Top Gear Drives The Gt40[video]
10-28-2003 | 09:50 PM
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Top Gear Drives The Gt40[video]
see, torquie is good for more than causing flame wars! WHO LOVES YA BABY? 
http://homepage.mac.com/fluffy/.Public/TopGear_GT40.wmv
http://homepage.mac.com/fluffy/.Public/TopGear_GT40.wmv
10-28-2003 | 09:59 PM
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10-29-2003 | 07:23 AM
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Cool Video, but the announcer is ignorant. He doesn't really know much about cars if he thinks that American vehicles go fast in a straight line, like the "vette and space shuttle". Guess he has never driven a Z06.
10-29-2003 | 09:53 AM
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wow i can find that engine in the f150!!
It's not really based on the F150 at all...
The only thing they share is the engine block.
cams, lifters, crank, rods, bearings, pistons, heads, valves, timing chain.......yadda... yadda... are all different. Not to mention balanced together...
picture the F150 5.4L as stress test for the engine block.
Why should ford design a new engine block, when they can use one that has already been well tested?
The GT engine is hand machined, and hand assembeled...
The only thing they share is the engine block.
cams, lifters, crank, rods, bearings, pistons, heads, valves, timing chain.......yadda... yadda... are all different. Not to mention balanced together...
picture the F150 5.4L as stress test for the engine block.
Why should ford design a new engine block, when they can use one that has already been well tested?
The GT engine is hand machined, and hand assembeled...
Is the Viper crap because it's engine traces back to a Dodge?pickup?
10-29-2003 | 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by cusdaddy
awesome car.... And who cares if it's a Ford. It outdoes it's competition in almost every way (styling is objective)
awesome car.... And who cares if it's a Ford. It outdoes it's competition in almost every way (styling is objective)
Does that mean I want one of those.
Hell No!!!!
10-29-2003 | 11:49 AM
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So much hate and mis-understanding...
If others actually read about the past, and how the US was ridiculed for not being able to create a car to compete with the europeans in their races. The euorpeans literally laughed in our faces with a snotty attitude.
Then Ford goes and does it. Shows them up, multiple times. Then says, eh I'm bored with your races...
The car was made when Ford was unable to purchase Ferrari when they tried, and they were HIGHLY ridiculed... So Ford answered back.
Where's the patriotism on this board...!?!?!????
That car is the symbol of how the Americans still can and have produced cars to complete.
I'm pretty let down from some of the bashing of it... not liking it is one thing. But why disrespect the honor the car holds?
If others actually read about the past, and how the US was ridiculed for not being able to create a car to compete with the europeans in their races. The euorpeans literally laughed in our faces with a snotty attitude.
Then Ford goes and does it. Shows them up, multiple times. Then says, eh I'm bored with your races...
The car was made when Ford was unable to purchase Ferrari when they tried, and they were HIGHLY ridiculed... So Ford answered back.
Where's the patriotism on this board...!?!?!????
That car is the symbol of how the Americans still can and have produced cars to complete.
I'm pretty let down from some of the bashing of it... not liking it is one thing. But why disrespect the honor the car holds?
10-29-2003 | 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by Maximized
Cool Video, but the announcer is ignorant. He doesn't really know much about cars if he thinks that American vehicles go fast in a straight line, like the "vette and space shuttle". Guess he has never driven a Z06.
Cool Video, but the announcer is ignorant. He doesn't really know much about cars if he thinks that American vehicles go fast in a straight line, like the "vette and space shuttle". Guess he has never driven a Z06.
10-29-2003 | 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by SiGGy
So much hate and mis-understanding...
If others actually read about the past, and how the US was ridiculed for not being able to create a car to compete with the europeans in their races. The euorpeans literally laughed in our faces with a snotty attitude.
Then Ford goes and does it. Shows them up, multiple times. Then says, eh I'm bored with your races...
The car was made when Ford was unable to purchase Ferrari when they tried, and they were HIGHLY ridiculed... So Ford answered back.
Where's the patriotism on this board...!?!?!????
That car is the symbol of how the Americans still can and have produced cars to complete.
I'm pretty let down from some of the bashing of it... not liking it is one thing. But why disrespect the honor the car holds?
