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lol, there isn't anything wrong with a little R&R.
What kind of fish are you angling for there on the Gulf side?
Hey Zeta, did you leave me a private message just a couple weeks ago? The only reason I ask is because I had a private notification from you but it disappeared as soon as I tried to open it. Maybe it was a computer glitch. But getting back to the fishing question I usually go for Snook, red fish, and tarpon. And sometimes I do some freshwater fishing for bass. I have a beautiful flats boat that I use all the time but I just put together a nice Jon Boat as well for Back River fishing. But.... not that I needed another boat, but I just bought a Tiara 270 Continental. Being a marine mechanic for over 10 years I come across great deals sometimes, and this one I couldn't pass up. This is what I meant by having too many things on my mind now...lol I know this is off topic but I'll post some pics then I'll let you know how much I actually picked up that Tiara for.
It's a 1984 Tiara 270 Continental with Twin 2001 Mercruisers 5.7 fuel injected engines and Bravo III Outdrives. The guy was the original owner since 1984 which is unheard of. The boat inside and out looks brand-new, no kidding! I did a compression test on both Motors and they were perfect at 170 in every cylinder. And EVERYTHING works on the boat. Anyways this boat goes for $20k + all day long, and I picked it up for........$4k you can't even get a nice Jon Boat for $4k lol
This is what I meant by having too many things on my mind now...lol
OMG, Nice pick-up!
2ndgentl, now your secret is out, you have another indulgence, hehe. She is a beauty and I can see how it would distract/preoccupy your mind.
I bet the sound of those V8's is a 'kick in the pants', lol.
At that purchase price, I agree, that deal would be to difficult to pass up. Are you going to enjoy it for the upcoming summer months and then flip it? Or not just think about it for now and just enjoy? Either way, well done!
2ndgentl, now your secret is out, you have another indulgence, hehe. She is a beauty and I can see how it would distract/preoccupy your mind.
I bet the sound of those V8's is a 'kick in the pants', lol.
At that purchase price, I agree, that deal would be to difficult to pass up. Are you going to enjoy it for the upcoming summer months and then flip it? Or not just think about it for now and just enjoy? Either way, well done!
My GF has convinced me to keep it for a while before selling it. We already took it out twice over the weekend and it is such a nice running boat. It sleeps 4 in the cabin, bathroom w/shower, stove, fridge, A/C, hot water heater, etc...here's the best part, the guy never had an hour meter on the engines so he assumed they had 900 - 1000 hours on them which is pretty high even though they run excellent and the compression was great. So.... I took out my diagnostic engine reader today, which tells you how many hours are on the engines from being stored in the ECU. And these are the actual hours the engines had on them.....
My GF has convinced me to keep it for a while before selling it.
I have to agree with her, that's a reasonable deal. After all she let you use her AMEX card a few weeks ago, hehe.
Originally Posted by 2ndgentl
We already took it out twice over the weekend and it is such a nice running boat. It sleeps 4 in the cabin, bathroom w/shower, stove, fridge, A/C, hot water heater, etc...here's the best part, the guy never had an hour meter on the engines so he assumed they had 900 - 1000 hours on them which is pretty high even though they run excellent and the compression was great. So.... I took out my diagnostic engine reader today, which tells you how many hours are on the engines from being stored in the ECU. And these are the actual hours the engines had on them.....
So, I'm a little confused. Were the engines installed new in 2001 and are therefore 2001 model year, with only 336hrs each?
Or are they used 2001 engines installed sometime thereafter? They look new and I'm just wondering how the former owner could have blundered with an overestimate of the hours by almost two thirds
I have to agree with her, that's a reasonable deal. After all she let you use her AMEX card a few weeks ago, hehe.
So, I'm a little confused. Were the engines installed new in 2001 and are therefore 2001 model year, with only 336hrs each?
