You think CL's have problems...
10-08-2001, 03:17 PM
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You think CL's have problems...
RSX owners keep blowing their motors!
phil2 blew out his motor this weekend... says he doesnt remember mishifting or anything... just went out.
If you go to RSX forum every other thread is about a blown motor.
I'll take a tranny problem here or there any day
phil2 blew out his motor this weekend... says he doesnt remember mishifting or anything... just went out.
If you go to RSX forum every other thread is about a blown motor.
I'll take a tranny problem here or there any day
10-08-2001, 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by soopa:
<STRONG>RSX owners keep blowing their motors!
phil2 blew out his motor this weekend... says he doesnt remember mishifting or anything... just went out.
If you go to RSX forum every other thread is about a blown motor.
I'll take a tranny problem here or there any day</STRONG>
<STRONG>RSX owners keep blowing their motors!
phil2 blew out his motor this weekend... says he doesnt remember mishifting or anything... just went out.
If you go to RSX forum every other thread is about a blown motor.
I'll take a tranny problem here or there any day
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10-08-2001, 03:21 PM
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Granted and agreed. However, both of the issues are inexcusable by any car company and especially ACURA!!! My car is fine and hasn't missed a beat, but I feel my brother's pain.
10-08-2001, 05:33 PM
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10-08-2001, 05:43 PM
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do you think that Acura has reach the limit of what they can squeeze out of smaller motors without having the parts fail? I'm all for optimizing but sometimes you just need to put better hardware. I heard that these blown motors maybe caused by people missing shifts but who knows.
10-08-2001, 05:51 PM
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Northeast Acura is refusing to replace phil2's motor under warranty.
They forwarded him this fax and told him to contact Acura Client Relations.
OUCH! What is Acura doing!?!? Jeez...
They forwarded him this fax and told him to contact Acura Client Relations.
DATE: August 3, 2001
TO: All Acura Service Managers and Technicians
FROM: American Honda Technical Division
RE: 2002 RSX Type 'S' Cautionary Statement
The new RSX Type 'S' is equipped with a 6-speed manual transmission with close gear ratios and a precision short-throw gearshift linkage. The operating feel of the new gearshift linkage is different than that of previous Acura models, including the Integra and Integra Type R.
Drivers should be cautioned to become fully familiar with the gearshift pattern of the RSX Type 'S' before attempting to shift gears quickly. Mis-shifting to a low gear while at high engine RPM and/or high vehicle speed can result in severe engine damage.
We have received field reports of engine damage to low mileage vehicles. Follow-up investigations now confirm the cause to have been engine over-rev due to mis-shifting.
Engine over-rev damage is not covered under the New Vehicle Limited Warranty.
TO: All Acura Service Managers and Technicians
FROM: American Honda Technical Division
RE: 2002 RSX Type 'S' Cautionary Statement
The new RSX Type 'S' is equipped with a 6-speed manual transmission with close gear ratios and a precision short-throw gearshift linkage. The operating feel of the new gearshift linkage is different than that of previous Acura models, including the Integra and Integra Type R.
Drivers should be cautioned to become fully familiar with the gearshift pattern of the RSX Type 'S' before attempting to shift gears quickly. Mis-shifting to a low gear while at high engine RPM and/or high vehicle speed can result in severe engine damage.
We have received field reports of engine damage to low mileage vehicles. Follow-up investigations now confirm the cause to have been engine over-rev due to mis-shifting.
Engine over-rev damage is not covered under the New Vehicle Limited Warranty.
OUCH! What is Acura doing!?!? Jeez...
10-08-2001, 05:53 PM
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Ya, Ive been around www.clubrsx.com. Lots of people talking about blown engines. I think I heard the number of 15 or so.
10-08-2001, 05:57 PM
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Acutually makes you thankful for the OLE rev Limiter huh ! ?
Originally posted by soopa:
<STRONG>Northeast Acura is refusing to replace phil2's motor under warranty.
