Stock CLS 6 speed...14.11 @ 96mph !!!

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Old 06-10-2002, 08:09 PM
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Stock CLS 6 speed...14.11 @ 96mph !!!

Check this out from the clubrsx.com

forum:http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?threadid=30680

My best time stock thus far is 14.3 @ 98 mph. Guess I have some work to do!
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Re: Stock CLS 6 speed...14.11 @ 96mph !!!

Originally posted by xtyper
Check this out from the clubrsx.com

forum:http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?threadid=30680

My best time stock thus far is 14.3 @ 98 mph. Guess I have some work to do!
I was going to post it but you beat me LOL!!!

BTW the Guy beat the GS430!!! GS430 time 14.25@9X

My links came from this he actually onwz a Bimmer: http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh...threadid=34925
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Geeze, well this seals the deal Which dealership wants my $ in about 6 months????
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i guess that does go to show my
r/t .713
2.274 '60
6.382 330
9.624 1/8 @75.91
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14.791 @95.72
ADDS UP TO LOT OF WHEEL SPIN....with my slicks maybe the 14.2 i was after is doable...
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Great time but the trap sped is low. Take that Maxima boys! :P
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Originally posted by Zapata
Geeze, well this seals the deal Which dealership wants my $ in about 6 months????
Oh come on you KNOW it's gotta be PAA!

Man 14.11... AWESOME. A 13-second card with mods. Sexcellent.
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that seems a little shady....with no timeslip and no video clip. Plus with that 60' time and a 95.9mph trap speed.....its almost not possible....
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Damnit!

Time to go for another test drive tomorrow.
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i also forgot to add that you can't drop a CL-S from 4500 and no roast your tires like crazy. I drop it from 3 and spin through 2nd gear
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Originally posted by I am RobG
that seems a little shady....with no timeslip and no video clip. Plus with that 60' time and a 95.9mph trap speed.....its almost not possible....
That is what I was thinking also. However I read the link to the bimmerforums and the guy behind the wheel of the CL-S is a drag strip king! Hell he got 13.6 out of a S2000!
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I take a vacation for a few days and come back to this!!!

Great news if it's true.
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WOW..

That's awesome

I believe it, I don't think it's that far fetched.. didn't we all see a time slip of a 14.2 6-spd?? and if this dude is a really good driver, shaving 9/100ths is noting at all.....

AUTO-TRANNY!!!!!

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Originally posted by Black CL-S 4-Life

That is what I was thinking also. However I read the link to the bimmerforums and the guy behind the wheel of the CL-S is a drag strip king! Hell he got 13.6 out of a S2000!
Not to mention his 0.5xx reaction times kick the crap out of the .7x and .8x reaction times we see out of the other guys who tracked their 6speeds. :P
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I saw a 98 auto Vette run a 13.9 1/4 mile......the CL is getting faster........too bad they are gonna kill it off
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just a supercharger and some sticky tires away from being the ULTIMATE sleeper
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if he ran a 14.11 more power to him, thats fuckin awesome. i'm just saying its fuckin hard to run that fast especially on stock tires dropping it from 4500.....thats a shitload of wheelspin plus there's no traction control or anything. I'm just saying why i can see it being a little far fetched. Plus the .5 second reaction time, i had a .371 reactoin time and i still ran a 14.7. I'll be going back out so i'll let you know if i get better, maybe he's jsut a nasty driver i dunno
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Re: Stock CLS 6 speed...14.11 @ 96mph !!!

Originally posted by xtyper
Check this out from the clubrsx.com

forum:http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?threadid=30680

My best time stock thus far is 14.3 @ 98 mph. Guess I have some work to do!

Looks like that guy knows how to drive stick...
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The guy was also smart enough to run the CLS with the tank on fumes (with the exception of the 100-octane)...

IMO, it sure can help having someone who can drive, is light, and goes for every trick.


