SSR Competiton rims + 235 toys + comptech springs = I HAVE THE ANSWER!

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Old 08-15-2001, 05:45 AM
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I don't know how my response to the BMW got here.

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SSR Competiton rims + 235 toys + comptech springs = I HAVE THE ANSWER!

No rubbing whatsoever, even with 4 people in the car. Pics are below:

Multiple pics of black CL Type S with comptech sways, comptech springs, SSR comps with toyo 235's
Old 08-15-2001, 05:46 AM
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whoa my next bmw response went here too

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Old 08-15-2001, 05:48 AM
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Weird, I posted this, and then I didn't see my original message, then I saw your replies. And now the BMW thread (I saw it when I posted this message) is gone!
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We're DOOMED! Our universe is collapsing!
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kink in the matrix?
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Anyway, well, this topic is of HUGE concern among dozens of members I know, so it will be frequented anyway. Hopefully people won't lose sight of the ORIGINAL point of it.

But hey, I killed a BMW post, I feel satisfied.
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I don't know how many times I had to tell you, and you would never believe me...

Old 08-15-2001, 05:55 AM
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Originally posted by SJ Silver Type-S:
<STRONG>I don't know how many times I had to tell you, and you would never believe me...

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HAHAHAHA. Go to bed, don't you have to work early tomorrow?

PS - I am considering getting 245 tires...
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Originally posted by Technique:
<STRONG>No rubbing whatsoever, even with 4 people in the car.
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Good to hear! However, didn't one of the members here said that they had some rubbing of the front tires under hard cornering? Did you test that aspect?
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Originally posted by FDao:
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Good to hear! However, didn't one of the members here said that they had some rubbing of the front tires under hard cornering? Did you test that aspect?</STRONG>
Yes, I tested the car under FULL STRESS. Trust me, I drive the car harder than 99.9% of drivers. No rubbing.
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Originally posted by Technique:
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Yes, I tested the car under FULL STRESS. Trust me, I drive the car harder than 99.9% of drivers. No rubbing.</STRONG>

Awesome! Thanks!
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I believe you have a 48 offset. I am doing springs with 17x8 AT Italia wheels with 50 offset. I should be OK then??
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Tech:

That IS good news. For the record, what is the offset?

Looks like the bulge from the increased tire width provides a bit of rubber protection from curb rash. I'd think that this would help those greatly with the stock rims?

Looks good. I just wish our stock calipers didn't look so puny.

Your title mentions springs but your sig doesn't. To me your pics seem to show that your car is lowered? Correct?

Thanks
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that was me and i had the problem because the installers cut my bumpstops.
after installing the new bumpstops no more rubbing.

Originally posted by FDao:
<STRONG>

Good to hear! However, didn't one of the members here said that they had some rubbing of the front tires under hard cornering? Did you test that aspect?</STRONG>
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HEY Technique !

are you the CL from the sports car meet on saturday? if so, i was the black CL
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Looks good. I just wish our stock calipers didn't look so puny.

Your title mentions springs but your sig doesn't. To me your pics seem to show that your car is lowered? Correct?

Thanks
Rob

[ 08-15-2001: Message edited by: Al Uminum ][/QB][/QUOTE]

We actualy used my car to perform this test. We swapped rims, and tried very hard to get them to rub, but nothing......
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Originally posted by tuleman:
<STRONG>Looks good. I just wish our stock calipers didn't look so puny.

Your title mentions springs but your sig doesn't. To me your pics seem to show that your car is lowered? Correct?

Thanks
Rob

[ 08-15-2001: Message edited by: Al Uminum ]</STRONG>
We actualy used my car to perform this test. We swapped rims, and tried very hard to get them to rub, but nothing......[/QB][/QUOTE]

Thanks tuleman. Knowing this setup was tried successfully on a lowered CL makes my heart flutter. And btw would you know if the offset of +48 is correct on those rollers?

Thanks
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Originally posted by Technique:
<STRONG>

Yes, I tested the car under FULL STRESS. Trust me, I drive the car harder than 99.9% of drivers. No rubbing.</STRONG>
I just happen to be that .1%...
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Originally posted by Al Uminum:
<STRONG>

Thanks tuleman. Knowing this setup was tried successfully on a lowered CL makes my heart flutter. And btw would you know if the offset of +48 is correct on those rollers?

