Video: Racing Lotus Elise vs. Street Vette
10-29-2003, 03:13 PM
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I'm confused. I thought the lotus was quicker... Vette ate it up in the straight aways...
!?!?
I expected a lot more from the lotus in terms of power.
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I expected a lot more from the lotus in terms of power.
10-29-2003, 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by SiGGy
I'm confused. I thought the lotus was quicker... Vette ate it up in the straight aways...
!?!?
I expected a lot more from the lotus in terms of power.
I'm confused. I thought the lotus was quicker... Vette ate it up in the straight aways...
!?!?
I expected a lot more from the lotus in terms of power.
10-29-2003, 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by tuleman
I think they are only like 180hp but weigh only 1900 lbs. I expected the lotus to eat it up in the turns..
I think they are only like 180hp but weigh only 1900 lbs. I expected the lotus to eat it up in the turns..
A quick calculation with the numbers you gave me put the Elise at a 13.5 in the 1/4... Hmm... the torque of the vette must be what helps past 100mph.
10-29-2003, 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by SiGGy
Ya, I expected the same in the turns. But I had the impression the Elise was a 12 second car. Guess I have my facts wrong...
A quick calculation with the numbers you gave me put the Elise at a 13.5 in the 1/4... Hmm... the torque of the vette must be what helps past 100mph.
Ya, I expected the same in the turns. But I had the impression the Elise was a 12 second car. Guess I have my facts wrong...
A quick calculation with the numbers you gave me put the Elise at a 13.5 in the 1/4... Hmm... the torque of the vette must be what helps past 100mph.
But how about this Elise? How fast do you think this one will be?
This is the 380HP engine from the RS4 Euro Spec
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10-29-2003, 03:36 PM
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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd say high 10's, even lower if you can get traction!
WOW
I plan to build a Shelby Cobra in the near future with a 405hp stroked 351. This gives me a good idea of what will happen.
Insane power to weight on that Elise.
I'd say high 10's, even lower if you can get traction!
WOW
I plan to build a Shelby Cobra in the near future with a 405hp stroked 351. This gives me a good idea of what will happen.
Insane power to weight on that Elise.
10-29-2003, 03:52 PM
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the elise thats sapose to be coming to the US is the celica moter 180 hp, the cars light like 1900 pnds.. it says 12 flat in the books, but im saying more like 13s i cant see the car, for it says est 40,000 is gonna blow alot of the cars away like that, meaning the vette's, cobras, evan lambo..
10-29-2003, 03:56 PM
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This track was better suited to the Vette. It had more long straight-aways which benefited the Vette as the Vette looks like it has a much stronger top-end. A tighter course would probably favor the Elise
Cool video, and great to see the Vette hold it's own. But I thought "But they have never...I have checked this out with all the experts...they've never made a car that can take corners properly." HAHAHA You should send this video to Top Gear
Cool video, and great to see the Vette hold it's own. But I thought "But they have never...I have checked this out with all the experts...they've never made a car that can take corners properly." HAHAHA
You should send this video to Top Gear
10-29-2003, 04:05 PM
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I'd say throw an Esprit instead of an Elise in with a Vette!
The outcome would have been much much different.
The outcome would have been much much different.
The Skidpad and Slolam performance are almost exactly the same. (mag racing here.. sorry)
The 4 cylinder Esprit (the majority of those made) had less power (300hp/281 torque) and would definitely not be able to beat a well driven Vette
10-29-2003, 04:09 PM
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Re: Video: Racing Lotus Elise vs. Street Vette
Originally posted by gavriil
Almost 14 minutes long. Worth it:
http://www.smudo.com/smudo/bigdata/e...s_corvette.mpg
Almost 14 minutes long. Worth it:
http://www.smudo.com/smudo/bigdata/e...s_corvette.mpg
CORVETTE! (once they fix the interior, in the C6, and not f**K up the exterior styling, then y'all can't hate!) 
10-29-2003, 06:23 PM
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do not forget this lovely conversion for like $6,000 from Mr. Joe:
0-100 MPH in 8.9s!!!
Although the Yokohama A-039's that were on the Exige originally worked quite adequately on the track, they were never able to handle the torque of the K20A from a standing start. Since acceleration timing is one of the standards by which performance is measured, I started looking for 225-45X17's that would be up to the task. B.F. Goodrich G-Force Drag Radials are made in that size, so I bought a pair to use for testing. Even though I was only able to launch the car at 3,000 RPM, I was able to record these times, using a freshly calibrated Stalker Radar System. This is the same equipment used for almost all magazine tests for acceleration and braking, and is considered the standard of the industry.
