumb. It's called being a baller on a budget, and it simply won't look good with the size of fender gap your car has, stock.
If you're going to lower it, you will have issues, one way or another. Can you get around them? Likely yes.
Most people on here don't use such big wheels. You lose a lot of power (more weight for the engine to turn), you lose comfort (rubber band thick tires are not exactly forgiving), you get worse fuel economy (again, more for the engine to spin), etc., etc., etc.
You've already been told, you're going with an aggressive size and will likely have to do some modifications. Your car on stock ride height and 20" rims will look kind of dumb. It's called being a baller on a budget, and it simply won't look good with the size of fender gap your car has, stock.
If you're going to lower it, you will have issues, one way or another. Can you get around them? Likely yes.
Most people on here don't use such big wheels. You lose a lot of power (more weight for the engine to turn), you lose comfort (rubber band thick tires are not exactly forgiving), you get worse fuel economy (again, more for the engine to spin), etc., etc., etc.