Next time someone hits the drags, grab some 100-octane and put it in a car running near dead empty... (Also, helps to become the “thinnest person on earth”)


(And so much for the 5K break-in he he he he )


Thin man preparing for a run:

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Originally posted by I am RobG
if he ran a 14.11 more power to him, thats fuckin awesome. i'm just saying its fuckin hard to run that fast especially on stock tires dropping it from 4500.....thats a shitload of wheelspin plus there's no traction control or anything. I'm just saying why i can see it being a little far fetched. Plus the .5 second reaction time, i had a .371 reactoin time and i still ran a 14.7. I'll be going back out so i'll let you know if i get better, maybe he's jsut a nasty driver i dunno
hey rob...a .371 is a red light...but it doesnt matter if you had a .371 or 3 day 5 minute and 27 second R/t because the 1/4 mile time doesnt start until the reaction time is achieved...to make it simpler...if you ran a 14.1 1/4 and your reaction time was .500 perfect sportsman tree
the next time you pulled a .300 and everything else was identicle that does not mean you'll run a 13.8...it means you'll run a 14.1 and you'll have lost to whom ever you were racing because you red lighted....
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ok a .371 definitely isn't a red light. I need to get a scanner, cuz i'm lookin at the timeslip right now and i have the pics of my take off and there was no red light.....
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Originally posted by I am RobG
ok a .371 definitely isn't a red light. I need to get a scanner, cuz i'm lookin at the timeslip right now and i have the pics of my take off and there was no red light.....
sorry rob...but a pro tree ...the fastest tree is a .400 so yes a .371 is a red light ...there's also a sportsman where a .500 is perfect
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Originally posted by EricL

IMO, it sure can help having someone who can drive, is light, and goes for every trick.

Yeah, you'd think the magazines would hire people who can actually drag race cars properly so we can get accurate numbers from them, those fockers.
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Originally posted by EricL


Thin man preparing for a run:

Heh is that the movie Thinner by stephen
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I think that the 2 most important things that made this possible are:

1. The tire pressure he chose. Very smart. low for the fronts and super high for the rears so he gains as much of the rears' drag as he can.

2. The fact that he stayed on the clutch till the end of 1st gear. I think, that saved him 2-3 tents folks.
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I couldn't imagine 100 octane doing jack for our car, maybe hurt power some, but thats about it...
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RobG:

I don't think that guy DROPPED the clutch, I'm pretty sure he SLIPPED the clutch. I believe the only car he dropped the clutch on was the S2000. If I'm mistaken then I apologize in advance.

That is where most of the people here get messed up... by SLIPPING the clutch you can can control the amount of wheel spin WITHOUT bogging the engine! Which is cheaper to replace... a clutch ever 10-15k miles or your entire transmission?

TypeR:

There are SOME tracks that do use a messed up tree where a .000 is perfect reaction time. Louisiana Raceway in Eunice, LA is a perfect example of this. While I realize you are going under the assumption that all tracks either use a PRO tree or a Sportmans tree there are exceptions.

I can show you DOZENS of time slips with .2, .3 and .4 reaction times that do not have a redlight. I can also show you a few time slips that have a - time on them that ARE redlighted.
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thank you
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With slicks that guy should be hitting high 13's. Who knows with the usual mods?
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With slicks that guy should be hitting high 13's. Who knows with the usual mods?

BTW...anyone know how to become that good of a driver?
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Originally posted by I am RobG
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rob.i dont know if maybe you think i was chastising or putting you down...no, quite the contrary...we're here to learn...at my track they have a night where its called club 1320... instant green no tree...but they also dont give slips...i have many time slips where i redlighted and got full times...but so you know ...there is no sanctioning race body with a .000 r/t... the top fuel dragsters use .400 called a pro tree, the fastest sanctioned tree, and most tracks we'll goto on test and tune nights will use a sportsman a .500 ....to put that in prospective rob.... a .000 means you could launch your car at the exact 10/1000 th of a second the first yellow came on and not red light....thats why there's no real .000 tree ...the main point to my first reply to you though, was not really about red lights at all...just that you dont get through the 1/4 any faster based on you r/t....you can cut a .371 or a 1.371 and still you ran a 14.11
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Originally posted by I am RobG
that seems a little shady....with no timeslip and no video clip. Plus with that 60' time and a 95.9mph trap speed.....its almost not possible....
Exactly. It's nice to see that there's somebody else on this board that knows drag racing too.....

a 96 mph trap speed is very low to ET at 14.1 on street tires. Did this CL have regular street radials at the time?
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Originally posted by I am RobG
ok a .371 definitely isn't a red light. I need to get a scanner, cuz i'm lookin at the timeslip right now and i have the pics of my take off and there was no red light.....
Anything under .500 is a red light on a sportsman tree.

