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Old 06-08-2004 | 08:58 PM
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So, I have a serious addiction . . . . .

. . . to cars. I bought my CL-S in January and already have the itch for something new. Please, don't get me wrong, I love the CL-but I feel like I am ready for a new car.
So, I stoped by the Acura dealership and looked at the TL. Very nice. I have looked at this car before, so nothing new to me.
I then looked at the new goat. I seem to be the odd-ball-out in the fact that I like the way it looks. The interior is nothing special, but it is not down right cheap. Yes the exterior is nothing radical, but I like it. Again, nice car.
Then, I looked at the S60R. Lets just say this, I already have an apointment to take it out for a test drive. The Norkap (a somewhat shiny, bluey-black leather color )interior is simply beautifull!! Can't wait to see how it drives.
Then, there is the Lotus Elise which I allready have a deposit on. I can't really comment on it cause I haven't even seen the car-but I am allready having second thoughts on that guy. I just don't know how practical of a car it will turn out. In fact, having the word "practical" and Elise in the same sentence is probably illegal.

Anyways, enough rambling. How can I get rid of this money-sucking addiction????? I simply am in love with cars!! I really had to strain myself from not signing the dotted line today!! Am I the only one like this??
Old 06-08-2004 | 09:03 PM
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I sat in a elise last week at a local dealer. I would NEVER buy this car as a daily driver, you really need to see it in person to understand. There really is nothing to the car, but i guess thats the point. Also the car was sold already.

Anyways what the hell you looking for in a car?
Old 06-08-2004 | 09:09 PM
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I don't lust after other cars, except maybe for an NSX or Carrera GT. My problem is I'm addicted to modding my car. What will I do when I run out of mods for it?
Old 06-08-2004 | 09:09 PM
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You're asking that question in the wrong forum. Go for the Elise. It will be a blast to drive. Hopefully you didn't plan on driving it to work every day when you ordered it but if you did............... This is a car forum. Problems like this is why we are all here.
Old 06-08-2004 | 09:09 PM
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I also have the itch but for an S2000, but it isnt practical as a daily driver!! Sucks, wish I had the extra $$ to have both, oh well shit happens!

Just make a smart choice!
Old 06-08-2004 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Anyways what the hell you looking for in a car?
Funny you should ask. I looked at the GTO mainly just for sh*ts and giggles. I can pretty much say that I would never get the car. I mean, the only attraction to it is the engine.

What i really want in a car is luxury, performance and room. I know that by saying this it completley eliminates the Elise. The only reason I would get that car is for the fun to drive factor. But I think that for now, it just simply does NOT make any sense. Too bad, cause it would be one hell of a car for Sunday auto-x'ing!!

But anyways, anybody know of a cure to the addiction??? Am I the only one?
Old 06-08-2004 | 10:05 PM
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The Elise is like a Go Cart with a VIN #, they are not everyday cars.

Did you know the Elise is about 5inches shorter than a Miata?


I think the 05 GTO is going to kick ass. Has plenty of standard features and room to make a fine everday driver and will have 400hp to boot along with some cool new features. Granted, the only things I think is missing that's really necessary are Xenons and heated seats, Sunroof (nice, but take it or leave it), Nav (nice, take it or leave it).


The S60R is very nice, but its still a luxury sedan....if that's what your looking for go for it but you'll get bored of it otherwise.
Old 06-08-2004 | 10:15 PM
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Aint no way man... I am 26 and have 12 cars so far. None were wrecked.. Just got 1 per year and had a few play cars in between.

Here is how I see it. I love cars. And because I do, I will always have a car payment. So if I can get a new car for the same price (or very close) to what I am paying now... Why the hell not get something new..


Anyone else agree?
Old 06-08-2004 | 10:31 PM
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Anyone else agree?
I do, why not with today's rates.....could give 2 shits whether I own a car outright or not because regardless I would get rid of it after 3 years max anyway. What I won't do though is roll negative equity into another loan or lease, that's bad.


Overall I get bored of cars too quickly, wish I didn't as my wallet would certainly be a lot thicker.

