so im looking for more power...am i at the end of the na spectrum?
08-20-2005, 09:48 PM
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so im looking for more power...am i at the end of the na spectrum?
im thinking i might have to pull these heads and give them a street port? mabye the cams while im at it? but before i do are there any other more affordable mods i should look at...EGR bypass? maybe the B pipe? i need 20+ hp
08-20-2005, 11:16 PM
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i just installed the bpipe and i would guess you gain about 5 whp from it, it's expensive, but i was looking for about all the boltons possible on top of a difference in sound which i accomplished
if i were you, i would look into seeing how far you can p/p the heads
also a high flow cat would yield SOME gains, but through all my research i have heard of very few doing it and those that did never reported track times/dynos, but in my experience, hiflow cats always yielded gains throughout the powerband rather than a delete pipe, also the hiflow cat is legal
when it's all said and done, why not contact unichip and find a local tuner, i'm sure they can muster up 10+ whp for you as well to bring your trap up 1 mph
i keep looking at your posts and am staying NA almost entirely because of you, keep it coming, cheers.
if i were you, i would look into seeing how far you can p/p the heads
also a high flow cat would yield SOME gains, but through all my research i have heard of very few doing it and those that did never reported track times/dynos, but in my experience, hiflow cats always yielded gains throughout the powerband rather than a delete pipe, also the hiflow cat is legal
when it's all said and done, why not contact unichip and find a local tuner, i'm sure they can muster up 10+ whp for you as well to bring your trap up 1 mph
i keep looking at your posts and am staying NA almost entirely because of you, keep it coming, cheers.
08-21-2005, 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by typeR
im thinking i might have to pull these heads and give them a street port? mabye the cams while im at it? but before i do are there any other more affordable mods i should look at...EGR bypass? maybe the B pipe? i need 20+ hp
First step there is to go get a dyno. I have some software that analyzes your power-curve to other parameters including wheel weight, diameter (at start and after the 1/8-mile), car weight, gearing, elevation etc, etc.
08-21-2005, 09:42 AM
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Without rebuilding the motor or other experiemental stuff (like cams, p&p the heads etc.) your best bet is to tune your power-curve to suit your tranny gear ratios and general car-setup at the track.
First step there is to go get a dyno. I have some software that analyzes your power-curve to other parameters including wheel weight, diameter (at start and after the 1/8-mile), car weight, gearing, elevation etc, etc.
First step there is to go get a dyno. I have some software that analyzes your power-curve to other parameters including wheel weight, diameter (at start and after the 1/8-mile), car weight, gearing, elevation etc, etc.
08-21-2005, 12:01 PM
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type R I lost HP porting and polishing my heads,and b-pipe gave me 3.8 hp but I do not have a S/C which will make a diffrence, good luck let us known
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08-21-2005, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by johntypes
type R I lost HP porting and polishing my heads,and b-pipe gave me 3.8 hp but I do not have a S/C which will make a diffrence, good luck let us known
08-21-2005, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by johntypes
I just noticed your a 6 speed saw those # and that is the first thing I thought.
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08-21-2005, 07:50 PM
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no he doesnt, read his sig closer. Its an '01 (no six speed), he has the Ice box for the six speed. Maybe it fits better with the 3.5 block? 
08-21-2005, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mclarenf3387
He has the 6 speed Ice Box cause he got rid of the VSA throtle body.
08-21-2005, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by typeR
ding ...ding ...ding...we have a winner
I think its a sign of spending to much time here when you start to memerize members mod lists
08-21-2005, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mclarenf3387
The scary part is I knew that without even looking at your sig.
I think its a sign of spending to much time here when you start to memerize members mod lists
I think its a sign of spending to much time here when you start to memerize members mod lists
08-21-2005, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by johntypes
type R I lost HP porting and polishing my heads,and b-pipe gave me 3.8 hp but I do not have a S/C which will make a diffrence, good luck let us known
08-22-2005, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
Without rebuilding the motor or other experiemental stuff (like cams, p&p the heads etc.) your best bet is to tune your power-curve to suit your tranny gear ratios and general car-setup at the track.
First step there is to go get a dyno. I have some software that analyzes your power-curve to other parameters including wheel weight, diameter (at start and after the 1/8-mile), car weight, gearing, elevation etc, etc.
First step there is to go get a dyno. I have some software that analyzes your power-curve to other parameters including wheel weight, diameter (at start and after the 1/8-mile), car weight, gearing, elevation etc, etc.
I had a good engineer friend at Omron Engineering help me with my Uni-chip set up. But I find most of my gains were in the suspension hook up. Although I am running a 6speed, a different animal.
08-22-2005, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by highroller
I had a good engineer friend at Omron Engineering help me with my Uni-chip set up. But I find most of my gains were in the suspension hook up. Although I am running a 6speed, a different animal.
PS, what tire/rim combo you got too?
08-22-2005, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rtatsutani
What suspension do you have? You set it up in a special way? You runnin some damn quick quarters with just the basic boltons and uni chip!
