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ThinJim 03-06-2005 04:54 AM

good job ram.. pretty soon it will be common place to turbo cls'sssss

speak more of the transmission.
were any internal mods to the motor done?
if so, what? and what compression is this motor if you did internals?

i noticed that you ran the piping similar to your setup. i'm wondering why you chose to run the exhaust manifold from the front rather than run it in from the rear and out the front?

LiLCL2.2bOI 03-06-2005 06:44 AM

Sups pplz... hey its my first time in this site.... yeah I became a member.... talk to you pplz laterz

JaredGMS 03-06-2005 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by LiLCL2.2bOI
Sups pplz... hey its my first time in this site.... yeah I became a member.... talk to you pplz laterz

wow...that was an important contribution to this, the MOST important of threads...:doh: :tomato:


Oh, and welcome :wave:

6peedSleepR 03-06-2005 09:44 AM

dood thats such a clean turbo set-up!

joedokes28 03-06-2005 09:45 AM

That's Logan's car (MTBIKR)

That crazy SOB.

allmotor_2000 03-06-2005 10:34 AM

Thinjim - Both manifolds are collected and they feed the turbo, so it doesn't matter where the turbo is... all six cylinders and pumping air into it, not that three.

allmotor_2000 03-06-2005 10:34 AM

Who has the quickest/fastest auto CL-S.... watch out, this car is gonna whoop some a** ;)

allmotor_2000 03-06-2005 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by m&b6speed
sick, how long was the build up process

From the day I took the S/C out, its 1 month - it could be done in 3 weeks, but we did some extra stuff on this car - I still have about 4-6hrs worth of work left.

mrsteve 03-06-2005 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
Who has the quickest/fastest auto CL-S.... watch out, this car is gonna whoop some a** ;)


:scared:

SCTL-SS 03-06-2005 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by mrsteve
:scared:


Same here :nervous: :ninja:

mrsteve 03-06-2005 11:04 AM

Can't wait to see how traction is with this setup.

SCTL-SS 03-06-2005 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by mrsteve
Can't wait to see how traction is with this setup.

The auto will certainly help. His tranny, the" reinforced transmission", is very similar to mine-done by the same shop.

Cruz_msl 03-06-2005 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by mrsteve
Can't wait to see how traction is with this setup.

Too bad all that heavy stereo eq. is'nt in the front somewhere. I can't wait to see vids.

PS: Mrsteve, I know it's getting close to opening day at Capital......you should bring a vid cam on your next few runs.

allmotor_2000 03-06-2005 11:17 AM

Just kidding boyz ;)

mrsteve 03-06-2005 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by Cruz_msl
Too bad all that heavy stereo eq. is'nt in the front somewhere. I can't wait to see vids.

PS: Mrsteve, I know it's getting close to opening day at Capital......you should bring a vid cam on your next few runs.


Not to hijack...


Capital was supposed to open today, but they were calling for some snow this weekend so they canceled. Next weekend i'll be in Vegas, the following weekend i'll be installing the IC (I've been waiting for warmer weather). So no track numbers or videos until the end of March.

I'm just hoping I get everything done in time to beat mattg for the 1st Auto CL-S to hit <13.00

allmotor_2000 03-06-2005 11:46 AM

Man... all you mofo's are going to be running 12's.

Blue - what do you say about popping in that 7psi spring, some 100-octane?

ThinJim 03-06-2005 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
Thinjim - Both manifolds are collected and they feed the turbo, so it doesn't matter where the turbo is... all six cylinders and pumping air into it, not that three.


I know that. Nevermind anyway.

What about the other questions I asked. Can you shed some light on them or is it a secret?

speak more of the transmission.
were any internal mods to the motor done?
if so, what? and what compression is this motor if you did internals?

What say you?

Good job! i'm dying to get mine going.

allmotor_2000 03-06-2005 11:49 AM

Motor is stock, no internal work whatsoever... hence compression is stock as well. You could turn the turbo around, but good luck getting that to fit!

mrsteve 03-06-2005 11:54 AM

The transmission is built with kevlar clutch packs, LSD, higher stall torque converter, etc.

typeR 03-06-2005 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by mrsteve
The transmission is built with kevlar clutch packs, LSD, higher stall torque converter, etc.

i talked to the guys that do the transmissions for VR and they said theres no LSD

mrsteve 03-06-2005 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by typeR
i talked to the guys that do the transmissions for VR and they said theres no LSD


Hmmm must have been a myth all along then?

cltypeSLOW 03-06-2005 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by freshCLS
:idhitit: how much $$$$$$ for a project of that nature???????
Now that's what's suuuuuup!!!! Dyno! Dyno! Dyno!


Read man just read.... he already said that its $8K+ installed... if you don't want the injector, cutout and other fancy stuff, maybe less.

MtBikR 03-06-2005 12:46 PM

What's up friends? Ram did an amazing job one this project. We have been in talks for many months and it has finaly come to fruition. I can't wait to get the car back and I will try and get it to the Phx track. It has been run before with the massive weight additions, stereo & rims. The direct port nitrous had to be disconnected until a new mounting spot for the solenoids can be found. But it will be reconnected once the car gets back to scottsdale and I'll get a turbo/nitrous dyno done. I will however be able to swing a screaming deal on the S/C, may it bring as much joy to others as it has to me. Again, after all the time and effort, I must thank Ramanan for taking this from his vision to reality. Now the door is wide open!

outdate sig :(

allmotor_2000 03-06-2005 02:10 PM

The fabricator (although real tough to deal with) does great work! :thumbsup:

manitou 03-06-2005 03:58 PM

Beautiful, I'd like to do that to my 6speed.
Fantastic work.
Can't wait to see the numbers it puts down.
How do you handle all the TQ given fwd?