They forwarded him this fax and told him to contact Acura Client Relations.
OUCH! What is Acura doing!?!? Jeez...</STRONG>
<STRONG>Northeast Acura is refusing to replace phil2's motor under warranty.
They forwarded him this fax and told him to contact Acura Client Relations.
OUCH! What is Acura doing!?!? Jeez...</STRONG>
10-08-2001, 06:00 PM
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That's a given, man.... Engine's blowing aren't caused by engine problems, it's the driver who is to blame for it! You can't blame acura for giving the people the performance they want! It's a matter of if they know how to use it! High revving engines are sweet and all, but you better be sure you know how to use them..or else...
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This EXACT same thing happened when the Celica 6 speed came out.
How does this happen? I know on my 5 speed 240sx I downshifted to second when I was way over the limit and the car just hit the rev limiter for the split second it took me to figure out I had screwed up. I don't get it--do they jam it into the wrong gear and then not get it out of it asap?
This is the only reason I would be weary of the 6spd CLS. Can you imagine blowing a motor in that baby. Can you say poorhouse?
[ 10-08-2001: Message edited by: JZ ]
How does this happen? I know on my 5 speed 240sx I downshifted to second when I was way over the limit and the car just hit the rev limiter for the split second it took me to figure out I had screwed up. I don't get it--do they jam it into the wrong gear and then not get it out of it asap?
This is the only reason I would be weary of the 6spd CLS. Can you imagine blowing a motor in that baby. Can you say poorhouse?
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10-08-2001, 06:46 PM
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In manual car if you downshift, there is nothing a rev limiter can do to stop it. You are forcing the rpms to do it. I know it happened to me with my GS-R twice.
Thats sucks that so many people are having problems. I dont know..the more I think about it..there is no way in hell my next car will be Honda/Acura. Im moving to the darkside =)
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Thats sucks that so many people are having problems. I dont know..the more I think about it..there is no way in hell my next car will be Honda/Acura. Im moving to the darkside =)
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10-08-2001, 07:19 PM
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Yep =) My next car is definitely going to be German. I think that Honda/Acura lost the reliability that they were known for.
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Originally posted by Zapata:
<STRONG>spiroh,
uh oh! switching from one Axis power to the other?</STRONG>
<STRONG>spiroh,
uh oh! switching from one Axis power to the other?</STRONG>
10-08-2001, 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by spiroh:
<STRONG>Yep =) My next car is definitely going to be German. I think that Honda/Acura lost the reliability that they were known for.
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<STRONG>Yep =) My next car is definitely going to be German. I think that Honda/Acura lost the reliability that they were known for.
Spiro
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10-08-2001, 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by mrdeeno:
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i'd rather have a car from a company that was once known for reliability than a car from a company that was never known for reliability.</STRONG>
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i'd rather have a car from a company that was once known for reliability than a car from a company that was never known for reliability.</STRONG>
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10-08-2001, 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by someguy:
<STRONG>BMW/Mercedes are actually known for their reliablity.
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<STRONG>BMW/Mercedes are actually known for their reliablity.
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10-08-2001, 07:45 PM
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I wouldnt say that BMW and MB never had reliability, because they do.
Originally posted by mrdeeno:
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i'd rather have a car from a company that was once known for reliability than a car from a company that was never known for reliability.</STRONG>
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i'd rather have a car from a company that was once known for reliability than a car from a company that was never known for reliability.</STRONG>
10-08-2001, 07:52 PM
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if these RSX motors are blown, it's because the drivers made a mistake...it's easy to do...my friend balzz did it last week with his GS-R...luckily for him it only broke a couple of vavles...
my saleman at my dealership, lent his RSX-S to a friend, who mis-shifted and blew the motor...
I'm sorry to hear that this has happened to Phil, but can you really expect ACURA to pay for a new motor that is only blown because Phil SCREWED up???
come on Adam....of course he's going to say he did nothing, but motors DO NOT BLOW UP for NO GOOD REASON....
my saleman at my dealership, lent his RSX-S to a friend, who mis-shifted and blew the motor...