Or are they used 2001 engines installed sometime thereafter? They look new and I'm just wondering how the former owner could have blundered with an overestimate of the hours by almost two thirds
Those Engines and Outdrives were new when he repowered the boat in 2001. So, he has only put 336 hrs on them since then. That is unbelievably low for 16 yr old engines. With those engines and the dual-prop Bravo III outdrives the boat does 50 mph WOT. That's fast for that big sled.
Ok, last boats pics, I swear...this is my little pride and joy. I built her back in 2005. It's called a "Marauder Super Skiff 18" tunnel hull. Floats in 6" of water and runs in 4." Runs @ 45 mph WOT. It's a great flats fishing or fly fishing boat.
I've been rediculiously busy but I literally just got done doing a compression check after I obviously had to put the flywheel\clutch\tranny on.......
#1: 240 psi
#2: 210 psi
#3: 215 psi
#4: 190 psi
#5: 220 psi
#6: 180 psi
They are all over the place....and I re-checked them all 5 times....and I also shot oil down the cylinders....I have to clean the garage now with my tail between my legs...peace ✌I'm out....
I am seriously out of words....now I have to call them in the morning and get a refund on this motor. I remember the guy telling me if there's something wrong with the engine within the 90 day warranty he would refund me my money back, and he said he wouldn't want the engine back so I will probably end up with 2 junk engines sitting in my garage. Wtf would Jesus do?...I don't know where to go from here. Looks like my Honda Element will be my DD for a while now...I just put 30" tires on it and it's already lifted 3". I think I'm going to use it to drag my CLS and both engines in the woods...
This is what it's coming down to...next I'm going to talk about how many hills I climbed in my element....I miss my CL
2ndgentl, sorry to hear the news on the low compression. You still have options, though you may have to do just a little more work.
I just did a search on carparts.com for used J32A2's from the Automatic 02-03 CLS/TLS. There are literally a shit-load of them within a 30 mile radius of 34689. I counted at least 7+ ($245.17ea) at Magic Japanese Used Auto Parts (Clearwater) 1.727.573.7751. This location even has 3 J35A3's, one with 88K between $400-524.
Now that you have two 'junk' engines, just try and keep your engine search close to 'Home' and find one of the above and 'convert' it, using parts from your existing 'lumps', to the six speed motor that you need. That way, you can still manage your busy work schedule and constructively manage the process of getting a decent engine for your CL-S6. Easy pesy.
Thanks as always ZETA!! That's the route that I'm eventually going to take since I can physically look at the motor before I buy it. And the automatic ones wouldn't be sitting on a shelf for 10 years like the last two I bought. But now I am having an issue with the place where I bought it from, they said that 60 pound difference in the cylinders is still fine. I literally laughed.... I am waiting for their supervisor to call me back. I'm still within the 90 day warranty, but if there is an issue American Express is great with the disputes.
Thanks as always ZETA!! That's the route that I'm eventually going to take since I can physically look at the motor before I buy it. And the automatic ones wouldn't be sitting on a shelf for 10 years like the last two I bought.
I bet you will be pleasantly surprised at what you find locally, when you start your search, as to what is available. As you know, the main concern is to get those high compression numbers and as 'low' miles as possible. It looks like the hardest part to the 'conversion' involves the removal/reinstallation of the J32 front cam gear, backing plate & sensors/harness, while maintaining proper timing position, that should not be a problem.
Originally Posted by 2ndgentl
But now I am having an issue with the place where I bought it from, they said that 60 pound difference in the cylinders is still fine. I literally laughed.... I am waiting for their supervisor to call me back. I'm still within the 90 day warranty, but if there is an issue American Express is great with the disputes.
So they refunded me my money back which was great, and told me they didn't want the engine back. So now I have my original engine and this one in my garage.... my question is should I go with the automatic j32a2 and put my heads on it or should I get a j35 and put my heads on it? I'm thinking the j35
So they refunded me my money back which was great, and told me they didn't want the engine back.
Nice!