So much hate and mis-understanding...
If others actually read about the past, and how the US was ridiculed for not being able to create a car to compete with the europeans in their races. The euorpeans literally laughed in our faces with a snotty attitude.
Then Ford goes and does it. Shows them up, multiple times. Then says, eh I'm bored with your races...
The car was made when Ford was unable to purchase Ferrari when they tried, and they were HIGHLY ridiculed... So Ford answered back.
Where's the patriotism on this board...!?!?!????
That car is the symbol of how the Americans still can and have produced cars to complete.
I'm pretty let down from some of the bashing of it... not liking it is one thing. But why disrespect the honor the car holds?
10-29-2003 | 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by cusdaddy
Zapata... Let's not rehash this again from the other thread. I think Siggy's response to you in the other thread puts this to rest:
Who cares if it's not a 100% unique and exclusive design like the Ferrari? It makes 2x more torque and over 100 more hp, and sounds great to boot, and allows the car to be less expensive than the Ferrari.
Is the Viper crap because it's engine traces back to a Dodge?pickup?
Zapata... Let's not rehash this again from the other thread. I think Siggy's response to you in the other thread puts this to rest:
Who cares if it's not a 100% unique and exclusive design like the Ferrari? It makes 2x more torque and over 100 more hp, and sounds great to boot, and allows the car to be less expensive than the Ferrari.
Is the Viper crap because it's engine traces back to a Dodge?pickup?
If you don't care that's fine.....i'm stating my opinion. Why must you jump to the defense every single time ?
If i'm paying over 140K....i want exclusivity.....it's much more than a car..... The price of the car is going to be closer to the 150k mark.
car does sound great, handling seems ok by the reviews, props for ford to put the engine in the back.....where it belongs.
If you want value buy a focus......
10-29-2003 | 12:08 PM
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Patriotism shouldn't be equated to love and support for a freaking car........
kudos for finally making a true sports car. What's with the all or nothing BS? Gotta love it or gotta hate it?
kudos for finally making a true sports car. What's with the all or nothing BS? Gotta love it or gotta hate it?
Originally posted by SiGGy
So much hate and mis-understanding...
If others actually read about the past, and how the US was ridiculed for not being able to create a car to compete with the europeans in their races. The euorpeans literally laughed in our faces with a snotty attitude.
Then Ford goes and does it. Shows them up, multiple times. Then says, eh I'm bored with your races...
The car was made when Ford was unable to purchase Ferrari when they tried, and they were HIGHLY ridiculed... So Ford answered back.
Where's the patriotism on this board...!?!?!????
That car is the symbol of how the Americans still can and have produced cars to complete.
I'm pretty let down from some of the bashing of it... not liking it is one thing. But why disrespect the honor the car holds?
So much hate and mis-understanding...
If others actually read about the past, and how the US was ridiculed for not being able to create a car to compete with the europeans in their races. The euorpeans literally laughed in our faces with a snotty attitude.
Then Ford goes and does it. Shows them up, multiple times. Then says, eh I'm bored with your races...
The car was made when Ford was unable to purchase Ferrari when they tried, and they were HIGHLY ridiculed... So Ford answered back.
Where's the patriotism on this board...!?!?!????
That car is the symbol of how the Americans still can and have produced cars to complete.
I'm pretty let down from some of the bashing of it... not liking it is one thing. But why disrespect the honor the car holds?
10-29-2003 | 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by Zapata
*snip* The price of the car is going to be closer to the 150k mark. *snip*
*snip* The price of the car is going to be closer to the 150k mark. *snip*
10-29-2003 | 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by gto2050
That's if you can find a Ford dealer who will sell it to y9ou for sticker. More than likely, since they have not had much success lately (In hard to gert cars) they will liken it to a Cobra Type R and gouge until the cars (pun for cows) come home!
That's if you can find a Ford dealer who will sell it to y9ou for sticker. More than likely, since they have not had much success lately (In hard to gert cars) they will liken it to a Cobra Type R and gouge until the cars (pun for cows) come home!
from the front it looks like shit, but from certain angles it looks cool! bottom line is: it costs way less than a modena, or muclerlargo, or pagani zonda, or whaterver else you can think off, while whooping their asses, hardcore! props to ford for this one! 
