kamakaro

Hi guys I have been begging Swift to make me a set of springs for my 09 RL and they finally said they will work on a prototype if i can gather enough interest for at least 10 sets of springs. If you don't know who swift is, these guys make arguably the best springs in the world that are used by professional racing teams all over the world from Nascar to JGTC 500 in Japan. The company is a Japanese company so you can expect the best of the best. I basically wanted to gauge some interest and feed back from this community, specially the RL since is the one with the least Aftermarket support.

If you guys think H&R & eibach are good springs wait till you feel Swift springs with Variable active rates. Here's a link if you want to get more background from the company swift.

http://swiftsprings.com/index.html

Please let me know what you guys think!

oo7spy

We need a price estimate. Jacob King tried this with Megan Coilovers and got about 6 people on board. Not to bum you out, but it fell through. I'm interested, but need a price range.

kamakaro

Retail will be $400-$420 but we will be able to get them for $280-300 shipped.

oo7spy

Any idea on the drop height?

Carbon Legend

i would rather see Eibach/Tein Make a spring for the car.

kamakaro

I'll can't say for sure but swift it's not known for having the lowest drop but rather keep it functional and build the springs around our shock's valving specs tolerance that way we will be ensured maximum shock/strut life. But If i have to guess, I'd say it won't be more than 1" all around, which IMO will be perfect.

LSM LEGEND,
With all due respect, you obviously don't know or never heard of swift and not that expect everyone to know who they are, but fact of the matter is that you can not compared tein or eibach springs to swift springs, People on the daily basis replace their tein coilovers springs for swifts lol. Take from someone who has experience every spring out there. Nothing compares to Swifts. BTW tein are the shittiest springs you can buy from my personal experience.

oo7spy

But if none of my friends have heard of that brand, how will they know I have a sweet ride?

kamakaro

Hahaha Basically what he meant.

kamakaro

Here's a couple of informative threads that explain why swift is superior to anything out there. Read up if you have time.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=778203

http://www.northamericanmotoring.com...gs-dynoed.html

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/8137...bach-or-swift/

sleepinxlionhart

Interesting...if only they made coilovers. Now, would these be made for stock struts or aspec?

kamakaro

They would be for the stock struts.

fatty

I have had swift springs in my sold s2k. It is one of the best springs out there. Too bad I already have the tein comforts already or I would be in.

23109VC

why not just get H&Rs??? ... they are already made for the RL....

oo7spy

I bet his response will be two fold: better quality and progressive spring rates.

However, I have a question about progressive spring rates. I understand that the springs get stiffer as they are compressed, and that is all fine and dandy for cornering. However, if I hit a bump, pot hole, or any other road imperfection, won't my springs get stiffer as they are compressed? Will this make the bump bone jarring? My favorite aspect of the RL suspension is that when I hit a bump going 60-70, I'm not thrown out of my seat. Really imperfections aren't noticeable compared to sportier rides. I know my cornering sucks b/c of this, but since this is my daily driver, I'm not sure I can compromise "bad road" ride quality for tighter corners.

Am I on the wrong track here?

kamakaro

You can always sell them

I am aware of this, but what can i say, once you go swift you never go back haha. I have had H&R and Swift springs in the same vehicle before i can tell you that the ride quality it's incomparable. 2. The H&R drop too aggressive for my taste and i know they don't take into account valving specs of factory struts, their main purpose is to drop the car as much as they can. Not to mention that H&R WILL sag lowering the car even more overtime Or what Most people like to call "settling". This will significantly shorten the life of your shocks. Swift are Guaranteed to never ever sag, this means that you will always have the same Drop Swift intended no matter how long the springs have been in the car.

Not at all you have a very valid question and thought it makes sense in theory i can tell you that will Not be the case with the springs. I have had this springs In my old cars which includes 2004 S2000, 2005 Lexus GS430 and in my wife's old 2006 TL and to me felt even better than factory. I don't think you'd be sacrificing comfort at all.

thephantom

I'd be interested if it's in the $200 range and the drop is no more than one inch. One thing I like about the RL is the ground clearance, but hate the slushy ride.

oo7spy

$300 shipped sounds pretty reasonable. I haven't found H&R's for less than $255.

kamakaro

Looks like Japan is going to take on the prototype! I'm so excited right now i feel like a fat kid at a all-you-can-eat ice cream buffet.

thefork

Count me in if they will fit an 08 RL.

thephantom

Any update?

insanevtec

I'm in... how soon will a prototype be completed?

kamakaro

The told me abOut 2 months. I will contact them today and see if there's any update.

thephantom

One question: how do these springs compare to the Aspec configuration? I am contemplating on getting the Aspec or go with the Swift springs, do you know what the differences are between the two?

thephantom

I guess technically that was two questions.

Chas2

Technically speaking, of the two you mention, only the A-Spec is really available now.

As you know, is springs and dampers. Lowers just about 3/4". They are a great bang for the buck, especially if you do not have a dealer put in the package...it is routine work, and you do not have to pay $850 for the dealer to install it.

It would be interesting if Swift actually designed something for the RL, however, because their design philosophy seems a little different than others.

thephantom

Aspec or Swift lowers 3/4?

kamakaro

We can't not make the comparison as they are still working on the swift prototype. And chas meant the aspecs.

Chas2

A-Spec lowers 3/4 of an inch, Swift is not yet designed.

thefork

Any timeline at all on the swift springs?