Originally Posted by 2ndgentl
So now I have my original engine and this one in my garage.... my question is should I go with the automatic j32a2 and put my heads on it or should I get a j35 and put my heads on it? I'm thinking the j35
If you go with the J35, definitely put the J32 heads on for a J35A3 Type-S. However, it may be prudent to have the set of J32 heads checked out by a machine shop for potential warpage, better safe than sorry.
You would than have to make a decision on the disposition of your supercharger.
If you go with an auto J32, you can put a set of J32 heads from your 6-speed 'junk' engines; however, for the same reason as above, you may want to get them checked out by a machine shop for warpage first. OR
You could just swap over the 6-speed J32 timing gear, pulley side crank sensor & bracket, front cam gear, backing plate & sensors/harness and put those on your new auto J32 to make it a compatable 6-speed manual transmission motor.
You could still use your S/C'er, should you decide to pursue booooost.
Man you just can'you catch a break with these motors..
My vote has been J35A3 from the beginning & after 2 failed attempts with 6 spd motors, you might as well go the different route.
As for swapping the heads over, I wouldn't even bother. IMO, I don't believe it's worth the work involved to tear down 2 motors. If anything, just swap over the Type S cams and call it a day.
A plus with having 2 6spd motors is that you can strip the necessary 6spd conversion parts and make some money selling them.
Sorry for the late response, I haven't done anything with my car and it's been killing me but I haven't had any time because in the summer is when I get really busy with work, but I think I have finally made my decision on what I am going to do. I've decided to get a j35a3 and just swap my type S cams over along with all my other bolt-ons and just running around all motor without the supercharger. I just know it will be reliable and a lot less expensive. I was thinking about selling the supercharger but I know how hard they are to come by so I might just hold on to it in case I get an itch up my ass one day to go through the process of setting the engine up for it along with the stand alone and a proper tune. So that being said I figure going with the j35a3 with my type S cams will be somewhere in between my old motor and the supercharger which will still be really quick. I found a j35a3 locally with 72,000 miles on it for $400. I just can't seem to find any Dyno numbers on a j35a3. I would like to know roughly around what I'm looking at by swapping over the type S cams. I mean, with all my bolt ons and the type S cams I wonder how much more power that engine will produce then my j32a2. I mean, is this the route I should take? Or should I just get an automatic J32a2 and put my type S heads on it.
IMHO, since you already have incurred the cost of the S/C'er purchase, which is an investment worth holding on to , why not try the J35A3 route and keep the blower in reserve for when you get the 'itch' again, as you stated above. (BTW, If you do want to sell your S/C'er kit, I can put you in contact with someone who may be very interested in S. FL.)
As mentioned, you have already found a decent J35; therefore, when time becomes available from your busy summer schedule, pick that bad boy up! As you know, just do all your requisite tests to make sure it's in good working order.
Like you mentioned, the J35 would be a great compromise, somewhere in the middle, performance wise, to get your car back on the road and a great learning experience as well. You can handle the 'swap' of all the pertinent items from your j32(s) to get that j35 six speed compatable, no problem.
Thanks for the follow-up and keep us updated when time permits.
I think power wise, a 3.5 CL-S would match up nicely against a 3.2 s/c on low boost. I hope you get it up and running soon. You're due for some good luck.
Thanks for the update. What a great price at that mileage point.
In addition, when you get to transferring all the 'timing stuff' from one of your 6-speed engines, make sure to take #8 and #11 from the six speed as well:
Thank you Zeta!! I'm sure I'm going to have some more questions as I'm piecing this motor together. But 1st thing I have to do as always is do a compression test on the J35. Assuming it should be fine, fingers crossed. I miss my car more and more every day. I can't wait to put my car back together again
Thank you Zeta!! I'm sure I'm going to have some more questions as I'm piecing this motor together. But 1st thing I have to do as always is do a compression test on the J35.
No problem. Here is to hoping that all the compression numbers are at their highest levels.