Thanks</STRONG>
Offset is +48, yes.
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Hey Technique
I have springs also but my car doesn't show that much gap over the wheels and tires.
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you lucky mofo, finally got rims
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Technique -- great detective work.

Since Mike has now revealed the rub issue himself, I can confirm that I have heard of no other reports about rubbing with the 235/45-17s Toyos on the SSR Competition wheels (17x8" +48 offset) -- Mike was the person that said they would rub...
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Originally posted by EricL:
<STRONG>Technique -- great detective work.

Since Mike has now revealed the rub issue himself,...

* SNIP *

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Mike revealing the rub issue hiself. Hmm...I'm getting a bad visual here... :p j/k
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Originally posted by H4mm3rm4n:
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Mike revealing the rub issue hiself. Hmm...I'm getting a bad visual here... :p j/k</STRONG>
Note -- I get the joke, however, this bit of information (SSRs will rub in front) was e-mailed to me and Mike insisted that there was rubbing in front.

It would have saved a lot of work to have had this information months ago.

Hey, its not like the subject was hemorrhoids or something similar... :
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Originally posted by Technique:
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HAHAHAHA. Go to bed, don't you have to work early tomorrow?

PS - I am considering getting 245 tires...</STRONG>

You might want to consider that -- the 245s are not XL rated so the casing on the tires will not be as firm and take the higher pressure... (You would lose another lb of rotational weight/unsprung weight due to the lighter constucttion of the 245 vs. the 235.)

The 235s (in the T1S) are XL rated and have the reinforced casing good for the high pressure...


Judging by the pictures of the tires, 40 psi seems the way to go...
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Originally posted by Mike:
<STRONG>that was me and i had the problem because the installers cut my bumpstops.
after installing the new bumpstops no more rubbing.

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if this is true then currently you are riding on your bumpstops? just curious. .
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talking about: Toyo 235/45ZR17-97W* T1-S Proxes on 17X8 SSR Competition Wheels ...

Al Uminum said:

Looks like the bulge from the increased tire width provides a bit of rubber protection from curb rash. I'd think that this would help those greatly with the stock rims?
I, too have a lowered car, and I'm wondering since the SSR's are 8" wide, what will the difference be in mounting the Toyo 235/45-17's on our 7" factory rims? It'll work OK, yes?


Technique (& others),

I know this setup handles great, and your suspension is lovin' ya for doing it, but do you think you sacrificed any appreciable ride "comfort" by changing to the Toyo's?

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Thanks for posting this information, Technique. Kudos to you.

Making the 235/45-17s work on the CL-S (with Comptech springs) is an issue near and dear to my heart. It seems like there's been a lot of conflicting (misleading?)info out there.

Trailblazers should get recognition for committing their time, money and intellect toward finding out solutions that work. Sharing the product of those efforts with fellow enthusiasts is generous and very cool.
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Originally posted by technoid:
<STRONG>?
I, too have a lowered car, and I'm wondering since the SSR's are 8" wide, what will the difference be in mounting the Toyo 235/45-17's on our 7" factory rims? It'll work OK, yes?


Technique (& others),

I know this setup handles great, and your suspension is lovin' ya for doing it, but do you think you sacrificed any appreciable ride "comfort" by changing to the Toyo's?

[ 08-21-2001: Message edited by: technoid ]</STRONG>
The tires (235's) will fit on 7" rims, although they fit better on 7.5" rims, and 8" is recommended and is the best fit.

I think the toyos are BETTER ride quality than the noisy stock tires...
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Originally posted by Wild Weasel:
<STRONG>Thanks for posting this information, Technique. Kudos to you.

Making the 235/45-17s work on the CL-S (with Comptech springs) is an issue near and dear to my heart. It seems like there's been a lot of conflicting (misleading?)info out there.

Trailblazers should get recognition for committing their time, money and intellect toward finding out solutions that work. Sharing the product of those efforts with fellow enthusiasts is generous and very cool. </STRONG>
Hey, thanks for the praise man. EricL is another "pioneer" and deserves great applause also. I am gonna push the limits and see if I can find some 245 tires that will perform as well as the Toyos and still give us the XL sidewall strength we deserve. I may stick with the same T1-S proxes in 235 but I feel I should do some more R&D to really prove they are #1.
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