Tuned using Dezod AEM EMS
Hey guys, I picked up the Dezod AEM Kit. I was a bit disappointment that they advertised as “everything works” but my temp gauge. They switched boxes causing the temp gauge to work. They were selling the kit with the AEM 6050 box but switched to the 6051. After a little hassle I got them to send me a aftermarket gauge. JDM J32a Comptech Supercharger - 5lb pulley 550cc Bosch Injectors Aeromotive Fuel Pressure Regulator Walbro 255 Fuel Pump Aftermarkert headers 3” Highflow cat to 3” Greddy Supreme SP muffler Clutchmasters Stage 1 Clutch w/ OEM Flywheel 310whp 267tq the car was tuned in +90 degree weather. I plan to take it back here in a week or to to have the tune touched up. |
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Nice CLS. :) That's an automatic transmission, correct? |
I had just about the exact same setup with a 5 lb pulley on my 6-speed CL and just waited too long to get it tuned before the engine blew. Now I have swapped a J35a3 and haven't put the Comptech S/C on yet. I bought an AEM EMS series 2 for it and just haven't had the time yet to mess with it, but not sure what jumper I need to make it work on my manual (6-speed) wiring harness
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Originally Posted by zeta
(Post 16325546)
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Nice CLS. :) That's an automatic transmission, correct? |
Originally Posted by 2ndgentl
(Post 16325553)
I had just about the exact same setup with a 5 lb pulley on my 6-speed CL and just waited too long to get it tuned before the engine blew. Now I have swapped a J35a3 and haven't put the Comptech S/C on yet. I bought an AEM EMS series 2 for it and just haven't had the time yet to mess with it, but not sure what jumper I need to make it work on my manual (6-speed) wiring harness
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Originally Posted by bluedc2
(Post 16325617)
thanks man, it’s a 6-speed.
Originally Posted by bluedc2
(Post 16325500)
I plan to take it back here in a week or to to have the tune touched up.
P.S.: Just curious, how did you end up deciding on the Dezod unit in the first place?:) |
Originally Posted by zeta
(Post 16325634)
Congrats and thanks for the response. I thought I read that you had an auto.:shrug:
I’ve owend 4 CL’s two in the past were autotragic. You may already know this; however, the dyno you see, with 330whp @ 6 psi, on Dezod's webpage for the CLS 6-speed AEM EMS unit is a fellow member here named R J Poseidon 6. Not sure if he still has his 6-speed though. He had it tuned by the folks at Kings Performance in Orlando, FL. IIRC'ly you two are the only one's that have the Dezod unit. :cheers: Hopefully, your tuners can find at least 20 whp or more upon your next visit.:thumbsup: P.S.: Just curious, how did you end up deciding on the Dezod unit in the first place?:) I decided on the Dezod kit becuase that pretty much the only tuning option as I didn’t want to use AEM FIC or Greddy. It’s been great so far, 2-step sounds crazy with the blower. Haha |
Originally Posted by bluedc2
(Post 16325644)
Definitely expect to see more with the cooler weather now though.
Question: Do you have the CT-Engineering high boost pulley on the alternator OR a Custom pulley on the blower shaft?
Originally Posted by bluedc2
(Post 16325644)
I decided on the Dezod kit becuase that pretty much the only tuning option as I didn’t want to use AEM FIC or Greddy. It’s been great so far, 2-step sounds crazy with the blower. Haha
I've heard that the automatic guys CL/TL's can run an AEM EMS V2 because it is made for the automatic harness. This is the set-up that Karanx7 is using with his blown J35A3 in his TL-P 6-speed conversion. If possible, once you get everything ironed out, post a nice video from, perhaps, a 20mph roll through that sweet third gear pull so we can hear that S/C'er whine.:) :thumbsup: |
Originally Posted by zeta
(Post 16325649)
That's probably where you will find the extra HP. It appears you have all the supporting mods to certainly get there.