Anything under .400 is a red light on a pro tree.
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rob.i dont know if maybe you think i was chastising or putting you down...no, quite the contrary...we're here to learn...at my track they have a night where its called club 1320... instant green no tree...but they also dont give slips...i have many time slips where i redlighted and got full times...but so you know ...there is no sanctioning race body with a .000 r/t... the top fuel dragsters use .400 called a pro tree, the fastest sanctioned tree, and most tracks we'll goto on test and tune nights will use a sportsman a .500 ....to put that in prospective rob.... a .000 means you could launch your car at the exact 10/1000 th of a second the first yellow came on and not red light....thats why there's no real .000 tree ...the main point to my first reply to you though, was not really about red lights at all...just that you dont get through the 1/4 any faster based on you r/t....you can cut a .371 or a 1.371 and still you ran a 14.11
Exactly correct.
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Exactly. It's nice to see that there's somebody else on this board that knows drag racing too.....

a 96 mph trap speed is very low to ET at 14.1 on street tires. Did this CL have regular street radials at the time?
For a car like ours that is only good up to around 105mph (doesn't do well at higher speeds and crawls up to 140-150mph), I would think you would see a trap speed near the bottom end of the possible trap speeds for that ET so that seemed logical to me.


It's nice to see that there's somebody else on this board that knows drag racing too.....
By the way, that's an asshole comment that insinuates no one else on this board knows anything correct about drag racing.
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to put that in prospective rob.... a .000 means you could launch your car at the exact 10/1000 th of a second the first yellow came on and not red light....thats why there's no real .000 tree ...
I would think if you're at a strip where they use a .000 tree you would just equate .000 to .500, .1 to .6, .2 to .7, etc. Just equate it over, no?

So if someone's bragging about a .346 they really got a .846 which is nothing special.
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For a car like ours that is only good up to around 105mph (doesn't do well at higher speeds and crawls up to 140-150mph), I would think you would see a trap speed near the bottom end of the possible trap speeds for that ET so that seemed logical to me.




By the way, that's an asshole comment that insinuates no one else on this board knows anything correct about drag racing.
Trap speeds go hand in hand with ETs, as long as you're on street tires. Any car that runs 14.0-14.1 should be trapping at 99-100 mph on regular street radials.

As for my asshole comment.... yes, most people on this board don't know shit about drag racing street cars. It's just nice to see that SOMEBODY does.......
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well i went to some little ass track out in gods country so i'm sure they just had some poor ass tree. Hopefully i'm going to Englishtown soon and they have a real tree.
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my trap speed for a 14.68 run was 97.88 mph. et was a little high because of my slow 60'.
we'll see what happens on saturday w/ new tires and pulleys.
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Originally posted by mattg
my trap speed for a 14.68 run was 97.88 mph. et was a little high because of my slow 60'.
we'll see what happens on saturday w/ new tires and pulleys.
Good luck and please post your times. I'll be up in PDX this weekend for the CART race.
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A slow 60' time that had lots of wheelspin will typically have a HIGHER trap speed.

A quick 60' time that had little to no wheelspin will typically have a LOWER trap speed.

Unless this guy was lieing about his Z3 run, his GS430 run AND the S2000 run, why would he bother ONLY lieing about the CL-S run?

I have VIDEO proof of a 4th Gen DX Accord running a 16.1 with footage of the engine and people STILL doubted me. I saw it 3 times with my own eyes and didn't believe either but that doesn't change that fact that it DID happen despite it defying the very laws of physics and reasoning.

http://www.cox-internet.com/bcb8996/...pd-MedQual.asf

BTW, his only "mod" is a cracked open air box which can see in the footage and obviously hear during his burnout. He's also on his 3rd transmission.

I swear, people see conspiracies everywhere.


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