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Old 04-29-2002 | 10:39 PM
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what tire size ?

would a 225-45-17 be better than the stock 215-50-17 ?
wouldn't the 225 give more traction and be better for high speed turning..
What tire do you guys recommend??
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Old 04-30-2002 | 02:15 PM
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Old 04-30-2002 | 02:16 PM
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Maybe you could try a search?
Old 04-30-2002 | 02:19 PM
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Old 04-30-2002 | 02:30 PM
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I went with Toyo Proxes FZ4 225-45-17...all in all better traction and great response. dont stay with the stock specs
Old 04-30-2002 | 02:55 PM
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I did Toyo Proxes T1's in 235-45-17. I'm very happy! Most anything other then the stock tires are better. These tires also come in stock size. A 225 tire will be a little more off with the speedo, then the 235.
Old 04-30-2002 | 03:07 PM
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why stop at 225'z!

get 245/45/17's

they are sickkkkkk


and they work well
Old 04-30-2002 | 06:33 PM
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235 45 man thats a big size. Iran that size on a 8.5 width wheel
ours are 7 if not 6.5 .. doesn't that look bulky?
I was thinking 225-45 would keep the speedo in check and give better respnse
Old 04-30-2002 | 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by Z
235 45 man thats a big size. Iran that size on a 8.5 width wheel
ours are 7 if not 6.5 .. doesn't that look bulky?
I was thinking 225-45 would keep the speedo in check and give better respnse
People here been on 235/45 and have not heard of any problems yet. These are the size I am planning getting too. Also, these give you closier to speedo. Here is the link: http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
Old 04-30-2002 | 06:55 PM
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Yeah, many people have run 235s on their stock rims with no problems. When I went tire shopping, i talked with three different shops, all of which said that a 235 series is too big for our 7" rims. The minimum size needed is a 7.5". Obviously people have had success with 235s on there stock rims, so don't let that scare you away...

I went with a 225/50 and it's just fine... Actually the speedo. runs slow, so I'll be saving miles in the long run.
Old 04-30-2002 | 09:30 PM
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I put Bridgestone Turanza 235/45*17 on the stock 7" momo rims - love the tire - no they don't look bulky.
Old 05-01-2002 | 08:52 PM
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check my sig, no problems and they stick out further then rimes, no scratches
Old 05-02-2002 | 03:43 AM
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Originally posted by Scrib
Yeah, many people have run 235s on their stock rims with no problems. When I went tire shopping, i talked with three different shops, all of which said that a 235 series is too big for our 7" rims. The minimum size needed is a 7.5". Obviously people have had success with 235s on there stock rims, so don't let that scare you away...

I went with a 225/50 and it's just fine... Actually the speedo. runs slow, so I'll be saving miles in the long run.

The 235/45-17 works fine on the stock 7" wide rims. The minimum recommended size is 7.5". However, there are a number of car manufacturer's that have done gone with rims that have been 1/2" too narrow (a year or two of the BMW M3 -- and that's a car that BMW expects people to "thrash")

The only issue of concern with the 235/45-17s (in some models) concerns alignments. The Toyos T1S in the 235/45-17 is a very tight fit between the rim's lip and the tire's sidewall/rim protector. It makes for a "pain in the ass" alignment (long story, and can be found via search).

So, I've told some people to just get the 225/45-17s in the S-03 (since they are a rather FAT tire) and all tires with the same designation and recommended rim range do not all have the same tread width and section width.

I have seen a number of people go with the 225/50-17 Pilot A/S and I'm sure that’s fine. It will increase the front-to-rear and side-to-side contact patch, but will also increase your chance of getting a speeding ticket (well, not by much). The larger diameter tires do have the effect of reducing your gas mileage MORE than a 235/45-17 and do reduce the amount of effective torque to the road. However, I would probably think about getting that brand of tire for my car if I was in a mixed snow/dry environment where the snow wasn't too bad, and there were "spells" of nice, long dry periods in the winter (mixed-in with light to medium snow)... (I would be a pain in the ass to constantly change from summer to snow tires if you had to due it every week or two…)
Old 05-02-2002 | 03:47 AM
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Originally posted by DreamU
I put Bridgestone Turanza 235/45*17 on the stock 7" momo rims - love the tire - no they don't look bulky.
17" MOMO's look pretty good... but they were not stock. Have you thought about lowering?
Old 05-02-2002 | 08:15 AM
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I thought you didn't need an alignment with just swapping tires. If the car is lowered yeah, but not for just changing tires. At least I didn't. Mine are also balanced very well too.
Old 05-02-2002 | 10:06 PM
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I thought you didn't need an alignment with just swapping tires. If the car is lowered yeah, but not for just changing tires. At least I didn't. Mine are also balanced very well too.
That's not what I'm conveying...