Question: Do you have the CT-Engineering high boost pulley on the alternator OR a Custom pulley on the blower shaft? If you want a 'plug n play' set-up, that's pretty much what I've heard as well. I've heard that the automatic guys CL/TL's can run an AEM EMS V2 because it is made for the automatic harness. This is the set-up that Karanx7 is using with his blown J35A3 in his TL-P 6-speed conversion. If possible, once you get everything ironed out, post a nice video from, perhaps, a 20mph roll through that sweet third gear pull so we can hear that S/C'er whine.:) :thumbsup: |
In the video i posted I have my super heavy Work wheels on the car. I’ve since picked up some TL Type S waffles. |
My gauge set up. |
The only thing I can recommend to increase HP, if you are up to spending more money, is to consider a similar set-up like 2ndgentl had:
The pictures below show the 09 TL intake manifold; Blox 76mm throttle body and intake spacer on his original J32A2 before it grenaded. He's had a lot of success with these.:shrug:
Originally Posted by 2ndgentl
(Post 15930674)
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...b69e525991.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...47dddff2ff.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...365b6a1f58.jpg So here are a few closer pics of the 76mm TB and the S\C elbow, also you can see the p2r spacer under the IM. If you look closey to the S\C elbow connecting to the S\C they aren't 100% aligned, but close. :thumbsup: |
Originally Posted by zeta
(Post 16325688)
The only thing I can recommend to increase HP, if you are up to spending more money, is to consider a similar set-up like 2ndgentl had:
The pictures below show the 09 TL intake manifold; Blox 76mm throttle body and intake spacer on his original J32A2 before it grenaded. He's had a lot of success with these.:shrug: Maybe he will come back to your thread and elaborate a little further. :thumbsup: |
Originally Posted by 2ndgentl
(Post 16325755)
What's up Zeta! I need some motivation to put this supercharger back on again! Weather is starting to get better here in Florida which is giving me some motivation because I know I won't be pouring sweat as I'm working in my garage. My only dilemma is the AEM EMS Series 2 that I have won't work on my manual wiring harness, so I don't know where to go from here. I ended up with the AEM EMS series 2 because I bought it for a price that I couldn't turn down. I haven't done much research but I hope there's a jumper someone makes to work on the AEM EMS series 2 with the manual wiring harness and the j35a3. All I really need to do after that is beef up my fuel hose, and get bigger injectors ( which I already have; rc injectors 550 cc @ 60 psi ). I'm dying to put the supercharger back on, kind of getting bored of the N/A power already, even though it does pull really strong.
Did you have to modify the piping from the Comptech kit when you put on the 09 TL intake manifold? Or did. It bolt right up? |
I’ve also been considering adding a FMIC. Are the benifits really worth it? Anyone running one? |
Originally Posted by 2ndgentl
(Post 16325755)
What's up Zeta! I need some motivation to put this supercharger back on again! Weather is starting to get better here in Florida which is giving me some motivation because I know I won't be pouring sweat as I'm working in my garage. My only dilemma is the AEM EMS Series 2 that I have won't work on my manual wiring harness, so I don't know where to go from here. I ended up with the AEM EMS series 2 because I bought it for a price that I couldn't turn down. I haven't done much research but I hope there's a jumper someone makes to work on the AEM EMS series 2 with the manual wiring harness and the j35a3. All I really need to do after that is beef up my fuel hose, and get bigger injectors ( which I already have; rc injectors 550 cc @ 60 psi ). I'm dying to put the supercharger back on, kind of getting bored of the N/A power already, even though it does pull really strong.
The only thing I can recommend on the AEM EMS series 2 is to ask @Karanx7 on whether or not any kind of 6-speed 'jumper' harness can be had, commercially, for your version AEM EMS box or not. I tagged him on this thread, so hopefully he will get a PM message and chime in with any options available. I'm thinking not though, hopefully I'm wrong. |
Originally Posted by bluedc2
(Post 16325762)
Did you have to modify the piping from the Comptech kit when you put on the 09 TL intake manifold? Or did. It bolt right up? |
Sick, sick ride.
I have the same set up and I love it - everything works just fine too. Happy Friday!! |
...except that badass TL manifold!!