I'm sorry to hear that this has happened to Phil, but can you really expect ACURA to pay for a new motor that is only blown because Phil SCREWED up???
come on Adam....of course he's going to say he did nothing, but motors DO NOT BLOW UP for NO GOOD REASON....
10-08-2001, 07:54 PM
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Acura did fic the engine the first time.a one tme good will policy or something like that.
Originally posted by Astroboy:
<STRONG>if these RSX motors are blown, it's because the drivers made a mistake...it's easy to do...my friend balzz did it last week with his GS-R...luckily for him it only broke a couple of vavles...
my saleman at my dealership, lent his RSX-S to a friend, who mis-shifted and blew the motor...
I'm sorry to hear that this has happened to Phil, but can you really expect ACURA to pay for a new motor that is only blown because Phil SCREWED up???
come on Adam....of course he's going to say he did nothing, but motors DO NOT BLOW UP for NO GOOD REASON....</STRONG>
<STRONG>if these RSX motors are blown, it's because the drivers made a mistake...it's easy to do...my friend balzz did it last week with his GS-R...luckily for him it only broke a couple of vavles...
my saleman at my dealership, lent his RSX-S to a friend, who mis-shifted and blew the motor...
I'm sorry to hear that this has happened to Phil, but can you really expect ACURA to pay for a new motor that is only blown because Phil SCREWED up???
come on Adam....of course he's going to say he did nothing, but motors DO NOT BLOW UP for NO GOOD REASON....</STRONG>
10-08-2001, 08:06 PM
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Originally posted by Rod:
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Exactly. I'm thinking I may rather go with a C-class sedan or even a 325Ci, if the 330 is too much, instead of getting another Acura.</STRONG>
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Exactly. I'm thinking I may rather go with a C-class sedan or even a 325Ci, if the 330 is too much, instead of getting another Acura.</STRONG>
fit and finish, i agree bmw/mercedes/audi are better, but long term reliability there may be cases of cars being reliable over the long run, but there is more statistical data supporting honda/acura & toyota/lexus over mb/bmw/audi. they may be above average, and mb is a little higher than the other german makes, but they are still lower. and where's vw?
http://www.jdpa.com/studies_jdpower/...ID=486&CatID=1
i guess what i meant to say is that i'd rather have a car from a company that is statistically "more" reliable than a company "less" reliable.
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BMW/Mercedes are actually known for their reliablity. My dad put 340K on his 533i
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BMW/Mercedes are actually known for their reliablity. My dad put 340K on his 533i
we have a '90 560sel with about 25k miles on it...we bought it new and used it as a weekender and a once in a while car and never abused. it's sitting in a garage and can't be started because there's a short somewhere.
we have a '94 sl500 with about 40k miles...bought new. had a misfiring problem 2 years into it. right after the warranty ran out, it happened again. it cost an arm and a leg to get that fixed.
we have a '00 s500 without any problems yet. but it's pretty new so can't really prove reliability either way.
i have 2 negative cases against your 1 positive. see how non-statistical data doesn't hold?
and what about this? http://www.autonews.com/article.cms?...5806&a=a&bt=x5
x5 recalled 9 times already.
those x5 owners are probably walking around grunting, "should've waited for the mdx should've waited for the mdx should've waited for the mdx..."
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10-08-2001, 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by mrdeeno:
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10-08-2001, 08:35 PM
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The best way to tell whether a car is well built is to open and close the door. A German car's door will close like a bank vault. An Acura/Honda door will sound like a Yugo.
10-08-2001, 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by hawkeye:
<STRONG>The best way to tell whether a car is well built is to open and close the door. A German car's door will close like a bank vault. An Acura/Honda door will sound like a Yugo.</STRONG>
<STRONG>The best way to tell whether a car is well built is to open and close the door. A German car's door will close like a bank vault. An Acura/Honda door will sound like a Yugo.</STRONG>
clearly you've never had to pick up a yugo door off the ground after closing it too hard...
