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What's the General Cost for timing belt replacement ?

GreenMonster

From the dealer, I think I've read 1200..... 7-800 from a non-dealer...

Don't forget to have 'em change the waterpump while they're in there...

A search for timing belt will probably turn up alot of price quotes...

MarbleGT

I was actually qouted $1100 for timing belt, water pump and power steering pump from David McDavid in Plano, Texas.

Trackruner228

iTrader: (1)

Holy crap im at 89xxx now and I know there supposed to be replaced at 100k. I always thought they where like 200 bucks wow this sucks. Agh that really stinks.

MarbleGT

...the belts are about 40 bucks. Im at 123,xxx and still going strong.

sob4681

You are at 123,000 and never replaced any of them?

01clsstock

my last car was a audi a4 1.8t. For the 1.8t's if the timing belt goes so does your whole engine.

Type S Zero

on acuraparts247 :
pump : $100 (+coolant...about $15 i think)
belt : $32
tensioner : $78 (it's hydrolic and sometimes it leaks)

the belt takes about 3 or 3.5 hours (can't remember)
water pump adds about an hour.
so 4.5h gives enough time to do both, shouldn't take much more... to put the estimate up, i'll go with 5

parts $225 ($150 if tensioner doesn't leak)
labor : $500 at $100/h
total : $725 ($650 if tensioner is ok)

you can call and ask your dealer, they have a list of forfeits (should roughly be the same for all Acura dealers) for doing both and you'll be able to compare

the people that were over $1K is because of they had timing belt+water pump done at the same time as the 90~100K miles maintenance-inspection(i think....here in Canada we use the extreme conditions chart for maintenance and it's the 96 000km inspection)

GreenMonster

Yeah, the 1200 quote is probably with the standard 105K maintenance...

redsly

I go to Sunnyside Acura in Nashua, NH and I believe they quoted me around $800-$850 (not exactly sure) and they said they replace the water pump every time, even if it is fine...

I think it's time for me to put my new plugs in... I'm at 113k and haven't changed any belts or the plugs. The only thing I did do was a coolant flush and that was because of the cold winters up here...

pits200

My 2000 TL has 148K on it with the original timing belt and my 2001 CL-S has 112K on it with the OEM timing belt.

I just picked up a crank bolt remover and will be working on replacing both of these in the upcoming weeks.

I know that everyone says that its better to be safe than sorry, but it seems like with these cars that 105k for a timing belt change is a very very conservative estimate.

I wouldn't fret if I was like 5 or 10k over 105k, unless you saw some strange fluid on the ground and thought your water pump might be going.

But if I had to pay for it, I would look for a place that would charge around $800-$900. I wouldn't pay a penny more.

redsly

My uncle was a mechanic for over 30 years and he was telling me not to bother changing it at all.
His truck has over 250k with the original timing belt...

But I don't recommend doing that, my Integra blew the timing belt at 110k and I got lucky, since I was only going about 25-30 mph when it happened.

That's also the reason I am going to have mine done...

I wish I had my own garage, would save a great deal of money.

fsttyms1

800 seems to be the norm on the TL side for those who have done it.

I pushed mine to 200k. 100K is rather conservative too me.

Changing the timing belt isnt very hard. The single hardest part is removing the crank bolt.

TheWeez

I've had timing belts shred with 40k miles on them. You change your oil every 3k miles when that's a conservative estimate, why not your timing belt? I'll be doing mine when I hit 100k in the next couple years.

redsly

I am going to do it to be on the safe side, since it happened to me in my Integra.
I just changed my oil today and it's been 8k miles since the last change, so I'm not that conservative about all maintenance, just the ones that could fuck me over in the long run.

Not changing my oil for so long is sad...
Especially since I spun a bearing in my old car since I didn't change the oil in 16k miles...

Damn thing spun the bearing right after I brought it to get the oil changed and they couldn't do it because they were closing... Damn negligence...

GreenMonster

I change my oil at 7500 miles because that's what the factory recommendation is... and I'll probably change the belt at 105K, since that the recommended service.

GreenMonster

Does his truck a non-interference engine ?? Even when the valves and pistons are at full extension, a small gap remains between them on a non-interference engine.

We have a interference engine, so if the belt breaks, or even just jumps a bunch of teeth, there's a chance that the valves hit the pistons and make for some very expensive repairs...

pits200

Ha, I change my oil every 10K miles and I could probably eat off my engine internals.

As for that guys Integra, those timing belts were notorious for being weak and people having issues with them, especially the early 90's Integra. I had a 91 LS special and never had an issue with my timing belt on it, so I guess I got lucky.