Come to think of it I wish cars were of no interest to me.
Old 06-08-2004 | 10:56 PM
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So how do you guys manage to get a new car every year? I mean, I have been really good about always having some sort of equity going into my next car. But, if you were to buy a new car every year, do you guys pay extra every month? Or do you put extra down every time you go into a new car?

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Old 06-08-2004 | 11:09 PM
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I take it you guys buy and don't lease. Correct?
Old 06-08-2004 | 11:40 PM
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Lotus, TL, Pontiac, Volvo?, you're definitely getting a wide sampling. What did you drive before the CLS?
If you really have, as you describe it, an addiction, then no 1 car can satisfy, IMO. You have a beautiful, black, headered, lowered, comfortable, dependable, and classy CLS., (I've seen it). I don't know what out there would offer a huge leap over it for the price.

I'm happy with the CLS 6 speed, but truthfully, I've only had this one 2-3 months! Nothing really ever tempts me but the BMW 330ci and even that seems like a trendy overpriced non-original choice. The CL is more unique, due, at least, to fewer numbers, and is very fun to drive.

Hope you can end your 'addiction', but addictions by definition, can never be satisfied.
When you drive my 6 speed maybe you'll want to stay in the fold, but I kinda doubt it from reading your post, but you gotta admit it offers a lot in one car. Good luck with your shopping. I'd say, always think it over overnight if you feel you are being impulsive.
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Old 06-09-2004 | 01:05 AM
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i have never gotten bored with my cl-s, i add a new mods here and there and you fall in love all over again, and to tell you the truth i wouldnt trade my car in for anything short of an m3
Old 06-09-2004 | 02:32 AM
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The Elise doesn't have A/C or a radio? :sqnteek: EFF THAT.
Old 06-09-2004 | 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Beltfed
The Elise is like a Go Cart with a VIN #, they are not everyday cars.

Did you know the Elise is about 5inches shorter than a Miata?


I think the 05 GTO is going to kick ass. Has plenty of standard features and room to make a fine everday driver and will have 400hp to boot along with some cool new features. Granted, the only things I think is missing that's really necessary are Xenons and heated seats, Sunroof (nice, but take it or leave it), Nav (nice, take it or leave it).

Maybe the '05 might kickasss but the '04 at 350 hp isn't that impressive. It may run faster than Car and Driver got it to run ( http://caranddriver.com/article.asp?...&page_number=4 ) but you have to add the 3-5k premium on to the base price. At that price they Pontiac dealers are trying to sell the GTO at a Corvette price I should know I looked before them before my G35C purchase.
Old 06-09-2004 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ancz9
The Elise doesn't have A/C or a radio? :sqnteek: EFF THAT.
Actually it does have that. But still, like someone else said, it is basically a go-cart with a vin #-pretty good description actually. I allready have my sales guy at Acura looking for a 6-speed navi-but I don't think that I will be seeing that any time soon.
After sleeping on it, I realized that for me at the present moment, it does not make sense to get into something as expensive as the Volvo. And, after driving the CL this morning, I do love it-just NEED a manual. So, hopefully we can find a manual with navi. Anyone know of any hanging around??
Old 06-09-2004 | 10:06 AM
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Yeah, I buy... Only ever leased a 2000 A4 because it came to be $184 a month. That allowed me to get a classic '64 Mustang as a play car.

People always think I am rich. I say hell no. I just have good credit..

I basically wait till I break even. For example.. If I buy a 25,000 car,
#1 - make sure your downpayment is at elast what the tax and tags cost.
#2 - I will make 2 or 3 extra payments over the first year. And when I break even, between what I owe and what they will give me on trade, I trade it in. Becuase if they give me 19 thousand, I only pay tax on 6 thousand etc..

When I started driving, my first car was a 1994 Ford Ranger. Payments of 280 a month. And every car since then has gone up a little bit. I am at 400 bucks a month for the CL. And that was with no money out of my pocket.. I dotn think i would go over 400 a month. Befor I did I would go to leasing.

