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Old 09-15-2010, 03:20 PM
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The Acura RL is overpriced.

05's with HIGH miles are running at 20k in my area (southeast). This is ridiculous. 05 should be in the 15 - 16k range 06 in the 17 - 19k and 07 20 - 23k. I may begin to look at some other cars like lexus or infiniti. 07 gs350's are running 23 and up and that is fair. I could even get an 07 g35 for 19 or 20.
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Originally Posted by onebadtsx
05's with HIGH miles are running at 20k in my area (southeast). This is ridiculous. 05 should be in the 15 - 16k range 06 in the 17 - 19k and 07 20 - 23k. I may begin to look at some other cars like lexus or infiniti. 07 gs350's are running 23 and up and that is fair. I could even get an 07 g35 for 19 or 20.
You can't compare G35 to Acura RL. Different cars, different features, different feel, etc.

In my area (North California) you can get easily find a 2006 RL with 70k miles or less for $20k. I see 3 for sale right now.
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There is a lot of sour grapes in your tone and posts.

The car is worth and prices as to what the market will tolerate, not what you think. A year ago I saw 06 RLs selling near 18K, but now they are mostly 20-25K. It is what the market will bear. A year ago, only the government could sell cars.

As you said, the RL is slow. How could someone as cool as you be caught dead in one?

Happy shopping.
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i've been looking everywhere for an RL. I had a deal in the works for a one owner, 05 black/black, 39k miles for $20300 from a dealer.

I would prefer an 06 around 40k but they are in the $23-$25 range and that is more than i want to pay.

Damn things are hard to find in black/black with low mileage.
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Used car prices are very firm these days, less people trading in cars for new ones. Of course, new cars are also a lot cheaper now, but manufacturers are getting smarter and producing less of them. Good to hear RL prices are firming, for a while the 05s were dipping to around 14k.
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Yeah. '06's with 40k miles are a little more than I wanted to spend originally. But you know what? It's damn worth it, and I'm glad I did. Remember, these sold for close to $50k new. If the car sucked, no one would want it, and used ones would be cheap.
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supply and demand.

you get what you pay for.

G35 and RL = apples / oranges

if you like the RL, figure out what your bottom line price is - then go find cars that are priced somewhat higher - and make offers below what they are asking. you mya find one like you want for a price you can live with. asking price does not determine selling price. selling price is what the seller will take.

if you are looking at the G35, you may not like hte RL as they are different cars. why not look at a used 3 series - like an older 328/330 - they are more on par with a G35. the RL is more in the leagues of a 5 series or E class... except you get more for your money.
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Originally Posted by onebadtsx
05's with HIGH miles are running at 20k in my area (southeast). This is ridiculous. 05 should be in the 15 - 16k range 06 in the 17 - 19k and 07 20 - 23k. I may begin to look at some other cars like lexus or infiniti. 07 gs350's are running 23 and up and that is fair. I could even get an 07 g35 for 19 or 20.
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You can't compare G35 to Acura RL. Different cars, different features, different feel, etc.

In my area (North California) you can get easily find a 2006 RL with 70k miles or less for $20k. I see 3 for sale right now.
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supply and demand.

you get what you pay for.

G35 and RL = apples / oranges

if you like the RL, figure out what your bottom line price is - then go find cars that are priced somewhat higher - and make offers below what they are asking. you mya find one like you want for a price you can live with. asking price does not determine selling price. selling price is what the seller will take.

if you are looking at the G35, you may not like hte RL as they are different cars. why not look at a used 3 series - like an older 328/330 - they are more on par with a G35. the RL is more in the leagues of a 5 series or E class... except you get more for your money.

I believe the OP was talking about the GS 350 which is the RL competitor.

