RonJon CL-S 6 speed, 286hp to the wheels!
02-06-2011, 10:34 PM
#41
Lives in Boost
02-06-2011, 10:50 PM
#42
Whats up with RDX owners?
iTrader: (9)
I hear you. When I was first boosted my car pulled so hard it almost scared me. I'm sure Civic can relate since he's putting down similar numbers. But I think I've gotten used to the power. I can't argue with you about the peace of mind though, you dont want to mess with a good thing. The only thing about tuning with the FPR (turning up the fuel psi) is that you're running much richer. I can smell fuel sometimes when I first start up my car. I'd like to get better gas mileage and more power though the next time I take her in.
I want more 
Cool. What clutch do you plan on running?
02-06-2011, 10:59 PM
#43
Lives in Boost
Probably a CM stage 3 like you. Thought about the p2r disc but i dont know if that'll be enough, and a lightweight flywheel from clutchmasters wouldn't hurt seeing as though I've never replaced mine (140k and counting), just had it resurfaced and the clutch disc replaced.
02-07-2011, 06:27 PM
#45
CL-Future, finding a tuner who can back up their claim is the hardest part, I had 3 different guys say they could tune it and they all failed, acting like they knew what they were doing, then they can't figure out what to do after the first drive cycle changes the tune. Nobody I have ever heard of successfully tuned the j32.
02-07-2011, 06:52 PM
#47
CL-Future, finding a tuner who can back up their claim is the hardest part, I had 3 different guys say they could tune it and they all failed, acting like they knew what they were doing, then they can't figure out what to do after the first drive cycle changes the tune. Nobody I have ever heard of successfully tuned the j32.
If you can get into contact with Allout or 02AV6, they were both tuned on Emanage Blue.
02-07-2011, 08:28 PM
#48
I tried contacting about 10 board members and ran into so many problems with the FIC, it left a nasty taste in my mouth. I just gave up on all of that shit, things are good enough now.
I still have the FIC and the harness, the RDX injectors (6) and a few pulleys, etc left over I need to sell.
I still have the FIC and the harness, the RDX injectors (6) and a few pulleys, etc left over I need to sell.
02-07-2011, 08:43 PM
#50
Lives in Boost
Ayyy, I thought you were successfully tuned on FIC for some reason. So you gave up on it and only tuned on the FPR? I got ya now. I believe you though, that's why I always asked on here about the FIC because I hadn't heard of a CL being successfully tuned on the FIC, only TL's and Accords and of course only the CL being tuned on the E-Manage. I plan on going EMS so I wont have to fight with the ECU and my tuner has done EMS tunes (on non CL cars) and prefers them since piggybacks can be finicky (sp?).
Did you ever convert the RDX injectors over so they fit in the CL?
Did you ever convert the RDX injectors over so they fit in the CL?
02-08-2011, 10:10 AM
#51
Ayyy, I thought you were successfully tuned on FIC for some reason. So you gave up on it and only tuned on the FPR? I got ya now. I believe you though, that's why I always asked on here about the FIC because I hadn't heard of a CL being successfully tuned on the FIC, only TL's and Accords and of course only the CL being tuned on the E-Manage. I plan on going EMS so I wont have to fight with the ECU and my tuner has done EMS tunes (on non CL cars) and prefers them since piggybacks can be finicky (sp?).
Did you ever convert the RDX injectors over so they fit in the CL?
Did you ever convert the RDX injectors over so they fit in the CL?
I still have the injectors, all brand new, and from what i know, the modifications to get them to work is so simple and minor, anybody with a dremel can do it.
I'm goign to take pics of everything I have and post it in the BM.
02-14-2011, 09:07 AM
#53
3.5 psi
iTrader: (1)
Found this old dyno thread that might shed some light on the IMRC issue we were talking about. You can see in the fourth paragraph in the first post that there was a run with the IMRC unplugged and then plugged in. Difference was 5whp/8wtq.
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-cl-2001-2003-50/supercharger-e-manage-dyno-451277/
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-cl-2001-2003-50/supercharger-e-manage-dyno-451277/
03-03-2011, 03:54 PM
#55
Ok so what Im getting out of this is that the FIC is not gonna cut it if you want it to be a reliable tune.
Besides just tuning the FPR are you just running the Comptech ESM as well???
Im getting my SC in a couple of weeks and Im trying to soak up all the info I can here!
Besides just tuning the FPR are you just running the Comptech ESM as well???
Im getting my SC in a couple of weeks and Im trying to soak up all the info I can here!
03-04-2011, 08:30 AM
#57
I just wanted to make sure that the FPR is gonna allow enough adjustment to handle a 5-6lb high boost pulley. This setup is on stock injectors right? There is so many mixed reviews on FIC, Emanage Blue, ESM, EMS blah blah blah lol.
Just want to do it right the first time!
Just want to do it right the first time!
03-04-2011, 08:36 AM
#58
3.5 psi
iTrader: (1)
I believe there is a screw on the comptech FPR to adjust the flow. Yes i believe he has stock injectors. Emanage blue does work for sure. It is very basic as far as piggybacks go, but it's good for what you need. Or you can do as Ron did and hop on a dyno and tune with the FPR. Not the best tuning, but it works fine.
Where are you getting the 6psi pulley?
