2009 TL vs Current Gen RL
#41
Three Wheelin'
The Lexus ES is the only Lexus sedan that shares a platform with a Toyota-brand model. The IS does not share a platform with a Corolla.
It is time for Honda to create a separate platform for Acura sedans.
It is time for Honda to create a separate platform for Acura sedans.
#43
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The current RL is based on the same Global Mid-size Platform as every other Acura sedan.
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#45
07 RL (non-tech)w/06 Nav
I stand corrected...the corolla and IS are not the same platform...what i find interesting though is the IS weighs 1,000 more and has less interior room than the corolla.
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#47
Three Wheelin'
The problem is that no other luxury-car brand relies on a FWD platform as much as Acura does. In my opinion, that is one of the reasons why Acura is not taken seriously as a Tier -1 brand. Acura needs a separate platform!
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I don't disagree at all, a RWD platform seems mandatory for Tier 1, and it is what got Infiniti out of trouble so much so that it is at least mentioned in the same breath as Lexus, whereas Acura is no longer considered a luxury marque. In fact, last week, the Washington Post had a test of the Hyundai Genesis, and mentioned the three German companies, Infiniti and Lexus, but not Acura, as the competition...
Anyway, I was just trying to point out why the IS, as a small car, does not have the same amount of room as the other small car, the Corolla. As your car gets larger, the extra space devoted to RWD does not become as important.
I was pretty surprised at how tight the BMW 1 series is. It is almost like the excuse for a backseat the Honda Prelude had, or I suppose in this company, Porsche or Jag XK.
Anyway, I was just trying to point out why the IS, as a small car, does not have the same amount of room as the other small car, the Corolla. As your car gets larger, the extra space devoted to RWD does not become as important.
I was pretty surprised at how tight the BMW 1 series is. It is almost like the excuse for a backseat the Honda Prelude had, or I suppose in this company, Porsche or Jag XK.
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The IS sucks and is filled with Toyota parts and bad construction. Anyone who buys one is lame. The seat bolts go right through the floor for god's sake! Sad what marketing can do.
#50
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Pretty detailed review of the 2009 TL, including the SH-AWD version. Interestingly, not a lot of focus on the interior or amenities and doesn't really seem to imply that it's moved upmarket, as the competition mentioned is the same cast of characters (3-series, G, CTS).
http://www.boston.com/cars/car_revie...ll_Cars_Review
http://www.boston.com/cars/car_revie...ll_Cars_Review
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#52
I don't disagree at all, a RWD platform seems mandatory for Tier 1, and it is what got Infiniti out of trouble so much so that it is at least mentioned in the same breath as Lexus, whereas Acura is no longer considered a luxury marque. In fact, last week, the Washington Post had a test of the Hyundai Genesis, and mentioned the three German companies, Infiniti and Lexus, but not Acura, as the competition...
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#53
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And a counter quote to the V-8
"...With that in mind, don't consider this TL a remake of the old model. Instead, think of it as more of a bridge between that model and the RL. Hardware-wise, it practically is an RL, but when that car soon converts to a rear-wheel-drive platform with V8 power, the TL will suddenly fit right in. Then it can start worrying about the prestige problem. "
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...hotopanel..1.*
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...082102970.html
...A Honda V-8?
Bonawitz laughed.
"These are very challenging times for our industry," he said. "We are witnessing what is likely to be a watershed moment for the American automobile industry" -- a moment when smart power, getting the most out of an engine using the least amount of fuel, trumps horsepower, Bonawitz said.
"At Honda," he added, "we've always been geared toward this moment."
I suppose he could also mean, I never said that there would not be an Acura V-8
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