10-08-2001, 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by hawkeye:
<STRONG>The best way to tell whether a car is well built is to open and close the door. A German car's door will close like a bank vault. An Acura/Honda door will sound like a Yugo.</STRONG>
<STRONG>The best way to tell whether a car is well built is to open and close the door. A German car's door will close like a bank vault. An Acura/Honda door will sound like a Yugo.</STRONG>
again, there is a difference between "fit and finish" and "reliability". the engine can close as "thunky" as it wants, but after 5-10 years, if the engine doesn't turn, you can at least go around saying, "my door still "thunks" better than yours!"
10-08-2001, 10:12 PM
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Originally posted by Astroboy:
<STRONG>I'm sorry to hear that this has happened to Phil, but can you really expect ACURA to pay for a new motor that is only blown because Phil SCREWED up???
come on Adam....of course he's going to say he did nothing, but motors DO NOT BLOW UP for NO GOOD REASON....</STRONG>
<STRONG>I'm sorry to hear that this has happened to Phil, but can you really expect ACURA to pay for a new motor that is only blown because Phil SCREWED up???
come on Adam....of course he's going to say he did nothing, but motors DO NOT BLOW UP for NO GOOD REASON....</STRONG>
I'm not sayin Phil isn't a dumbass.... Phil IS a dumbass
but umm, damn... I'm not bashin Acura reliability either... but I think they should be doing something to facilitate morons!
10-08-2001, 10:18 PM
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I stand corrected. Closing the door is a measure of quality and not reliability. Although in Acura's case I do feel quality ties in with reliability - cost cutting does have disadvantages.
10-08-2001, 10:36 PM
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Originally posted by hawkeye:
<STRONG>I stand corrected. Closing the door is a measure of quality and not reliability. Although in Acura's case I do feel quality ties in with reliability - cost cutting does have disadvantages.</STRONG>
<STRONG>I stand corrected. Closing the door is a measure of quality and not reliability. Although in Acura's case I do feel quality ties in with reliability - cost cutting does have disadvantages.</STRONG>
i think the thing that makes a door "thump" though is the insulation on the door as well as the seal.
the doors on our benz has like really thick seals that cushion the door when it's closed, so there's no "tinny" sound. the cl-s has these thin strips of rubber.
i'm sure the rl has at least thicker rubber, and i think the tl doesn't sound as bad as a cl because the doors are lighter.
10-08-2001, 10:37 PM
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Originally posted by soopa:
<STRONG>I'm not bashin Acura reliability either... but I think they should be doing something to facilitate morons!</STRONG>
<STRONG>I'm not bashin Acura reliability either... but I think they should be doing something to facilitate morons!
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That's why our cars upshift automatically from 1st to 2nd in sport shift.
10-08-2001, 11:17 PM
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HEY EVERYBODY
thanks for the sympathy i really appreciate it.....my girl was driving so it was driver error!!!
btw...soopa im not a dumbass so GFYS HATER...ASS HOW U GONNA HATE LIKE THAT....DAMN MAN U A "TRUE" FRIEND!
thanks for the sympathy
i really appreciate it.....my girl was driving so it was driver error!!!btw...soopa im not a dumbass so GFYS HATER...ASS HOW U GONNA HATE LIKE THAT....DAMN MAN U A "TRUE" FRIEND!
10-09-2001, 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by phil2:
<STRONG>btw...soopa im not a dumbass so GFYS HATER...ASS HOW U GONNA HATE LIKE THAT....DAMN MAN U A "TRUE" FRIEND!</STRONG>
<STRONG>btw...soopa im not a dumbass so GFYS HATER...ASS HOW U GONNA HATE LIKE THAT....DAMN MAN U A "TRUE" FRIEND!
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Dont be mad cuz I got a PHD.