Where are you getting the 6psi pulley?
03-04-2011, 08:38 AM
#59
I think its a 5lb to be honest. I am buying the setup used. I plan on measuring the pulleys to determine what they are PSI wise once it arrives. Im going to try tuning with the FPR first I was just making sure it supported the higher PSI pulley. It comes with an FIC but I might just sell it and get the EManage blue if its better.
03-04-2011, 10:37 AM
#61
If you want to0 experiment with an FIC, let me know, I am selling one for $300. And as far as the pulley, I noticed it' 7 lbs when I tighten and the temprature is the same, but over time, it drops to 5 lbs on the pressure gauge and requires me to tighten the tensioner. When the weather changes from cold to warmer, the belt gets looser I think.
03-04-2011, 11:26 AM
#63
Lives in Boost
I think its a 5lb to be honest. I am buying the setup used. I plan on measuring the pulleys to determine what they are PSI wise once it arrives. Im going to try tuning with the FPR first I was just making sure it supported the higher PSI pulley. It comes with an FIC but I might just sell it and get the EManage blue if its better.
If the pulley is higher than the HBP though the thing you'll need to worry about even more is cooling the intake charge via water/meth injection or an intercooler.
If you want to0 experiment with an FIC, let me know, I am selling one for $300. And as far as the pulley, I noticed it' 7 lbs when I tighten and the temprature is the same, but over time, it drops to 5 lbs on the pressure gauge and requires me to tighten the tensioner. When the weather changes from cold to warmer, the belt gets looser I think.
03-04-2011, 11:56 AM
#64
[quote=CL-Future;12756992]Tuning using the FPR will be OK for the HBP, the problem is the fuel pressure. During WOT it'll be above 80psi, honestly closer to 100 which isn't recommended or optimal. You'd need some larger injectors to offset it as the stock ones will be max'd out. Members have run this setup however without problems, but I'm sure it wreaks havoc on the fuel system and your injectors. Oh and make sure you disconnect your IMRC if you do just tune it using the FPR only.
So what injectors would you reccomend??
So what injectors would you reccomend??
03-04-2011, 01:32 PM
#66
Lives in Boost
You forgot the end quote tag lol. No worries.
There's a couple of choices:
-RDX injectors (410cc) that can be retrofitted to the CL. This is the least expensive ($40/injector ?) but requires the most work. Rajca made a diy here
-'04? Honda S2K injectors (370cc) are plug and play and are about $90/injector
-RC Engineering (various sizes but most go with 440cc) can provide you with injectors and clips/wires and are around the same price if not a little more than the S2K injectors
To answer your question, I haven't decided. I'd probably go with S2k's since they're direct plug-in's but I'm not sure 370cc will be enough for pushing more than 6psi.
Here's a couple of other links about injectors so you can make an informed decision:
Link 1
Link 2
There's a couple of choices:
-RDX injectors (410cc) that can be retrofitted to the CL. This is the least expensive ($40/injector ?) but requires the most work. Rajca made a diy here
-'04? Honda S2K injectors (370cc) are plug and play and are about $90/injector
-RC Engineering (various sizes but most go with 440cc) can provide you with injectors and clips/wires and are around the same price if not a little more than the S2K injectors
To answer your question, I haven't decided. I'd probably go with S2k's since they're direct plug-in's but I'm not sure 370cc will be enough for pushing more than 6psi.
Here's a couple of other links about injectors so you can make an informed decision:
Link 1
Link 2
03-04-2011, 08:47 PM
#70
[QUOTE=Js03CLS;12757112]
If you are interested, I have some RDX injectors I never got around to installing.
Tuning using the FPR will be OK for the HBP, the problem is the fuel pressure. During WOT it'll be above 80psi, honestly closer to 100 which isn't recommended or optimal. You'd need some larger injectors to offset it as the stock ones will be max'd out. Members have run this setup however without problems, but I'm sure it wreaks havoc on the fuel system and your injectors. Oh and make sure you disconnect your IMRC if you do just tune it using the FPR only.
So what injectors would you reccomend??
So what injectors would you reccomend??
07-29-2011, 08:56 AM
#75
My car is running good, a little belt slippage when the temperature changes alot, but nothing a little tightening won't fix. Registers 6 lbs of boost sometimes only 4 lbs. But she's going well (knock on wood). When you get everything installed, come through, I'd love to feel how different your car feels than mine.
The following users liked this post:
StreetKA (07-29-2011)
07-30-2011, 03:13 PM
#80
Suzuka Master
iTrader: (1)
Doing it this way keeps the integrity of the input shaft seal intact because your not dicking with removing/reinstalling the four longer socket bolts/washers that the directions indicate. Getting your hand(s) under there with an allen wrench to tighten those socketbolts is not fun. Just have an extra set of hands present to help direct/place the pulley end of the blower at the alt. bracket. In addition, once you have the S/C'er unit placed, be sure to go EASY on tightening the two 8mm x 35mm bolts back into the head. The aluminum WILL strip easy, it's very tight/awkward (at the cam plate area) to get a proper torque. Oh yeah, your back may ache just a little after the install; however, hearing that whine makes it all worth it. hehe.
Good luck!
Sorry Rondog, did'nt mean to jack your thread.
The following users liked this post:
StreetKA (07-31-2011)