2009 RL Wheels on 2005
#1
2009 RL Wheels on 2005
Hi Everyone,
Ever since the 2009 RL came out, I really admired the nice 18" wheels they put on the car. I was getting tired of the 5-spoke look (it's been played out, in my opinion) and wanted something different.
I found a set of reconditioned '09 wheels on EBay, so I purchased them and then had some tires mounted.
We never had some actual pictures of '09+ wheels on an older RL, so here you go. I'll apologize in advance for the photo quality, it was with an iPhone
I'll get a real camera soon, I promise...
![](http://home.comcast.net/~bmwx5m5/pwpimages/RL1.jpg)
![](http://home.comcast.net/~bmwx5m5/pwpimages/RL2.jpg)
![](http://home.comcast.net/~bmwx5m5/pwpimages/RL3.jpg)
![](http://home.comcast.net/~bmwx5m5/pwpimages/RL4.jpg)
![](http://home.comcast.net/~bmwx5m5/pwpimages/RL5.jpg)
![](http://home.comcast.net/~bmwx5m5/pwpimages/RL6.jpg)
Ever since the 2009 RL came out, I really admired the nice 18" wheels they put on the car. I was getting tired of the 5-spoke look (it's been played out, in my opinion) and wanted something different.
I found a set of reconditioned '09 wheels on EBay, so I purchased them and then had some tires mounted.
We never had some actual pictures of '09+ wheels on an older RL, so here you go. I'll apologize in advance for the photo quality, it was with an iPhone
![Frown](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
![](http://home.comcast.net/~bmwx5m5/pwpimages/RL1.jpg)
![](http://home.comcast.net/~bmwx5m5/pwpimages/RL2.jpg)
![](http://home.comcast.net/~bmwx5m5/pwpimages/RL3.jpg)
![](http://home.comcast.net/~bmwx5m5/pwpimages/RL4.jpg)
![](http://home.comcast.net/~bmwx5m5/pwpimages/RL5.jpg)
![](http://home.comcast.net/~bmwx5m5/pwpimages/RL6.jpg)
![](http://home.comcast.net/~bmwx5m5/pwpimages/RL7.jpg)
#3
This car really looks sharp with 19s, but 18s aren't too bad.
Chris
#4
Drifting
Much better looking than the 5 spoke originals.
#5
Safety Car
I could have used my original '05 lugs, but they were starting to rust a bit, and the '09 wheels show the lugs much more than the '05 wheels, so I bit the bullet and bought $70 worth of new lug nuts and a wheel lock set.
This car really looks sharp with 19s, but 18s aren't too bad.
Chris
This car really looks sharp with 19s, but 18s aren't too bad.
Chris
#7
Edit: Just checked the parts catalog, you are right, the lugs are definitely different! OH MAN...100 bucks down the drain
![Frown](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
Chris
Last edited by CFoote; 06-10-2010 at 08:41 AM.
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#9
Safety Car
Hopefully your dealer took care of you because he knew you bought 09 wheels, otherwise
See post #3
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-rl-tires-wheels-suspension-92/06rl-replace-09tl-19-a-779319/
037 confirmed that '09 RL's have the ball seat. And you can also confirm that in the parts catalog:
Diagram # | Part # | Description | Qty | Model Year
014 90304-SHJ-A91 NUT, WHEEL (SATO RASHI) 20 2005 RL
014 90304-SJA-A91 NUT, WHEEL (M14) 20 2009 RL
So what that means is that you potentially have a bowl shaped lug seat that only the edge of the flat washer is pressed into, and where you probably have not engaged as many threads as you might with the proper seat.
Also see the February 2007 Acura Service News on the topic...
"It’s important to know which wheel nuts go
on which wheels, because they’re not
interchangeable. If you install the wrong wheel
nuts on a wheel, the wheel could “chirp” when
you make turns because it’s not properly clamped
in place"
if you purchase locks, make sure you order the correct (ball) seat...which the 2009 RL parts catalog CONFUSINGLY identifies as the PAX lock sets (when the 2009 never had PAX!).
08W42-SJA-201A LOCK SET, PAX RUN-FLAT SYSTEM 4 2009 RL
The history on this apparent confusion is because '05-'08 PAX wheels were the first 14mm x1.5 lugs in which Acura used the now standard Acura ball seat. The general shift from the flat seat seemed to start with the 2007 MDX, then spread to the 2009 RL, the 2009 TL, and the 2010 ZDX
I only know this trivia because I thoroughly researched de-PAXing my 2006 RL when going to a set of forged wheels made specifically for the 05-08 RL's with lug seats machined to use OEM lugs.
See post #3
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-rl-tires-wheels-suspension-92/06rl-replace-09tl-19-a-779319/
037 confirmed that '09 RL's have the ball seat. And you can also confirm that in the parts catalog:
Diagram # | Part # | Description | Qty | Model Year
014 90304-SHJ-A91 NUT, WHEEL (SATO RASHI) 20 2005 RL
014 90304-SJA-A91 NUT, WHEEL (M14) 20 2009 RL
So what that means is that you potentially have a bowl shaped lug seat that only the edge of the flat washer is pressed into, and where you probably have not engaged as many threads as you might with the proper seat.
Also see the February 2007 Acura Service News on the topic...