You guys are nuts! lol I love it. |
Originally Posted by R J Poseidon 6
(Post 16329939)
Sick, sick ride.
I have the same set up and I love it - everything works just fine too. Happy Friday!! |
I had the car retuned today with the 7lb pulley which actually made 8lbs of boost on all pulls. My clutch was slipping bad on the dyno but she picked up 12hp and 22tq. 322hp 290tq. |
niiice!
...new clutch soon? |
Originally Posted by R J Poseidon 6
(Post 16335184)
niiice!
...new clutch soon? |
Originally Posted by bluedc2
(Post 16335428)
yes sir! what are you guys running? XLR8 Clutch System - Excelerate Performance - European, Exotic and Japanese Performance Specialists!! https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...nstall-939621/ |
Originally Posted by zeta
(Post 16335481)
I've heard some good things about XLR8's clutches. 2ndgentl has one on his CLS6. You would have to talk to them, XLR8, about availability. They also use to just sell the clutch and pressure plate if you wanted to keep costs down and not purchase the LW flywheel. :dunno: Their system is supposed to give you 'just a little more' clamping force over OEM while retaining OEM ease in applying the clutch.:shrug:
XLR8 Clutch System - Excelerate Performance - European, Exotic and Japanese Performance Specialists!! https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...nstall-939621/ |
Originally Posted by 2ndgentl
(Post 16339376)
The XLR8 clutch that I have is comprable to a stage 2 clutch, and it's been great so far, but the only reason why I went with that clutch was because the pressure plate is a lot beefier than a stock OEM clutch. I bought the kit that came with the clutch and the aluminum flywheel from XLR8. I believe it was the DD kit. I don't know if you remembered but a while ago I posted about how my OEM pressure plate broke inside the bell housing and it destroyed my AASCO aluminum flywheel sensors also my cam shaft position sensor. I just don't think an oem stock pressure plate can handle more than 250 whp. I broke mine before I put the supercharger on, I don't think I was pushing more than 270 whp at the time.
Hey, did Santa find you that 6speed compatible 'harness' you need to get that AEM EMS 2 up and running? I thought you stated in one of your other threads that boomslang made one, or something. Just curious. |
Originally Posted by zeta
(Post 16339486)
LOL, oh yeah, I remember.:)
Hey, did Santa find you that 6speed compatible 'harness' you need to get that AEM EMS 2 up and running? I thought you stated in one of your other threads that boomslang made one, or something. Just curious. |
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Originally Posted by bluedc2
(Post 16335428)
yes sir! what are you guys running? |
Dang 2ndGen - that looks so sick dude.
Love it. |
Installed my RSX steering whee today. Had it rewrapped with a Redlinegoods steering wheel cover. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...106e1e351.jpeg RSX Wheel |
Wow that looks really good.
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you need water/meth and youll add on some power. its on my list with some more stuff.
im super jelly of that ems. i really need it but its just so damn expensive. |
Originally Posted by 03-6/6
(Post 16351046)
you need water/meth and youll add on some power. its on my list with some more stuff.
im super jelly of that ems. i really need it but its just so damn expensive. |
will that ems run the wm? i know the aem kit comes with a controller but it would be way better if the ecu could control it more precisely.,
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Originally Posted by 03-6/6
(Post 16351090)
will that ems run the wm? i know the aem kit comes with a controller but it would be way better if the ecu could control it more precisely.,
AEM EMS Acura CL Type S 01-03 'Our newAEMTUNERsoftware is infinitely adjustable software and allows tuners to program virtually any combination of engine control, power adders and auxiliary devices'. It does not specifically mention 'meth injection control'; however, that perhaps can be utilized under one of the other functions like 'Wet & Dry Nitrous Control'? :dunno: |
I love how my pic is the one used on that Dezod link :kinggrin:
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Originally Posted by 03-6/6
(Post 16351090)
will that ems run the wm? i know the aem kit comes with a controller but it would be way better if the ecu could control it more precisely.,
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Put my winter wheels on today. :thumbsup: https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...ad5a82302.jpeg |
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