BigLizard

I paid in the vicinity of 7-800 dollars. No more. Dealerships just want your money.

Allout

I got lucky on our TL-P. I had an extended 100K mile warranty and around 95K miles, it developed a minor coolant leak. Turned out it was the water pump which was covered under warranty. While they were in there, I had them do the timing belt service and replace all belts and hoses. I just had to pay for the additional parts an a small portion of the labor. The water pump going before 100K saved me a good chunk of money.

weixin

i got my dun few weeks ago for like 500 even.

LuvMYCL_S

Anyone have their belt go before 95K? I'm at 80K, but I wanna make sure this thing lasts.

pits200

Unfortunately, with a timing belt, there is no way to really tell unless like Allout, you have some kind of leak with the water pump, then you have a reason to go in there and look.

But at 80K, its not worth it to worry. If your belt would go at 80k, that is just really bad luck and you are just an unlucky statistic.

redsly

I know that Honda has interference motors, that is why I said that I am going to do mine anyways... I was just quoting him...



I was lucky in my Integra that I was going so slowly, but I did take the head off and did a valve job, just to find out that the valves weren't bent...



That was tedious enough on a 4-banger, don't need to do it on a v6.

xrochester

I've never heard of anyone blowing a timing belt. I'm really suspect of the 105K service. I truly believe it's just a way for the stealer to rake you over the coals for unnecessary service. I did my Accord at 135K and the belt looked like brand new when we took it out. It looked better than the one I was replacing it with! I was pissed off and swore I would never do that again! This belt is not exposed to the elements like your other belts are. I'm just buying an 04 with 81K and I'm definitely not in any hurry to do mine.

Has anyone ever lost a timing belt on a 3rd gen TL?

Joe5.0

I have 126k on mine and havent replaced it. I plan on getting it done this spring and I was quoted $750 from a local well known shop that does them all the time. That was with replacing the water pump also.

TheWeez

No more then $400 in labor and no more then $250 in parts.

pits200

I've lost a timing belt but not from typical circumstances. I don't even want to rehash the story it pisses me off so much. Rochester, don't forget that the timing belt doesn't have to fail for you to have catastrophic damage. There is the water pump, bearings, seals. Plenty of other things can go wrong and have the same effect as your belt breaking.

I went 155k on my original belt and it looked perfect but the water pump had seen better days.

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

It really depends on your driving. Ive seen timing belts at 80k look like they were about to snap, and others at 200k that look brand new.

TheWeez

Driving isn't the only factor. Extremes in hot and cold from where you live play a part along with tons of other factors.

Change it when the manual recommends it. Anyone saying otherwise is telling you that playing Russian roulette is cool and that taking care of your car isn't important. Also have the coolant flushed. In many cases they're seeing the coolant gelling well before the claimed 105k life.

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

^

I meant to say driving conditions.

Id do it at 105k. Its cheap insurance in my mind.

Joe5.0

insurance yes, cheap no

$750 into a car thats worth maybe $7k is not "cheap" in my book.

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

So $2000 when it fails is better?

duyx817

oh your near me!

MahyarCL01

i paid right under 1K (with parts and labor) I could've gotten the parts a hell of a lot cheaper but it was warrantied by them so I figured i'd rather have them fix stuff for free just in case.

timing belt kit (with tensioner)
waterpump
ac belt
powersteering belt
idle pulley
crankshaft seal
camshaft seal
spark plugs
coolant/antifreeze
right front engine mount

ML03CLS

^This

The key word is *preventative* maintenance. The recommended maintenance practices are not hidden, and you are given fair opportunity to discover ownership costs prior to purchasing a vehicle. Despite popular belief, these schedules are based on extensive testing and research that goes beyond, "i know this guy who took his original t-belt to 300k, thus Honda is full of sh*t."

Like stated many times here, feel free to test your luck. This is not something that will give you fair warning when it is about to go. I do not understand why (other than financial reasons) someone would postpone this maintenance when it WILL have to be done at some point.

specvspeedfreak

i just bought a TL knowing the timing belt needed to be changed. It came with oem belt, tensioner (the one that is said can leak), and water pump. I have the receipts for it and it was $287 but i have seen the kits online with more stuff (debatable on if its all necessary) go for around the same price....
The hobby shop on base is cheap at only @ $207 for labor..calling around i found the cheapest was $400.. If i had to pay that much i would just do it myself..

Allout

That plus it's a good probablility that your motor won't ever be the same again after it fails. You hope that the damage can be repaired correctly but that's something that I would rather avoid.

pits200

Trust me, Allout is right, most dealerships won't know how to fix an engine properly after a timing belt break. I am going through that problem right now and it's not fun.

tnobori1

Yep, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure