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Tires for AWD
One of the front tires was not holding pressure and we got it checked out at a local tire shop. Apparently it has a split which is very close to the sidewall and therefore not repairable. I just want to confirm that both tires on the axle need to be changed (or is it all 4 tires in an AWD model)? Thanks. |
You want to keep all 4 tires the same circumference size (outside diameter) to avoid car AWD overload. Tirerack offers new tire shaving to a specific diameter for extra charge.
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Originally Posted by Comfy
(Post 16381335)
I just want to confirm that both tires on the axle need to be changed (or is it all 4 tires in an AWD model)? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by tech
(Post 16381395)
if you are changing 2 tires, put them on the rear axle. You want the tires with the most traction on the rear for control and not so much for traction.
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Originally Posted by Tech
(Post 16381395)
If you are changing 2 tires, put them on the rear axle. You want the tires with the most traction on the rear for control and not so much for traction.
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Originally Posted by Clickit02
(Post 16381392)
You want to keep all 4 tires the same circumference size (outside diameter) to avoid car AWD overload. Tirerack offers new tire shaving to a specific diameter for extra charge.
The local Firestone where we went were planning to replace tires with Firestone tires I guess, I asked them that I need the same brand (Michelin) tires and to put back the original tires for now. They said they will see if they can find one and will call me back. My other option is to go to Acura dealer which is about 40 miles away. We have an spare car to drive meanwhile and can wait if necessary. |
Originally Posted by Comfy
(Post 16381625)
i did not understand fully your point. I thought RDX being FWD based, wouldn’t that be beneficial to have new tires on the wheels with most traction?? Could you explain please. Or is it the general recommendation for all such cars? |
How much wear do you have on the other 3 tires? If you are getting close to 5/32nd, I would just go for 4 new tires. I would also check out the other 3 tires to see if you have any unequal wear like feathering, scalloped, and/or inner or outer wear. Might be time for an alignment also. I've purchased a single used tire from eBay in my exact make/model on my vehicles a few times with wear at 80% to 90% for about $70 shipped. Perfect match treadwear wise with existing tires since I have sh-awd on my RDX and MDX.
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Originally Posted by charlie65
(Post 16381654)
By law, tire companies are mandated to put the 2 new tires on the front. Steering outweighs/trumps traction.
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Originally Posted by mrgold35
(Post 16381743)
How much wear do you have on the other 3 tires? If you are getting close to 5/32nd, I would just go for 4 new tires. I would also check out the other 3 tires to see if you have any unequal wear like feathering, scalloped, and/or inner or outer wear. Might be time for an alignment also. I've purchased a single used tire from eBay in my exact make/model on my vehicles a few times with wear at 80% to 90% for about $70 shipped. Perfect match treadwear wise with existing tires since I have sh-awd on my RDX and MDX.
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Originally Posted by fcostantini
(Post 16381850)
Funny, but I just went through this and put the two new tires on the rear per Michelin's recommendation. Having more traction in the rear keeps the car in an understeer setup, which is what most non-racing drivers are comfortable with. Alternatively, having new tires on the front and old on the rear would allow the rear tires to break loose first in a hard turn, causing fishtailing that would result in a spin with an average driver.
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Originally Posted by charlie65
(Post 16381654)
By law, tire companies are mandated to put the 2 new tires on the front. Steering outweighs/trumps traction.
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Originally Posted by Tech
(Post 16382118)
News to me. Link to source? Or was that forum advice.
When I got home, I swapped the fronts and rears with each other. |
Discount tires tried to sell me 4 new tires on my 08 RDX when one tire was destroyed when I ran over road debris on the hwy. I just wanted two new tires and place them on the same axle. Discount was telling me I had to purchase 4 new tires because of sh-awd (they applied the same rule for all awd vehicles). I had to show them in the owner's manual that 4 new is preferred; but, 2 new is A-OK on the same axle. So glad I had a copy of the owner's manual pdf in my Dropbox.
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Okay related question. Let’s assume two new tires are placed on the rear. What happens when you rotate them? Won’t they get totally screwed up with the tire diameters then? |
Originally Posted by charlie65
(Post 16382423)
I asked for the logic behind this train of thought and he couldn't provide any.
Not an issue in my case since my tires all wear evenly and if I needed a new tire or pair of tires, if the other two are that worn, I just get a set of four. God, the amount of money spent on useless bling on cars and people can't afford what is really important...tires. |
Hey all, sorry if this has already been answered but what if ya need new sets of tires what is the "recommended" go to?
I think the RDXs come with Michelin. Can any one suggest better ones in terms of thread depth / wear, mileage, ride, etc ? |
TireRack.com has a ton of info and will make your decision an easy task.
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Originally Posted by Comfy
(Post 16382506)
Okay related question. Let’s assume two new tires are placed on the rear. What happens when you rotate them? Won’t they get totally screwed up with the tire diameters then? |
Tire shop called to say they have the tires ready. But mentioned something like Michelin Premier; but the RDX has M Primacy isn’t it. Are they close enough in characteristics so that it doesn’t matter if I use it for the other axle or should I insist on getting the Michelin Primacy? |
This may help - https://www.tirerack.com/tires/surve...S&sortValue=20
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I had the Michelin Premier LTX on My RDX.They were much better than the primacy's.Quiet and great in the rain or snow.They lasted about the same as the primacy,38,000 miles.
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Originally Posted by NBP04TL4ME
(Post 16383784)
This may help - https://www.tirerack.com/tires/surve...S&sortValue=20
Originally Posted by Brown13
(Post 16383855)
I had the Michelin Premier LTX on My RDX.They were much better than the primacy's.Quiet and great in the rain or snow.They lasted about the same as the primacy,38,000 miles.
Anyway the tire shop ordered the correct ones this time and will call me sometime next week. |
Originally Posted by Brown13
(Post 16383855)
I had the Michelin Premier LTX on My RDX.They were much better than the primacy's.Quiet and great in the rain or snow.They lasted about the same as the primacy,38,000 miles.
Will need new tires soon; only used OE Primacy up to now. Did you notice any increase in noise level on the Premier LTX as mileage increased? Price being quite a bit lower has made me reluctant to try them. |
Originally Posted by trcollins59
(Post 16385635)
Brown13:
Will need new tires soon; only used OE Primacy up to now. Did you notice any increase in noise level on the Premier LTX as mileage increased? Price being quite a bit lower has made me reluctant to try them. |
Update
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...3b0a4cb99.jpeg Just want to keep you in the loop. I got the tires changed today with the OEM Michelin primacy MXM4. It was ironic that even though the tire shop’s window prominently displayed the reason for putting new tires in the rear, the guy convinced me otherwise. He stated that my tires have very minimal wear and therefore that logic doesn’t apply in my case. He stated that newer tires on the front would wear a tiny bit faster on the fronts and eventually all fours would end up with relatively same wear. Now here’s a picture of what I found in my damaged tire. A screw. The head is barely noticeable outside since it sits so flush but inside was a different story. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...32362f33c.jpeg Just to wrap up, I had requested my good tire back as I handed my keys earlier but they forgot and had to look for it when I asked. But I made sure I got it back before I left the place. Later on I checked the invoice which stated scrap tire recycling fee 2:00 x 2 =$4:00. Did they really intended to destroy that good tire? |
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