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Old 07-08-2004, 09:55 AM
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what's faster???

What would win…an ’03 CL-S 6MT or an ’88 Mustang LX?
I ask b/c I know someone with this Stang who likes to talk shit.
Old 07-08-2004, 10:01 AM
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Im going to say the stang. The LX model in 88 is a 5.0. So off the line maybe he'll get you but top end you'll probably take him after the 1/4 mile. But maybe a stock 88 is probably a cow by now depending in what condition its in.
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Is it a V8 or the 4 banger? I think in either form the CL will win. Stock for stock.
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I ran a 5.0 LX that belonged to a friend. I got him by a few car lengths although he jumped about a half a car off the line. I was in my modded TL-P. I ran him again a few days ago with the Trans Am. It was a joke. I gave him a head start and blew his doors off. Dont sleep on modded ones though. They can chew up and spit out some of the fastest cars out.
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Mechanically the stang is really nice for an '88. He works on it himself and knows what he's doing.
And ya, they're both stock. Don't think it's a V8 though.
Old 07-08-2004, 10:42 AM
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if its not the v8 then you will smoke him without a problem.
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5.0 modded > everything else
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Don't lose McNabb! You'll take him
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OMG, you will murder him. they have like 205 horsepower and absoutly suck after 2nd gear. i kill 98 gts with headers and exhaust from anywhere except off the line. even off the line i am passin them at 30. and that was with intake on my automatic. if he has anything short of head work you will show him your tail.
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Heavily modded 5.0's are insanely fast. I've seen one spinning tires from a 50-mph roll start, and I'm talking SPINNING the tires. It was sick. My buddy driving his '01 WS6, lightly modded, was laughing at how shitty it looked, then shut up really quick as soon as he saw the monster doing a burn-out while going 50 mph. Hahaha!!

But... in stock or near stock form, the 5.0 is nothing to fear. I even staged against a moderately modded 5.0 Cobra and I only lost by one-tenth with a shitty launch. On the street from a roll, I would've taken him out.

Good luck and have fun. Let us know whoat it goes.
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OMG, you will murder him. they have like 205 horsepower and absoutly suck after 2nd gear. i kill 98 gts with headers and exhaust from anywhere except off the line. even off the line i am passin them at 30. and that was with intake on my automatic. if he has anything short of head work you will show him your tail.

Yeah, except the 4.6 really sucks. The 5.0 is a mod monster -- it responds really well to mods and has a huge potential, whereas the 4.6 just sounds nice.
Old 07-08-2004, 12:07 PM
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If he's modded you are done...
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Originally Posted by rezurex
smoke 'im! make us proud


Originally Posted by mc222
If you lose I'm changing your avator!
haaaa, but damn you really could...I'll dedicate this one to the Philly guys.



and EL905, you know whose stang i'm talking about!!!
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But they really have only 205 horses?
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I could swear the LX's were the 4 cylinders, maybe even the 4cyl turbo's. because I remember hearing from a friend who likes stangs that people usually get LX bodys and swap 5.0's into them because the LX's are lighter than the actual 5.0 models.
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Originally Posted by SG81
But they really have only 205 horses?
If this is a non-LX5.0 then it would be a 4-banger. The base 1988 LX was a 2.4L I4 rated at like 130 HP. Why is this even a discussion if it is not the 5.0L V8???
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It is the 5 litre, but i'm not sure about the V8, oh and it's non turbo.
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Originally Posted by SG81
It is the 5.0, but i'm not sure about the V8, oh and non turbo.
The only V8 engine for the Mustang at the time was the 5.0L.

What were you thinking, a 5.0L 4 or 6 cylinder??
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In 1990 the 5.0 LX had 300lb-FT torque and 225HP. It could be interesting with that much torque, and the car is also under 2800lbs in the hatchback model.
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Originally Posted by scalbert
What were you thinking, a 5.0L 4 or 6 cylinder??
honestly, I thought it was a 6 cylinder
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And ya, they're both stock. Don't think it's a V8 though.
No contest.
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My 85 LX had a 3.6-V6. It was slow.
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That would be the biggest 6 cyl. in the world, wouldn't it? The highest displacement on a 6 cyl I've heard of it something like 4.5L.

In any case, as a general assumption, any high displacement domestic engine will respond pretty well to mods, especially FI ones.
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Originally Posted by goldmemberer
That would be the biggest 6 cyl. in the world, wouldn't it? The highest displacement on a 6 cyl I've heard of it something like 4.5L.
fu*k, i guess it is an 8 cyl.
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Originally Posted by anothercls
In 1990 the 5.0 LX had 300lb-FT torque and 225HP. It could be interesting with that much torque, and the car is also under 2800lbs in the hatchback model.

a friend of mine used to have one of those.

it will destroy a cl.
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I used to have a 97 Mustang GT with the 4.6 and it really was nothing special after second gear. If it is a 5.0, it will probably be a really good race. Let us know who wins.
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I have a 94 GT 5.0, that with only gears/exhaust/ and drag radials runs 14.0 just about every time down. If he is absolutely bone stock you may win, but not by much. Also is it a 5 speed or auto, it makes a huge difference.

5 speed = 14.5-14.7 @ 95mph
Auto = 14.9 - 15.2 @ 92mph, dependant on condition of tranny

I dont think there are any BONE STOCK Fox body 5.0's out there anymore, so odds are he has some mods and if you say it is tuned well you will probably lose. If he doesnt spin like crazy and doesnt miss his shifts he'll get a decent jump, probably 1-2 car lengths, and pull away slowly.

And 96-98 GT's are dogs, even modded. I beat a 5 speed in my gf's bone stock 03 Maxima auto 14.9 to his 15.1. Plus they dont respond to mods like the 302's do.
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ok so I asked and it is the 5.0, 8 cylinder.
Motor is all stock, but it has the exhaust done. They're both manual tranny's.
what do you guys think?
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Originally Posted by goldmemberer
That would be the biggest 6 cyl. in the world, wouldn't it? The highest displacement on a 6 cyl I've heard of it something like 4.5L.
In the early 90's the F-150 base engine was a 4.9L inline 6...

On topic - is the 88 5.0 fuel injected? I know in the mid 80's GM was selling the 305 in both FI and carburated versions.
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Originally Posted by SG81
ok so I asked and it is the 5.0, 8 cylinder.
Motor is all stock, but it has the exhaust done. They're both manual tranny's.
what do you guys think?
Get a good launch and the race is over.
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u should take him up top if u get the launch down right
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Originally Posted by clorich
On topic - is the 88 5.0 fuel injected? I know in the mid 80's GM was selling the 305 in both FI and carburated versions.
From what I recall the '87/'88 5.0 is EFI but used speed density. I beleive in '89 they went with a MAF based EFI system.
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Originally Posted by SG81
ok so I asked and it is the 5.0, 8 cylinder.
Motor is all stock, but it has the exhaust done. They're both manual tranny's.
what do you guys think?
I dunno, if that 5.0 LX is running well and has some decent exhaust work he might just take you. It really should be a driver's race IMO.

And are you sure that is all he has done to it?? Seems surprising that he leaft it that alone.
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Honestly with the mustang it all depends if it's a 5-speed or AOD. If it's AOD and not that modded, it would be close (AOD 5.0's are really slow unless a lot is done to the tranny). Remember, a stock 5L mustang AOD would run a high 14 or low 15 at the track on a good day. Convertible AOD's would run 15.6-15.8! BUT if it's a 5spd then watch out! I use to own 2 mustangs and did everything you can think of to them. My friend's 91 coupe with only a k&n filter catback exhaust would do 14.1 @ 99 all day long!
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