The way I see it, some people smoke cigarettes, some do drugs, I drive my addiction. So I dont feel bad when I have payments.
Old 06-09-2004 | 10:12 AM
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But anyways, anybody know of a cure to the addiction??? Am I the only one?
Nah, you're not the only one... I was getting a new car every 2 years or so until I got the TL. I found the cures for the addiction to be:

1) Buying a house. We went to contract in May 2002 (same year we got married), moved in May 2003 when construction was complete. Priorities change when you have a mortgage and a marriage. Not only that, but once you realize that cars are one of the biggest losing investments you can have you start to keep the money in your pocket and not throw it away on cars. My next purchase will be a low mileage 2000-2001 S2000. They're selling for about $19-$21k in my area with about 11k miles. Now, the guy or gal I'll be buying it from paid close to $30k new, possibly more... but for me, I'd be getting a barely used car which I can easily put 100k miles on, for $10-$12k less then he/she paid. Makes more sense to me.

2) Modifying... lots of it. When I get comfortable with my car, I do a mod. It may be to the engine or exterior, but either way, once it's installed it feels like a brand new car and you fall in love all over again. Currently I have about 4-5 different items waiting to be installed in my garage, but I put them on 1 or 2 at a time so I can get that new car feeling every few weeks/months
Old 06-09-2004 | 11:57 AM
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Nah, you're not the only one... I was getting a new car every 2 years or so until I got the TL. I found the cures for the addiction to be:

1) Buying a house. We went to contract in May 2002 (same year we got married), moved in May 2003 when construction was complete. Priorities change when you have a mortgage and a marriage. Not only that, but once you realize that cars are one of the biggest losing investments you can have you start to keep the money in your pocket and not throw it away on cars. My next purchase will be a low mileage 2000-2001 S2000. They're selling for about $19-$21k in my area with about 11k miles. Now, the guy or gal I'll be buying it from paid close to $30k new, possibly more... but for me, I'd be getting a barely used car which I can easily put 100k miles on, for $10-$12k less then he/she paid. Makes more sense to me.

2) Modifying... lots of it. When I get comfortable with my car, I do a mod. It may be to the engine or exterior, but either way, once it's installed it feels like a brand new car and you fall in love all over again. Currently I have about 4-5 different items waiting to be installed in my garage, but I put them on 1 or 2 at a time so I can get that new car feeling every few weeks/months
Yeah, the mortage is a good point-considering I just got my first one!! Anyways, I think that I will just throw more money into the car with more mods. I know that, like you said, with every new mod, it feels like a new car. Now, I just have to decide if it would be worth it to get into an '03 6 spd=and then mod that guy. I am really changing gears! :'(
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definitely not alone. I've had my TLS for over 2 years and am a little bored of it. I love it and overall she's been good to me but I am already looking for my next car (fortunately, and unfortunately, finances keep me in check). At this point I am even thinking about selling the TL to get something cheaper like a civic if I get into Business school for next year. If I do I will suck it up for 2 years (it will be torture) until I get out and start working again....at which point I can hopefully get something nasty!
Old 06-09-2004 | 12:34 PM
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I now lust after retirement and things that have equity.

Earlier you start, the earlier you can retire and buy things that don't matter


ya, I'm sick of CLS too. So I can relate. I'm just controlling my spending. I make a lot more $$ now then i did when I purchased it which makes it even harder. But, I look forward to being able to save that much more when this pig is paid in a year.
Old 06-09-2004 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SiGGy
I now lust after retirement and things that have equity.

Earlier you start, the earlier you can retire and buy things that don't matter
Yeah, I know. But that is the hard part, I allready haver some money into my place, which is gaining worth as we speak, and I allready have retirement money set aside each month-starting at 21 is pretty good-no?? I also figure that, hell, you only live once-might as well make it the best it can be.
Old 06-09-2004 | 02:28 PM
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Yeah, I know. But that is the hard part, I allready haver some money into my place, which is gaining worth as we speak, and I allready have retirement money set aside each month-starting at 21 is pretty good-no?? I also figure that, hell, you only live once-might as well make it the best it can be.

your doing good for 21 wish I had done the same
Old 06-09-2004 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SiGGy
I now lust after retirement and things that have equity.