"It’s important to know which wheel nuts go
on which wheels, because they’re not
interchangeable. If you install the wrong wheel
nuts on a wheel, the wheel could “chirp” when
you make turns because it’s not properly clamped
in place"
if you purchase locks, make sure you order the correct (ball) seat...which the 2009 RL parts catalog CONFUSINGLY identifies as the PAX lock sets (when the 2009 never had PAX!).
08W42-SJA-201A LOCK SET, PAX RUN-FLAT SYSTEM 4 2009 RL
The history on this apparent confusion is because '05-'08 PAX wheels were the first 14mm x1.5 lugs in which Acura used the now standard Acura ball seat. The general shift from the flat seat seemed to start with the 2007 MDX, then spread to the 2009 RL, the 2009 TL, and the 2010 ZDX
I only know this trivia because I thoroughly researched de-PAXing my 2006 RL when going to a set of forged wheels made specifically for the 05-08 RL's with lug seats machined to use OEM lugs.
#11
Great info Chas. Nope, my dealer didn't know and my guess is that I can't return the parts as they've been used ![Frown](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
Live and learn. It'll be $200, I'll just order the proper parts and get this fixed.
I just wanted to make sure the '09 lugs will work OK with my '05 wheel studs. I don't believe the wheelbearing/studs changed throughout the RL's lifecycle, so I should be OK there.
Welp, looks like I'll have a set of wheel locks and lugs up for sale soon![Why Me](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
Thanks for the info though, this isn't something to mess around with, its definitely a safety issue.
Chris
![Frown](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
Live and learn. It'll be $200, I'll just order the proper parts and get this fixed.
I just wanted to make sure the '09 lugs will work OK with my '05 wheel studs. I don't believe the wheelbearing/studs changed throughout the RL's lifecycle, so I should be OK there.
Welp, looks like I'll have a set of wheel locks and lugs up for sale soon
![Why Me](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
Thanks for the info though, this isn't something to mess around with, its definitely a safety issue.
Chris
#12
Safety Car
09 lugs should work with 05 wheel studs. Check with your dealer to make sure.
Here is an alternative, which you may want to research also. Buy '06-08 PAX lug nuts and locks. Because PAX is a dead end, they may sell them cheaper, but I could make the same argument that because it is a dead end, they are more rare, and therefore more expensive. Regardless, if cheaper, PAX lugs and locks should fit.
Here is my rationale:
Diagram # | Part # | Description | Qty | Model Year
014 90304-SHJ-A91 NUT, WHEEL (SATO RASHI) 20 2005 RL 05-08 Flat Washer Seat
014 90304-SJA-A91 NUT, WHEEL (M14) 20 2009 RL 09 Ball Seat
014 90304-SJA-A91 NUT, WHEEL (M14) 20 2006 RL 06-08 PAX Ball Seat
Note the 09 lug nut PN is the same PN as the 06 PAX.
Certain late models (like 09 up) of Honda Odyssey and Ridgeline and Pilot also use the M14 wheel nut, and you may find better prices on Honda locks and lugs vs the premium Acura line, but you really need to make sure of the part numbers, because earlier models had very different lugs...
Here is an alternative, which you may want to research also. Buy '06-08 PAX lug nuts and locks. Because PAX is a dead end, they may sell them cheaper, but I could make the same argument that because it is a dead end, they are more rare, and therefore more expensive. Regardless, if cheaper, PAX lugs and locks should fit.
Here is my rationale:
Diagram # | Part # | Description | Qty | Model Year
014 90304-SHJ-A91 NUT, WHEEL (SATO RASHI) 20 2005 RL 05-08 Flat Washer Seat
014 90304-SJA-A91 NUT, WHEEL (M14) 20 2009 RL 09 Ball Seat
014 90304-SJA-A91 NUT, WHEEL (M14) 20 2006 RL 06-08 PAX Ball Seat
Note the 09 lug nut PN is the same PN as the 06 PAX.
Certain late models (like 09 up) of Honda Odyssey and Ridgeline and Pilot also use the M14 wheel nut, and you may find better prices on Honda locks and lugs vs the premium Acura line, but you really need to make sure of the part numbers, because earlier models had very different lugs...
#14
Burning Brakes
I almost did this but went with the A-Spec wheels when my dealer had a special sale. Now there's real pictures instead of my photoshopped photos.
What tires do you have on the car, and how has the ride/handling changed?
What tires do you have on the car, and how has the ride/handling changed?
#16
Just an updated for everyone reading...
My dealership (Schaller Acura, Manchester CT) really stood up and took care of me (as always, these guys rock). They took the old lugs back and ordered the '09 lugs. They also exchanged the wheel locks![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
I am now rolling on proper lugs and locks![Too Cool](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/toocool.gif)
Thank you again Chas for mentioning this, I never would have thought to think about lug nuts. Now I know....
Chris
My dealership (Schaller Acura, Manchester CT) really stood up and took care of me (as always, these guys rock). They took the old lugs back and ordered the '09 lugs. They also exchanged the wheel locks
![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
I am now rolling on proper lugs and locks
![Too Cool](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/toocool.gif)
Thank you again Chas for mentioning this, I never would have thought to think about lug nuts. Now I know....
Chris
#17
Overall I'm happy with the setup. The ride is slightly harsher but nothing that I would complain about at all! As we all know, if you want handling you have to sacrifice a little bit of ride quality...and this was well worth it.
A great purchase for anyone considering it.
Chris
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