A USED car overpriced?
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I would prefer an 06 around 40k but they are in the $23-$25 range and that is more than i want to pay.
Set your price and buy the best car you can for that price. That or put it aside for now and wait until a better financial moment. It isn't the markets fault.
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who are you to say what a car should go for?
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Originally Posted by onebadtsx
05's with HIGH miles are running at 20k in my area (southeast). This is ridiculous. 05 should be in the 15 - 16k range 06 in the 17 - 19k and 07 20 - 23k. I may begin to look at some other cars like lexus or infiniti. 07 gs350's are running 23 and up and that is fair. I could even get an 07 g35 for 19 or 20.
We sold a 2003 Lexus ES300 to get an RL. While we are trying to find an RL my sister in law lent us her 06 G35x to drive. Coming from the Lexus we don't like the G35. The seats are uncomfortable, its loud, fuel mileage is bad, the interior looks cheap, its too small and its ugly but its powerful and handles good. I will admit its fun to drive but we prefer a more luxury ride. The one we are driving is for sale Silver 06 67k for $16.5.
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Originally Posted by onebadtsx
05's with HIGH miles are running at 20k in my area (southeast). This is ridiculous. 05 should be in the 15 - 16k range 06 in the 17 - 19k and 07 20 - 23k. I may begin to look at some other cars like lexus or infiniti. 07 gs350's are running 23 and up and that is fair. I could even get an 07 g35 for 19 or 20.
So spend your money on one of those cars...there is not much we on this forum can do about the market. We can provide our collective experiences to help each other out, but we cannot really influence pricing you are experiencing.
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Originally Posted by onebadtsx
05's with HIGH miles are running at 20k in my area (southeast). This is ridiculous. 05 should be in the 15 - 16k range 06 in the 17 - 19k and 07 20 - 23k. I may begin to look at some other cars like lexus or infiniti. 07 gs350's are running 23 and up and that is fair. I could even get an 07 g35 for 19 or 20.
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I like the RL but I may look at another brand. Most RL's in my area are 19k with over 60k miles. No matter how much the car was worth new its still an almost a 6 or 7 year old car with high miles and no warranty. 20k is alot for an RL when dealers can't give away a 2010 model. There is one under 60k at 55k and they are asking 18.5 with As many of you say I have no power over the market but I do have power over my wallet. My MDX and my TSX are good cars but it may be time to move on.
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Originally Posted by CL6
Who died and made you the used car manager?
This is my opinion. 70 - 80k no warranty at 19k is madness. Either I pay 23 - 25 for a low mileage RL which is still out of warranty or move on to another brand.
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05 RLs in the NJ area with 45-70k miles are going for around 19k (FWIW, KBB shows book value private party excellent condition at 19K). To me, that seems like a pretty good deal. 70k miles is basically normal use, equates to 14k miles/year, anything less is even better. These cars can go 200k miles or more. The problem with these cars, however, is that they have some gremlins in them, and while not major, are expensive to fix. If you can find an 05 RL for 19k that has had most of the minor repairs made, that's probably a very fair price, but I wouldn't call low 20s unreasonable given the original list price of 50k. Personally, I wouldn't sell mine for less than 23k and I have 66k miles on it. It's a great car!
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did you drive the car?

Drive the RL and then drive the cars in its class.

you might appreciate the RL some more
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Originally Posted by onebadtsx
20k is alot for an RL when dealers can't give away a 2010 model. .
If the 2010 is a great deal then buy one. Playing in the big leagues has its price.
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the car goes until 300k if you maintain it that has already been proven....what more could you ask for from a car
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Originally Posted by Blazing GT
did you drive the car?

Drive the RL and then drive the cars in its class.

you might appreciate the RL some more
Yes, the wife and I drove the RL a pearl white with only 18k miles and she thought is was just like my TSX or like her friends 10 accord v6 . During the test drive we had to stop and fill up and a lady came up to me, my wife and the dealer and said nice accord . I think I may jump on the g35 or a s60r, those Volvo seats are ridiculously comfortable. RL's are everywhere in my area and its rare to see a g35 as we have no infiniti dealer in our area.
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Originally Posted by db22
If the 2010 is a great deal then buy one. Playing in the big leagues has its price.
33k for a 50k car is sad. Come on you know that there is no reason to buy a 10 RL when the TL is just as nice and quicker.

We all know they messed up the 10 RL. Hey that reminds me I need to check out benz.
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Originally Posted by onebadtsx
I like the RL but I may look at another brand. Most RL's in my area are 19k with over 60k miles. No matter how much the car was worth new its still an almost a 6 or 7 year old car with high miles and no warranty. 20k is alot for an RL when dealers can't give away a 2010 model. There is one under 60k at 55k and they are asking 18.5 with As many of you say I have no power over the market but I do have power over my wallet. My MDX and my TSX are good cars but it may be time to move on.

Funny you would say that about the RL. The dealers here in N. Calif had about 15 - 20 pre-certified RLs August 15 within a 100 mile radius. All but 2 were sold as of last weekend. And - they sold for $22K to $27K depending on mileage.

Maybe it is too much car for you or you are really a salesperson for another brand who is tired of loosing clients to Acura.
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Originally Posted by onebadtsx
33k for a 50k car is sad. Come on you know that there is no reason to buy a 10 RL when the TL is just as nice and quicker.

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If you think an RL for 33K is sad and that you and your wife think that it is like a TSX and a TL is just as nice then you probably should check out a Kia, Ford or Chevy. I'm not convinced that you could tell the difference and the Kia will save you thousands.
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Originally Posted by onebadtsx
33k for a 50k car is sad. Come on you know that there is no reason to buy a 10 RL when the TL is just as nice and quicker.

We all know they messed up the 10 RL. Hey that reminds me I need to check out benz.
Have you been in an RL before? The new TL may be roughly the same size as the RL, it doesn't mean it drives the same. I have driven a TSX, TL, RDX, MDX and I own an RL. They all feel different on the road and it really depends.
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hah, this guy is a joke.
no matter what you guys say, he always bashes the RL in the end.
he should just give up.
/life.
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Originally Posted by onebadtsx
Yes, the wife and I drove the RL a pearl white with only 18k miles and she thought is was just like my TSX or like her friends 10 accord v6 . During the test drive we had to stop and fill up and a lady came up to me, my wife and the dealer and said nice accord . I think I may jump on the g35 or a s60r, those Volvo seats are ridiculously comfortable. RL's are everywhere in my area and its rare to see a g35 as we have no infiniti dealer in our area.
a WOMAN?

most females can't even tell the difference in cars.

where do you live since the RLs are everywhere and the G35s are rare?
srry doesnt sound believable
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LMFAO @ TSX= RL

funny shit! you win OP
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Originally Posted by Blazing GT
a WOMAN?

most females can't even tell the difference in cars.

where do you live since the RLs are everywhere and the G35s are rare?
srry doesnt sound believable
I have to agree with Blazing, the only places with a lot of RLs are either in an Acura dealership or an Acura meet.