Earlier you start, the earlier you can retire and buy things that don't matter


ya, I'm sick of CLS too. So I can relate. I'm just controlling my spending. I make a lot more $$ now then i did when I purchased it which makes it even harder. But, I look forward to being able to save that much more when this pig is paid in a year.


now i just have a certain part of the check go straight to a cred union account....so it makes it real hard to just easily withdrawl money.
Old 06-09-2004 | 02:45 PM
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now i just have a certain part of the check go straight to a cred union account....so it makes it real hard to just easily withdrawl money.
That's the only way that I manage to save for retirement!! Otherwise, I will spend it all!
Old 06-09-2004 | 02:58 PM
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I just got my CLS a little over a month ago and i'm looking at gettin a 350Z. I love my CL too, but i really want a Z. I'm probably going to keep my car for at least a year before i trade it, i have the same addiction as you and i'm sure there a lot more of us out there and that fact that you're 21, you're doin damn well. I'm 18 and put all my money in my cars but i need to start saving, i just have an addiction to spend all my money on cars. Oh well, it's fun. The lotus is nice, and cheap for what it is, but if i were you, i'd get a Z and put some money into it. Godd Luck on whatever you do.
Old 06-09-2004 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SiGGy
ya, I'm sick of CLS too. So I can relate. I'm just controlling my spending. I make a lot more $$ now then i did when I purchased it which makes it even harder. But, I look forward to being able to save that much more when this pig is paid in a year.
Same here, I'm much better off now, but may have to take a year off to work on my MBA and also want to buy a house after that. I'll pay the CL-S off right before starting school in the fall, if I start. It's hard to not have a new toy, but I guess the CL-S isn't that bad, it's just that you keep seeing all these nice new cars coming out. But in reality, I can't find anything worth trading the CL for that's worth the extra money in my opinion...at least that I can afford. I test drove the G35 sedan and didn't see what all the hype was about...I don't even like the way it looks, but the coupe wasn't out at the time. The coupe on the other hand has a beautiful exterior, but I just don't think the interior is worth the money. So I think I'll just keep my CL until the C6 Z06 comes out and I'll hopefully get that. If my CL hits 100K miles before then, I'll just buy a Civic/Accord with about 15-20K miles to hold me over.
Old 06-09-2004 | 04:26 PM
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may have to take a year off to work on my MBA.
Is this the Sally Struthers School of Business? It took me just about 4 years to get my MBA, not to mention I had a ton of core classes waived. I know one person in my program who finished the degree in 3 years (was going full time though).

Good luck.
Old 06-09-2004 | 04:41 PM
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Is this the Sally Struthers School of Business? It took me just about 4 years to get my MBA, not to mention I had a ton of core classes waived. I know one person in my program who finished the degree in 3 years (was going full time though).

Good luck.
haha...sally struthers! Most full time MBA programs are two year programs. My sister did hers in two years at one of the top business schools in the country (I only mention it to give some credit to the argument). The programs I'm looking into are also two years. I think there are 1.5 year programs but thats taking a full Summer semester. I too didn't think there were 1 year programs.

Part time is usually 4-5 years and then Georgetown offers a 3 year combined Law and Business degree for those accepted (full time of course)...this however I heard is very demanding.
Old 06-09-2004 | 05:11 PM
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haha...sally struthers! Most full time MBA programs are two year programs. My sister did hers in two years at one of the top business schools in the country (I only mention it to give some credit to the argument). The programs I'm looking into are also two years.
My program includes 5 more classes (assuming you didn't have an Acct undergrad degree) than any of the other MBA programs so that adds to the work load.

I personally couldn't take five MBA classes per semester, f* that......too much work even going full time. There aren't enough hours in the day, at least with accounting. Besides Finance, most other programs are easier.

And come think of it, I think it took me 3 1/2 years.
Old 06-09-2004 | 10:41 PM
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Actually a couple schools offer intensive one year MBA programs. They may not be top-tier, but it's what I can do right now. Besides, I couldn't handle going to a university again for anything over a year...I'm not to fond of school, but you gotta do what you gotta do. Two of the schools with one year programs are the University of Florida and Florida International University. Obviously I've planned to stay in Florida to keep the costs down.
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