0-60 MPH = 3.7 seconds
0-100 MPH = 8.9 seconds
http://www.prototyperacing.com/radar.htm
0-100 MPH in 8.9s!!!
Although the Yokohama A-039's that were on the Exige originally worked quite adequately on the track, they were never able to handle the torque of the K20A from a standing start. Since acceleration timing is one of the standards by which performance is measured, I started looking for 225-45X17's that would be up to the task. B.F. Goodrich G-Force Drag Radials are made in that size, so I bought a pair to use for testing. Even though I was only able to launch the car at 3,000 RPM, I was able to record these times, using a freshly calibrated Stalker Radar System. This is the same equipment used for almost all magazine tests for acceleration and braking, and is considered the standard of the industry.
0-60 MPH = 3.7 seconds
0-100 MPH = 8.9 seconds
http://www.prototyperacing.com/radar.htm
10-29-2003, 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
do not forget this lovely conversion for like $6,000 from Mr. Joe:
0-60 MPH = 3.7 seconds
0-100 MPH = 8.9 seconds
http://www.prototyperacing.com/radar.htm
do not forget this lovely conversion for like $6,000 from Mr. Joe:
0-60 MPH = 3.7 seconds
0-100 MPH = 8.9 seconds
http://www.prototyperacing.com/radar.htm
10-29-2003, 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by SiGGy
I plan to build a Shelby Cobra in the near future with a 405hp stroked 351. This gives me a good idea of what will happen.
I plan to build a Shelby Cobra in the near future with a 405hp stroked 351. This gives me a good idea of what will happen.
Factory Five Perhaps?
10-29-2003, 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by joedokes28
Factory Five Perhaps?
Factory Five Perhaps?
I haven't decided on a specific manufacturer yet. I really need to spend some time inspecting the cars up close.
I've seen a factory five car in person.
looked pretty good. I really like he look of www.superformance.com cobra.
EDIT:
I'm also not too hot in the mustang front end of the FF cobra.
but I haven't done enough research to speak of on it.
EDIT:
I see they have a revised MKII now
nice
10-29-2003, 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by SiGGy
I haven't decided on a specific manufacturer yet. I really need to spend some time inspecting the cars up close.
I've seen a factory five car in person. looked pretty good.
I really like he look of www.superformance.com cobra.
EDIT:
I'm also not too hot in the mustang front end of the FF cobra.
but I haven't done enough research to speak of on it.
EDIT:
I see they have a revised MKII now nice
I haven't decided on a specific manufacturer yet. I really need to spend some time inspecting the cars up close.
I've seen a factory five car in person.
looked pretty good. I really like he look of www.superformance.com cobra.
EDIT:
I'm also not too hot in the mustang front end of the FF cobra.
but I haven't done enough research to speak of on it.
EDIT:
I see they have a revised MKII now
nice
Check this site out www.canamexotics.com
They started their own kit car company. The car handles amazing! Their cars were 1 and 2 on the road course at Run and Gun(National Kit car competition). They beat out a bunch of Cobras, GT40's, and Ultimas.
10-30-2003, 03:21 AM
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Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
do not forget this lovely conversion for like $6,000 from Mr. Joe:
0-100 MPH in 8.9s!!!
Although the Yokohama A-039's that were on the Exige originally worked quite adequately on the track, they were never able to handle the torque of the K20A from a standing start. Since acceleration timing is one of the standards by which performance is measured, I started looking for 225-45X17's that would be up to the task. B.F. Goodrich G-Force Drag Radials are made in that size, so I bought a pair to use for testing. Even though I was only able to launch the car at 3,000 RPM, I was able to record these times, using a freshly calibrated Stalker Radar System. This is the same equipment used for almost all magazine tests for acceleration and braking, and is considered the standard of the industry.
0-60 MPH = 3.7 seconds
0-100 MPH = 8.9 seconds
http://www.prototyperacing.com/radar.htm
do not forget this lovely conversion for like $6,000 from Mr. Joe:
0-100 MPH in 8.9s!!!
Although the Yokohama A-039's that were on the Exige originally worked quite adequately on the track, they were never able to handle the torque of the K20A from a standing start. Since acceleration timing is one of the standards by which performance is measured, I started looking for 225-45X17's that would be up to the task. B.F. Goodrich G-Force Drag Radials are made in that size, so I bought a pair to use for testing. Even though I was only able to launch the car at 3,000 RPM, I was able to record these times, using a freshly calibrated Stalker Radar System. This is the same equipment used for almost all magazine tests for acceleration and braking, and is considered the standard of the industry.