And by a lot, I mean 2 or more.
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Yes, the wife and I drove the RL a pearl white with only 18k miles and she thought is was just like my TSX or like her friends 10 accord v6 . During the test drive we had to stop and fill up and a lady came up to me, my wife and the dealer and said nice accord . I think I may jump on the g35 or a s60r, those Volvo seats are ridiculously comfortable. RL's are everywhere in my area and its rare to see a g35 as we have no infiniti dealer in our area.
lol where the hell do u live? g35 rare??
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Originally Posted by onebadtsx
Yes, the wife and I drove the RL a pearl white with only 18k miles and she thought is was just like my TSX or like her friends 10 accord v6 . During the test drive we had to stop and fill up and a lady came up to me, my wife and the dealer and said nice accord . I think I may jump on the g35 or a s60r, those Volvo seats are ridiculously comfortable. RL's are everywhere in my area and its rare to see a g35 as we have no infiniti dealer in our area.
I came from a V70R. Loved it, but every time I drove it, I had an unsettling feeling that something would go wrong. They're terribly expensive to fix, the headlights are terrible (high beams are useless), and the turning radius barely gets you around a roundabout. I suggest you drive over a few bumps in the S60R, then check to see if your teeth are still attached to your gums

The RL is a great value. Sure it was a little more than I wanted to spend, but it was worth making a couple of monetary sacrifices in other areas.

If, as you claim, the RL were overpriced, people wouldn't buy them. But they don't stay around for long because they get sold. It's a basic premise of Economics: supply and demand......

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Originally Posted by DIZAZNDOOD320
lol where the hell do u live? g35 rare??
Auburn AL where all the college kids drive 10 Range Rovers, M5's M6's, S4, bout the cheapest car I see is my TSX lol.
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I came from a V70R. Loved it, but every time I drove it, I had an unsettling feeling that something would go wrong. They're terribly expensive to fix, the headlights are terrible (high beams are useless), and the turning radius barely gets you around a roundabout. I suggest you drive over a few bumps in the S60R, then check to see if your teeth are still attached to your gums

The RL is a great value. Sure it was a little more than I wanted to spend, but it was worth making a couple of monetary sacrifices in other areas.

If, as you claim, the RL were overpriced, people wouldn't buy them. But they don't stay around for long because they get sold. It's a basic premise of Economics: supply and demand......
Thanks for the heads up on the s60r will check out an R forum regarding maint. RL is nice and I am not hating on the RL, but I just wish they where cheaper. Going to look at one this weekend maybe I will get a deal.
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Beyond pricing of the vehicle, make sure all of the other specifics fit into your budget (fuel, maintenance, insurance, etc). It would suck to make the purchase and find that the ancillary costs put you over budget.
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especially the FUEL
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Somebody should tell the Range Rover and BMW dealers that Alabama is probably their biggest market!
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Here in the Tampa Bay area G35s are everywhere. To date, I,ve only spotted 6, 2nd gen RLs! My RL is debadged and I am asked every day by someone, what kind of car it is,(even with the front and rear A badges are still in place.) Black on black and very bad! What an exciting machine!
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onebadtsx is trying to ball on a budget.
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Then get the 07 G35 it is a great car. However the only infiniti in the same class as an RL is the M. RLs hold their value pretty well, its very hard to find an 2nd gen rl with less than 60k miles and that is less than 20k$. As much as I also bash Acura they are one of the best brands that hold value.
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onebadtsx is trying to ball on a budget.
What!!!!! Man 20k for a car is not ballin. If you don't have a budget then you are not a baller.
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I am surprised no one has brought up the obvious. I purchased my 05 NBP/Black with 38k in Dec 2008 for less that any of the prices mentioned on here. I purchased from an Acura dealer, the only one within 100 miles of my house. However, if anyone remembers, the economy has... let's just say... um, how about tanked. If you look across the board, more folks are buying used instead of new due to many economical reasons, hence the same car I purchased for far less with less miles is now higher by approx. $5-10k. The prices for used cars have all increased in the last two years.

Price point aside, the RL is in a class all by itself. You can't compare to a G35 because as the Top Gear gents put it, "only Cocks drive those!" (he said, thereby angering all infiniti drivers) If you drive and fall in love, you are meant to be, if not and you are whining about price etc... then it obviously isn't meant to be and that's just a shame.

Perhaps you need some quiet meditation and introspection time, I would test drive an RL for that peace and quiet, just remember not to step on the gas going around a curve...


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