Originally Posted by 2ndgentl
Assuming it should be fine, fingers crossed. I miss my car more and more every day. I can't wait to put my car back together again
I bet you do. Update with your progress when time permits.
I need to take you out drinking and anyone else who wants to join. This past month has been an absolute nightmare trying to get everything back to normal again after Hurricane Irma. My house/property got hit hard and it was only a Cat 1 when it hit here. My back has been killing me from all the giant oak trees I had to hack up. Just more reasons I had to put my car on the back burner...
OMG, those pictures are difficult to look at. to see those old growth oaks go down like that. To say the least, you have been busy and have everything cleared up. That's surely a nice house/lot you have there.
I have a 35 year old, at least 25+ foot Water Oak in my front yard, along with two other younger 25 foot Oaks in the back yard that, for being on the 'dirty side' of the storm, fared surprisingly well, after being 'shit whipped' for hours by 75-90mph winds. Hard to believe. Funny thing about that was that there was a mother squirrel and her drey in one of the rear Oaks. They were out at day break doing what squirrels do like nothing happened, lol.
Just had a few roofing tiles broken off and found a leak around one of the vertical PVC sewer vents they run through the roof, which I had to monitor/nurse through to keep ceiling plaster board water damage to a minimum.
Thanks Zeta, yeah everything is actually back to normal now minus a few trees, and more to come out since I don't trust any near the house anymore. A few giant trees fell even after the storm had passed from weakening them. So I cringe every time I take the dogs out and stand by a tree. It was such a mess here after the storm that my father-in-law actually flew down from Canada for 2 weeks to give us a hand. If Irma had hugged the gulf coast like all the tracks had shown the day before we all would have been 10x more screwed. Well, I can put all this behind now and focus on the CL finally. Also, the weather is helping by getting a little cooler as well.
Crazy the strength that even a cat 1 storm has. Glad all is well though.
As for the J35A3, $375 is the definition of bang for the buck..
That's no joke at $375.
Here is a little perspective, even though it is a slightly different situation. Being a lazy a*s, I'm looking to replace an engine on my old rear engine riding lawn mower because I'm tired of walking behind my self-propelled Honda mower.
The engine below is almost the same 'monies' as 2ndgentl's J35, Briggs & Stratton 12HP IC 281707-0125-01 Complete Engine Running! Video! CLEAN! | eBay
I have two J32a2 complete engines sitting in my garage with a few outboard engines as well. I'm sure we can Frankenstein something together for the lawnmower
Wow crazy damage! did you manage to get your boats out of the water? it sounded like you had a few!
My big 28' Tiara I keep at a marina on a lift above the water so basically kissed that boat goodbye before the hurricane hit expecting a Cat 3 or 4. My flats boat I moved to my parents house a couple of miles from me because I was afraid of an oak tree falling and crushing my garage where I kept it. And my jon boat I kept in my garage in case I needed it to get out of the neighborhood due to a flood. Thank God it was only a Cat 1 instead of a 3 or 4. The day after I used my jon boat to rescue some people from a very flooded neighborhood. As I knew that neighborhood was under from last years flood which I also used my jon boat to rescue 19 people and a bunch of pets. I'm just glad the hurricane turned to the east more and didn't hug the gulf coast. I just feel bad for the people that got it bad down south.
Nice and congratulations! Looks like you are well on your way.
One thing though 2ndgentl. The last thing I want to be is a 'killjoy'; however, can you spray some brake clean, on the oily area of the block shown in the pic below, around that large flange bolt/nut (#20) or #24) that looks like it is running through the water passage (#8) on the link below:
There appears to be a 'faint' line that may be a crack that I noticed the other day. Check it out when time permits. Either way you would want to use the J32 water passage anyway to plug n play hook-up of the relevant pipes and such.
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to see those old growth oaks go down like that. To say the least, you have been busy and have everything cleared up. That's surely a nice house/lot you have there.
which I had to monitor/nurse through to keep ceiling plaster board water damage to a minimum.