0-60 MPH = 3.7 seconds
0-100 MPH = 8.9 seconds
http://www.prototyperacing.com/radar.htm
I wonder if Lotus approached Honda about using the K20A. So much more to start, so much potential. :o
10-30-2003, 06:50 AM
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Originally posted by cusdaddy
I highly doubt it. The most powerful version of the Esprit (TT V8) makes 350hp (same as the Vette), 295 lb/ft of Torque (less than the Vette) and weighs ~200lbs less. I think the result would have been fairly close. The Esprit also has only slightly better performance in the figures such as 0-60 and 1/4.
The Skidpad and Slolam performance are almost exactly the same. (mag racing here.. sorry)
The 4 cylinder Esprit (the majority of those made) had less power (300hp/281 torque) and would definitely not be able to beat a well driven Vette
I highly doubt it. The most powerful version of the Esprit (TT V8) makes 350hp (same as the Vette), 295 lb/ft of Torque (less than the Vette) and weighs ~200lbs less. I think the result would have been fairly close. The Esprit also has only slightly better performance in the figures such as 0-60 and 1/4.
The Skidpad and Slolam performance are almost exactly the same. (mag racing here.. sorry)
The 4 cylinder Esprit (the majority of those made) had less power (300hp/281 torque) and would definitely not be able to beat a well driven Vette
The Vette will not keep up with the four banger Elise in the turns, what makes you think it will keep up with the V8 Esprit? Even if on the straights they were even (which I doubt), any Lotus would have a Vette on the twisties...
10-30-2003, 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by ga2000
the elise thats sapose to be coming to the US is the celica moter 180 hp, the cars light like 1900 pnds.. it says 12 flat in the books, but im saying more like 13s i cant see the car, for it says est 40,000 is gonna blow alot of the cars away like that, meaning the vette's, cobras, evan lambo..
the elise thats sapose to be coming to the US is the celica moter 180 hp, the cars light like 1900 pnds.. it says 12 flat in the books, but im saying more like 13s i cant see the car, for it says est 40,000 is gonna blow alot of the cars away like that, meaning the vette's, cobras, evan lambo..
10-30-2003, 08:33 AM
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Originally posted by cusdaddy
This track was better suited to the Vette. It had more long straight-aways which benefited the Vette as the Vette looks like it has a much stronger top-end. A tighter course would probably favor the Elise
Cool video, and great to see the Vette hold it's own. But I thought "But they have never...I have checked this out with all the experts...they've never made a car that can take corners properly." HAHAHA You should send this video to Top Gear
This track was better suited to the Vette. It had more long straight-aways which benefited the Vette as the Vette looks like it has a much stronger top-end. A tighter course would probably favor the Elise
Cool video, and great to see the Vette hold it's own. But I thought "But they have never...I have checked this out with all the experts...they've never made a car that can take corners properly." HAHAHA
You should send this video to Top Gear
Hehehe....Thanks cusdaddy.
See what I mean. And that's a C5. If the Z06 were there, we would be seeing one car in the video....including the Elise.
10-30-2003, 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by cusdaddy
I highly doubt it. The most powerful version of the Esprit (TT V8) makes 350hp (same as the Vette), 295 lb/ft of Torque (less than the Vette) and weighs ~200lbs less. I think the result would have been fairly close. The Esprit also has only slightly better performance in the figures such as 0-60 and 1/4.
The Skidpad and Slolam performance are almost exactly the same. (mag racing here.. sorry)
The 4 cylinder Esprit (the majority of those made) had less power (300hp/281 torque) and would definitely not be able to beat a well driven Vette
I highly doubt it. The most powerful version of the Esprit (TT V8) makes 350hp (same as the Vette), 295 lb/ft of Torque (less than the Vette) and weighs ~200lbs less. I think the result would have been fairly close. The Esprit also has only slightly better performance in the figures such as 0-60 and 1/4.
The Skidpad and Slolam performance are almost exactly the same. (mag racing here.. sorry)
The 4 cylinder Esprit (the majority of those made) had less power (300hp/281 torque) and would definitely not be able to beat a well driven Vette
I think the Esprit would have faired better in that track with that Vette. You would need the Z06 to beat the Esprit. The Esprit's HP figure was way under-rated. I remember 4.4 secs for the 0-60 mph.
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