PS, what tire/rim combo you got too?
PS, what tire/rim combo you got too?
Yeah....those are some impressive NA numbers.
08-22-2005, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rtatsutani
What suspension do you have? You set it up in a special way? You runnin some damn quick quarters with just the basic boltons and uni chip!
PS, what tire/rim combo you got too?
PS, what tire/rim combo you got too?
He has a 3.5L swap which is putting him more on par of supercharged CLs.
08-22-2005, 03:59 PM
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Read people He has a 3.5L swap which is putting him more on par of supercharged CLs.
He has a 3.5L swap which is putting him more on par of supercharged CLs.
Man the education in this country is going downhillMore than have the replies can be answered from his sig...........READ PEOPLE READ
08-22-2005, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by spdy0001
Man the education in this country is going downhillMore than have the replies can be answered from his sig...........READ PEOPLE READ
reading comprehension>you two...hes obviously questioning what highroller has done to get him to 13.2@106.
08-22-2005, 05:21 PM
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reading comprehension>you two...hes obviously questioning what highroller has done to get him to 13.2@106.
And for all you know though, a few suspension tricks could be slicks for the track with some sort of traction bars.
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sorry, although highrollers car may have a good amount of mods and be a 6sp, i will not believe that low 13 1/4 mile. do you have a slip? never mind the 1/4 mile et. at 106 mph, you need the best conditions and over 270 whp. allmotors setup na was pretty fast too, and it had similar mods!
08-22-2005, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rtatsutani
What suspension do you have? You set it up in a special way? You runnin some damn quick quarters with just the basic boltons and uni chip!
PS, what tire/rim combo you got too?
PS, what tire/rim combo you got too?
I run 20 inch rims and tires. Tires made to order out of Japan.
08-22-2005, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by highroller
I do have some other engine mods and can feel a dime with my suspension set up the way it is . But because I have spies who frequent this forum I'll leave it at that. I am a newbe to this forum but an old fart when it comes to racing.
I run 20 inch rims and tires. Tires made to order out of Japan.
I run 20 inch rims and tires. Tires made to order out of Japan.
08-22-2005, 06:11 PM
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or that you can't read period. :troutslap
I graduated early from high school, with honors.
Originally Posted by Highroller
I run 20 inch rims and tires.
08-22-2005, 06:16 PM
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or that you can't read period. :troutslap
I graduated early from high school, with honors.
Originally Posted by Highroller
I run 20 inch rims and tires.
08-22-2005, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by highroller
I do have some other engine mods and can feel a dime with my suspension set up the way it is . But because I have spies who frequent this forum I'll leave it at that. I am a newbe to this forum but an old fart when it comes to racing.
I run 20 inch rims and tires. Tires made to order out of Japan.
I run 20 inch rims and tires. Tires made to order out of Japan.
HAHA spies
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Originally Posted by highroller
I do have some other engine mods and can feel a dime with my suspension set up the way it is . But because I have spies who frequent this forum I'll leave it at that. I am a newbe to this forum but an old fart when it comes to racing.
I run 20 inch rims and tires. Tires made to order out of Japan.
I run 20 inch rims and tires. Tires made to order out of Japan.
Sorry you're full of shit
08-22-2005, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bryanz3.0cl
reading comprehension>you two...hes obviously questioning what highroller has done to get him to 13.2@106.
Thank you. Geesh I tell you, everyone is so quick to point dummy fingers now days.
08-22-2005, 09:14 PM
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I had more mods than I/H to run mid 13's... so a 13.2 @ 106 is very impressive. However that requires at least 300whp. I will not believe 106mph without ~290whp... period! I have about 271whp and I ran 103'ish mph on a busted clutch... maybe 104-105mph could have been possible, but I was never able to achieve that.
Keep in mind that the S/C'd Comptech 6spd with S/C, Header, Exhaust, clutch/flywheel on BIG rims (like your 20's) hit 104-105mph!! That car made 305whp.
Keep in mind that the S/C'd Comptech 6spd with S/C, Header, Exhaust, clutch/flywheel on BIG rims (like your 20's) hit 104-105mph!! That car made 305whp.
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FWIW... on 295whp I ran 108 twice and a few times at 107 in my automatic.
Dyno on the 6-speed will get done as soon as I get off my ass and install the thermostat and switch.
Dyno on the 6-speed will get done as soon as I get off my ass and install the thermostat and switch.
08-23-2005, 04:55 AM
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FWIW... on 295whp I ran 108 twice and a few times at 107 in my automatic.
Dyno on the 6-speed will get done as soon as I get off my ass and install the thermostat and switch.
Dyno on the 6-speed will get done as soon as I get off my ass and install the thermostat and switch.
08-23-2005, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by typeR
i think he means on a 6 mt...i dyno'd 257 and went 106 but ofcourse thats at 232 torque whereas a 3.2 would have to be much closer to 300 to have torque in the 230 + range