10-29-2003 | 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by Zapata
If you don't care that's fine.....i'm stating my opinion. Why must you jump to the defense every single time ?
If i'm paying over 140K....i want exclusivity.....it's much more than a car..... The price of the car is going to be closer to the 150k mark.
car does sound great, handling seems ok by the reviews, props for ford to put the engine in the back.....where it belongs.
If you want value buy a focus......
If you don't care that's fine.....i'm stating my opinion. Why must you jump to the defense every single time ?
If i'm paying over 140K....i want exclusivity.....it's much more than a car..... The price of the car is going to be closer to the 150k mark.
car does sound great, handling seems ok by the reviews, props for ford to put the engine in the back.....where it belongs.
If you want value buy a focus......
The CLS is value as compared to the 330Ci, etc. If the CLS were offering better performance than the 330Ci in all respects for basicaly the same price, then that's not value. That's: I BEAT YOUR ASS STRAIGHT AND SQUARE.
And that's what the GT is. A Ferrari Modena straight and square ass beater.
10-29-2003 | 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by gavriil
Value? The GT is not about value. The GT WOULD HAVE BEEN about value if it were offering slightly less performance than the 360 Modena for A LOT less money.
The CLS is value as compared to the 330Ci, etc. If the CLS were offering better performance than the 330Ci in all respects for basicaly the same price, then that's not value. That's: I BEAT YOUR ASS STRAIGHT AND SQUARE.
And that's what the GT is. A Ferrari Modena straight and square ass beater.
Value? The GT is not about value. The GT WOULD HAVE BEEN about value if it were offering slightly less performance than the 360 Modena for A LOT less money.
The CLS is value as compared to the 330Ci, etc. If the CLS were offering better performance than the 330Ci in all respects for basicaly the same price, then that's not value. That's: I BEAT YOUR ASS STRAIGHT AND SQUARE.
And that's what the GT is. A Ferrari Modena straight and square ass beater.
cusdaddy commented on value....not I....
10-29-2003 | 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by Zapata
Patriotism shouldn't be equated to love and support for a freaking car........
kudos for finally making a true sports car. What's with the all or nothing BS? Gotta love it or gotta hate it?
Patriotism shouldn't be equated to love and support for a freaking car........
kudos for finally making a true sports car. What's with the all or nothing BS? Gotta love it or gotta hate it?
Ford made a car to quiet the europeans when they ridiculed the US for not being able to compete in the european races (Im not going to get specific)
The US (Ford specifically) came back and showed them up. It's very patriotic, and is a symbol of what the US is capable of. The races are biased to different countrys. It's very competitive.
They were laughing at us, Ford stood up and showed them what we could do...
For me, it says a lot about what we are capable of. It takes balls to stand up to the Italian cars. It takes better design to beat them, which Ford did... and they did it very well.
10-29-2003 | 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by SiGGy
Ford made a car to quiet the europeans when they ridiculed the US for not being able to compete in the european races (Im not going to get specifc)
Ford made a car to quiet the europeans when they ridiculed the US for not being able to compete in the european races (Im not going to get specifc)
The Europeans are ridiculing USAmerican automotive reality to this day. Race related or commercial, for that matter. They laugh at the cars we drive every day, the cars that the big 3 sell to us and about the rediculous oval racing (e.g. NASCAR, etc). Not even the C5 gets respect over there.
Additional perspective to spice it up even more:
Europeans perceive OPEL (GM's European subsidiary except Vauxhall) as...GERMAN! Yes German.
Vauxhall (which is GM's subsidiary for the UK market) is perceived as English.
Ford, is also perceived as a GERMAN company. Yes.
Volvo is perceived as Swedish and Saab too. Aston Martin as English, etc, etc.
It's pathetic what Europeans think about Detroit.
10-29-2003 | 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by gavriil
And that's what the GT is. A Ferrari Modena straight and square ass beater.
And that's what the GT is. A Ferrari Modena straight and square ass beater.
..."with a hundred more hp than ferrari, and twice as much torque, this thing will blow the ferrari (360 modena) into the middle of next week"...
