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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 07:15 AM
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CLS6 - Every bolt-on under the sun

So I've finished all the N/A mods on my car, and though a dyno would be in order. With a NEO tune I pulled 252hp and 223ft-lbs. They didn't adjust the VTEC engagement, since they felt that the car produced a very smooth curve.

http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=ddzzrccs_31q7vc6vpx

I gotta say that I am a little disappointed. I feel like I have seen people dyno right around where I did without a few of the parts I got.

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-4" P2R Intake w/Spacer
-Intake Manifold thermal gasket
-P2R plenums
-bored TB
-XS Headers
-Full CT catback
-RT High flow cat
-UR Crank Pulley

Also, I regapped the valves and changed plugs two weeks ago.
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 09:20 AM
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you should have reset the ECU before the run
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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My ECU did not have more then 20 miles of driving logged after the latest reset.

One point I forgot to mention, the tuner shop did not feel that the NEO would be over-ridden by the ECU since it operates in an open-loop mode at full throttle.
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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no intake? i guess you're missing 1....

damn i thought you'd make more what was she dynoed on?
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 12:19 PM
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I have the 4" P2R intake

A Dynojet
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SkillOBskilled
My ECU did not have more then 20 miles of driving logged after the latest reset.

One point I forgot to mention, the tuner shop did not feel that the NEO would be over-ridden by the ECU since it operates in an open-loop mode at full throttle.
Nice man, how did you like RT Tuning? I will go there soon for dyno tuning. Also, what they said about the ECU seems to be the case with the s2k ECUs also. So I wouldn't be surprised if that is the case with our cars also.
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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looking at ur n/a mods (sorry i was blind, didn't see it) there isn't much to do to our cars... =[

grounding kit? even though it doesn't do much...

the numbers just seem a tad low imo.
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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plenums seem like a waste of $ imo
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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look on the bright side, you made more than horsepowercrzy18 did on his dyno w/ an s/c
He is auto though
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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you have to remember that not every dyno is the same.. and iirc mustang dyno's run less than dynapaks

what you should have done was a baseline and then another after all your mods were installed.. that's all a dyno is good for, really.
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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finally a new dyno around here. nice numbers!
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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I made that. With no 4' intake, no RT cat & no neo.
What are the SAE numbers? You always should post those #'s. They are more accurate.
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 05:57 PM
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Well thats why I said I was disappointed...

Anyway, I don't know what the SAE numbers are. All the local info is on the dyno sheet, I haven't bothered to calc it out.
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 09:57 AM
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I actually dynoed worse with the Random Tech cat as I did before and after, I gained 5hp and 10lbs of torque with the stock cat.
I think the backpressure had something to do with the high flow cat.
I also dynoed better with the Icebox versus the AEM I originally had, only by a few horsepower though.
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 10:11 AM
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jeez if you're only netting 252 with all those bolt ons i don't even want to know what my CL-Pee would dyno

i'm sure she pulls great though
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 04:18 PM
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A bored TB doesnt do any good unless you've bored the inlet on the IM
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 04:20 PM
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skillOBskilled/Moodist could one of you guys tell me where R/T Tuning is located ive heard of the place but i dont know where it is.
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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R/T Tuning is located in Lansdale, I should be going in a couple of weeks:

http://www.rttuning.com/
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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Sonor Kid what was your total dyno......your actual numbers...and great color =D Same as mine!
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 11:54 PM
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dyno

krisdlm:
look on the bright side, you made more than horsepowercrzy18 did on his dyno w/ an s/c. He is auto though

^i retuned and dynod on a dynojet and made 291whp. i do agree that autos cant make hp for shit because the auto cl tranny sucks ass and theres a huge loss of power from the drivetrain which is exactlyyy why im doing a 6 speed swap
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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and listing your car for sale at the same time?
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 03:05 PM
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yep listing my car for sale because i want manual now. i drove a 6 spd tl and it felt faster. im getting an 04 tl 6 speed and either puting the sc on the tl, leaving on my car, or selling it. already found a tl to buy. just seein if anyones interested in my car. if noones interested, im trading my car in. my goal is to have the 04 tl 6spd and supercharge it
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SkillOBskilled
So I've finished all the N/A mods on my car, and though a dyno would be in order. With a NEO tune I pulled 252hp and 223ft-lbs. They didn't adjust the VTEC engagement, since they felt that the car produced a very smooth curve.

http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=ddzzrccs_31q7vc6vpx

I gotta say that I am a little disappointed. I feel like I have seen people dyno right around where I did without a few of the parts I got.

Thoughts / Comments?

-4" P2R Intake w/Spacer
-Intake Manifold thermal gasket
-P2R plenums
-bored TB
-XS Headers
-Full CT catback
-RT High flow cat
-UR Crank Pulley

Also, I regapped the valves and changed plugs two weeks ago.
Thats interesting, I saw your track time thread and with those mods and I would think your car would be capable of doing high 13s.

Currently I'm running with CT (headers, b-pipe, mufflers) as my only mods and I've been able to pull 14.1s in quarter mile with shitty launches. I have a 2.5" test-pipe installed as well.

Theres gotta be something restricting your car from getting maximum performance.
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 10:18 PM
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what is the size of ur exhaust front to back?
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 12:41 AM
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RT cat is actually whats restrictive it has a 2.0" inlet/outlet. Plus you can do some porting and polishing of the IM like me, doing the top helped, didn't notice much with the bottom though. Also lighter wheels/tires, aluminum flywheel with a decent clutch kit (Clutchmasters).

Also seafoam your car
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Accord_V6_400m
RT cat is actually whats restrictive it has a 2.0" inlet/outlet. Plus you can do some porting and polishing of the IM like me, doing the top helped, didn't notice much with the bottom though. Also lighter wheels/tires, aluminum flywheel with a decent clutch kit (Clutchmasters).

Also seafoam your car
Preach on..
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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Sounds like a lot of good info on the mods and such, great reading for a new user! Just starting to mod my CLS and I was hoping to find a P2R 4" intake, but I cant find one anywhere, any thoughts? where did you get yours?
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 10:49 AM
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Can someone inform me of WTF is seafoam lol
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by GRNMCHN03cl
Can someone inform me of WTF is seafoam lol
search the 2nd gen tl forum.
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by LIPPSTUH
search the 2nd gen tl forum.
Ah got it now..did a quick google search. Reminds me of marvel mystery oil. Looks like they have a good line up of products.
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