IF and ONLY IF you need an alignment (as in the future), you might find that some of the 235/45-17s on stock rims will be a pain in the butt to align. (The fit is tight and the process of setting up the alignment can scratch the stock wheels' clear coat near the area where the sidewall meets the wheels' flange.

You aren't going to tell me that you don't plan on ever getting another alignment (yes/no?)

AND, no you don't need an alignment when you replace rims or tires -- I sure don't. However, even stock springs settle and bushings get worn out, so a periodic alignment is not a waste of money (IMO)
Old 05-02-2002 | 10:31 PM
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NateCLS: I stand corrected - the momo's are not stock rims. I tend to call em that only because the Acura dealer sold em to me as part of the new car package. Do all Acura dealers sell momo's for the CL-S?

EricL: I had a wheel alignment done last weekend with the Turanza 235/45*17 on the car. No complaints from the dealer so their profile must not make the alignment too much more difficult. And these guys would complain - they refused to balance my tires once becuase they were out of round! As you said, 'some models', so I'm happy not to have to fight another battle with my dealer.
Old 05-02-2002 | 11:10 PM
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NateCLS: I stand corrected - the momo's are not stock rims. I tend to call em that only because the Acura dealer sold em to me as part of the new car package. Do all Acura dealers sell momo's for the CL-S?

EricL: I had a wheel alignment done last weekend with the Turanza 235/45*17 on the car. No complaints from the dealer so their profile must not make the alignment too much more difficult. And these guys would complain - they refused to balance my tires once becuase they were out of round! As you said, 'some models', so I'm happy not to have to fight another battle with my dealer.
Well, you can probably add the 235/45-17 Turanzas to the "easy to align on stock wheels list" (depending on what gear they used)…

Wait a minute -- are you talking about the Momo 7" rims? The OEM 7" rims have a "funny" lip that is different from most of the wheels I've looked at...

AND (if your talking 2001 Acura CL Type-S factory 17x7" rims)

The Toyos have a rather thick sidewall protector (as in very thick). Tires like the RE-730, for example, have a rim protector that is midway up the sidewall and doesn't have any impact on how tight the "space" is between the wheel's flange and the sidewall.

The fit between the sidewall of the Toyo 235/45-17 T1S and OEM rim looks like an oil, fluid or gas seal; it is really that tight (you would have trouble getting a very fine feeler guage into the "margin"/"gap". As a result, if an alignment shop needs to get the "laser calipers" into the "margin" between the rim and sidewall, they have to FORCE it (that's what they told me and that's what they told Technique). This means possible scratches. (You notice I didn't SAY scratches for sure, just possible scratches). Technique, who has not been around in a long time, was the first to tell me this, and I then went hunting around alignment shops for answers. The alignment folks first said "Hey, no problem..." until I "pushed" one of the guys to actually have a closer look. Then I got a, "Well, we might put some scratches in your rim..."

I like the Toyos and the worked great on the stock wheels. Just some cautionary notes... I hope you understand that I'm not implicating ALL brands of 235/45-17s on OEM rims AND some types of alignment machinery may not care about this issue...
Old 05-03-2002 | 12:39 AM
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NateCLS: I stand corrected - the momo's are not stock rims. I tend to call em that only because the Acura dealer sold em to me as part of the new car package. Do all Acura dealers sell momo's for the CL-S?
Yes, as far as I can tell my dealer installed the MOMO's that are on my car, but I bought and paid for the car secondhand and attempted to figure this out later. Either way you can't go wrong with the upgrade... They had the MOMO's in the sales department, mine were like $2,700/set.
Would I have paid that much....
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