Moodist 03-06-2005 04:03 PM

looks VERY clean

ThinJim 03-06-2005 04:27 PM

I've been looking over your design and have a question regarding your choice of placement and angle of the wastegate. It's hard to see from just the standpoint of looking at the pics, but here goes.


I think the wastegate bleed angle should be more symmetric with the flow of exhaust gases. It looks like it's the complete opposite of the way it should be sitting. Did you use/fabricate a wastegate adapter? Like I said, hard to tell. It looks like it is fabricated at about a ??angle with the flow rather than say about a 45 angle to capture the exhaust gases more effeciently. Just wondering.

Also, it looks like the fitment of an air cleaner is going to be tough. Pictures are deceiving though.

What an acheivement Ram. I'll bet that car sounds awesome under WOT. Change your name to RamAir.

allmotor_2000 03-06-2005 04:34 PM

The wastegate is a tad abrubt - but at 5-8psi it doesn't matter. It's the same on mine
as well. When you are trying to fit all this stuff given the space constraints... you compromise somewhat. If this was boosting 20-30psi, then this might be of concern for boost creep. However, it is not going the opposite way...
The picture is deceiving - the pipe is near to 90-degrees verticle as it enters the turbo, so the wastegate is tilted upwards... the pipe does take a bend pretty quickly though.

The air-cleaner fits fine... it comes in tomorrow. I have a 4" fitting for the vacuum hoses etc.

allmotor_2000 03-06-2005 04:37 PM

Just finihsed installing the wiring for the exhaust cutout and 2nd injector. Car sounds pretty mean... :)

ThinJim 03-06-2005 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
The wastegate is a tad abrubt - but at 5-8psi it doesn't matter. It's the same on mine
as well. When you are trying to fit all this stuff given the space constraints... you compromise somewhat. If this was boosting 20-30psi, then this might be of concern for boost creep. However, it is not going the opposite way...
The picture is deceiving - the pipe is near to 90-degrees verticle as it enters the turbo, so the wastegate is tilted upwards... the pipe does take a bend pretty quickly though.

The air-cleaner fits fine... it comes in tomorrow. I have a 4" fitting for the vacuum hoses etc.

Cool, i know it's a tight fit, and 419 WHP is nothing to sneezee at.

Did you experiment with trying to place/rotate the turbo so as to plumb the exhaust from the rear rather than the front of the car? I'm looking at running the exhaust from the rear of the block upwards and discharging it in the front similar to what you have done. Up in back, down in front, a loop. I'm putting the IC where the resonator use to be to give you a bigger picture.

What kind of wastegate it that? I'll bet it sounds like satin WOT

allmotor_2000 03-06-2005 04:48 PM

It's a Garrett/Tial WG. I was hesitant to run hot exhaust gas from the rear of the car - plus there is no room there and too many awkward bends.

There are always some compromises in each kit... this one for example of fog-lights up front, so the piping/bend of the IC piping is also not as gradual as mine.

If you were going for ultimate power, you can have gradual bend radii on everything and do all sorts of cool stuff.

ThinJim 03-06-2005 04:55 PM

I'll see when I get there, nothings ever easy and that's proven itself with this motor and the lack of off the shelf performance parts. It's coming along though. Post dyno on this beast when you can. take care

ThinJim 03-06-2005 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
It's a Garrett/Tial WG. I was hesitant to run hot exhaust gas from the rear of the car - plus there is no room there and too many awkward bends.

There are always some compromises in each kit... this one for example of fog-lights up front, so the piping/bend of the IC piping is also not as gradual as mine.

If you were going for ultimate power, you can have gradual bend radii on everything and do all sorts of cool stuff.


I'll see when I get there, nothings ever easy and that's proven itself with this motor and the lack of off the shelf performance parts. It's coming along though. Post dyno on this beast when you can. take care

Red-CL 03-06-2005 04:59 PM

Somebody loan me 8 grand. :wish:

Nice job Ram. :thumbsup:

BlueCLS6 03-06-2005 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
Blue - what do you say about popping in that 7psi spring, some 100-octane?

In my car or in the auto? I have the 7.25psi sitting right in front of me here :) Going to ~8psi on 100octane and it could probably hit 460-480whp :wish:. I STILL need to tune my car. Roommate just got a laptop so I can start screwing around with stuff now... I need to do something because a friend of mine just dynoed his EP3 Civic Si (K24 + JRSC) at an untuned 311whp/241wTQ!

allmotor_2000 03-06-2005 05:23 PM

Either of ours... :D

mattg 03-06-2005 05:30 PM

is the old blower bracket coming off the car, or is it being used?

poisx7 03-06-2005 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
Thinjim - Both manifolds are collected and they feed the turbo, so it doesn't matter where the turbo is... all six cylinders and pumping air into it, not that three.


that 4 sure is gonna spank some ass.... :ugh:

poisx7 03-06-2005 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by SCTL-SS
The auto will certainly help. His tranny, the" reinforced transmission", is very similar to mine-done by the same shop.

how does the auto help compared to the manual....
tarction wise

poisx7 03-06-2005 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by Red-CL
Somebody loan me 8 grand. :wish:

Nice job Ram. :thumbsup:

i will just sign here and send me ur name and info
:wish: :wish:


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