yeah, what he said.

 

It's already been said, but this thread is great.. seeing some commons problems the CL has. I've only had mine for about a week and coming from a 92 Legend LS Sedan, I'm happy with the performance increase. I don't mod my car cause I dont have the cash. This car was the perfect price for performance/luxury/comfort comparison.

I gotta admit the bose speakers leave something to be desired so who knows once I can get some cash saved up after buying this beast. The ride, steering, and acceleration feels much tighter than the Legend. That was definetly one amazing car, I'll never forget it, but the CL is so much better in so many ways.

The turning radius isn't quite as tight as the Legend though, so that's a bummer but who cares. The engine has plenty of power for me, but hey seems like most of you all have driven BMWs, etc.. so maybe I've never been "pampered" before. I've got a navigation system, tinted windows, no scratches on body or tires, this car was taken care of before I got my hands on it.

All in all, for at least a week, I've been damn happy with my purchase :-D

 

i've had mine for 8 days now and i like it more and more everyday

 

Ya i agree, is there ANY WAY to improve it any bit? Not exagerating being completely serrious, my escalade can make a smaller u-turn (taking up almost two lanes) opposed to my cl (2- 2 1/2 lanes)

Also the metal is so weak it dents sooooo easily compared to the other hondas, cadilacs, and fords at my house.

 

 

Buick Century ass end

 

I have a first gen and i LOVE the ass on mine

 

the only dislike..... no supercharger or custom turbo strapped on it right now.

 

With all that said and all the dislikes I have I am about 97% happy with my purchase. There are VERY few cars that have the quality, performance, and safety of the 2nd gen CL-S for under $30k.

 

rattle! i cant believe this is so common
no ground/lip kit like TL :sqntfawk:
no telescoping wheel
occasional right mirror malfunction
plain interior
02 tails (looking for 03s)

but overall, i love my cl!!!

 

The paint is poor quality and too soft . Chips easily.
The front brake rotors warp with normal driving.
Eratic transmission.
Other than that I'm quite happy with the car.
It's a good value for the money.

 

My 2001 (July 2000)
-Driver seatbelt don't retract correctly.
-The pleather part of the driver seat is cracking on the left corner under my left thigh.
-Rear seats should fold down.
-auto-up windows (both)
-better cup holder.

So far so good at 85k miles.

 

driver seatbelt,kinda heavy =D,cupholder

 

I forgot about the lack of auto up/down pass window and lack of fold down seat. I miss the fold down seat because you lose alot of bass through the seat cushions.

 

1. Weak at tranny, should have waited for 6spd.
2. Rattles Galore!!!!!!
3. Soft ass suspension for "sportier" model.
4. Shitty ROAD LAMPS!


Other than that, I love my car.

 

'01 CL-S (65K)

Paint terrible (silver)
Wheels damage easily
Michelins are expensive delicate crap -- I replaced w/ Conti Extreme Contacts: much better and half the price
Tangling seatbelts
Rotors warp at the drop of a hat
Roaring sunroof (small opening too)
Rattles
Foglites like xmas lites (last as long, too)
Sequential shifter tries to out think you
Rearview mirrors obstruct vision
Climate control weak

 

What exactly is the malfunction on your mirror?

You have yours on 19's, is it lowered at all?

 

I'm amazed at all of the references to rattles.

I don't hear any rattles in my '01 cls (72k miles). Maybe I've been lucky, or maybe I have beans in my ears?!?

 

mirror = with the switch in the center, my right mirror does not go down once in a while when reversing. i haven't figured out the pattern.

yes...it's on 19s and lowered. i do want to lower the rear a finger or two though...

the rattle is driving me CrAzY!!! it sounds like it's coming from the rear...near the back window, but when i have a passenger in the back, i turn off the radio and they have said it sounds like it's coming from the front. what??? unbelieveable how many on this thread have complained about the rattles. i just put up the radio

love my cl though...

 

Saw your other post about the mirror, put my response on there.

I've never had a problem with the rattle. Maybe I can get it to rattle once I put some speakers in there.

I do hate the damn squeekin noise that my seat makes. The lever that adjusts the lumbar support on the driver seat rubs against center console with where I have the seat adjusted to. That drives me nuts, haven't figured out a way to get rid of it without takin off the lumbar lever. hmmmm :sqnteek:

I can't stand the "fog lights", but I'm takin care of those this weekend.

Otherwise, I love my CL, knew I was going to buy it the minute I sat in it.

 

now that i think about it, i have that squeak in my driver seat also. sux!

the first week i got my cl, i had to upgrade the fogs. the factory ones were really weak. i bought piaa bulbs and they made a big difference.

 

1.Front Wheel Drive :sqntfawk:
2.Exaust doesnt sound good until 4,000 rpm with headers
3.I would say all of the noises but i always have the music too loud to hear


Otherwise i love the CL!!

 

I'd have to go with the self warping rotors - on my 4th set of warrany rotors at 44K. The crystalline transmission was a fun experience too -replaced at 23K. And really, is there ANY difference between the CL-P and CL-S suspensions? My CL-S corners like a Sea-Ray rounding a buoy if im over 25 miles an hour. But it is the epitome of a highway rocket - I can make the 400 mile Charlotte-DC trip in 5 hours without stopping and not feel like i've been driving.

 

17x7 stock rims. Shoulda gave us 18's. Tranny is garbage and no middle seat in the back.

 

WOW, THAT's ALL!!! I bet ALL of you that posted on this where either waxing or washing that lovely machine, it felt good when you drove it today 'n you forgot all you were complaining about.

 

we still love our cars, we just notice some things we dont like about em but thats why we have aftermarket parts...

 

 

I forgot the dot matrix on the top of the rear window. (which Honda has since stopped using)

Also the way the b-pipe hangs low in the rear. The stock one looks awful and the CT replacement while "better looking" can still be eaisly seen. This is probably my biggest gripe about the car.

 

noises in the car, front wheel drive, turning radius(this pisses me off the most)

 

lets see.. I'm not too fond about the gas mileage, rattling noises, and stock cd player (always skips at the end of some of my cd's)...oh yea and the weak ass paint ..that gets to me the most!

 

I hate turning up the volume with the steering wheel control and it goes to the next track...So annoying

 

Needs real Fog lights, brighter/indiglo gauges, and a better stereo system.

 

One thing I've noticed that I dislike is the windshield wiper fluid streams back onto the passenger side windows and if you're not going fast enough, it stays there and dries and leaves a god awful mess.

Another thing is when it rains, water must be spewing up from the street and gets on the door sill. Water never gets in the car, but when I open my door, there's water there. It's quite annoying cuz it dries and make marks.