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again 50 whp max... where is the 315-325 WHP claimed by guys here....!!!!

Same gain on CLS auto that sucks, right... that is $100/WHP

 

dude just change the pulley and up the boost no biggie

 

I am curious to see the dyno charts that Comptech will provide. They claim 40-50 hp... wonder where in the power-band this gain is. I suspect 30+ whp gain from 5000rpm onwards... but wonder what the low-end will be like.

It will be a good comparison to run a S/C Cl-S 6spd vs. a NOS Cl-S 6spd!

 

4495 for a supercharger?! FORGET THAT!

 

"only 50whp?!"

Yes, it's only running 5.5psi.

"where in the powerband?"

Throughout most of it would be the logical guess.

"$4500 for a supercharger?"

and icebox intake, fuel system upgrades, battery relocation hardware and battery.


Still it's a lot, yes.

 

we will be able to get it for $3800, and it doesn't include the battery. still, it's alot.

 

I am already selling them for $3900 shipped!

Dean

 

You'll see the 40-50HP from idle all the way to redline. It's a roots blower, so you don't have to wait for it build up boost. You put it on, the car is 50 HP stronger, and you'll never know when the boost is happening (the roots give nice linear power). Of course, you'll notice the 50HP!

 

There's no way they are running 5.5 PSI of boost on this kit. With 5.5 PSI, you should get a 40% HP gain (say 210WHP /wo blower to 294 WHP /w the blower). They are only giving a 24% gain.

I'm guessing they are only running around 3.3 PSI of boost. Kind of pathetic for the money.

Damn 10.5:1 compression!

 

I wonder how much the installation would cost??

 

Installation is showing at 10-12 hours, though it probably wont take that long.

Dean

 

To put this into perspective, the Blower will give 700% of the power gains than what the headers do alone. This is taking into account the entire rev band and not just a single point comparison. As has been stated before, look at the total area gained on a plot and that region is significantly greater with the blower.

Another way to look at it, the headers alone give a total increase of overall power over stock of about 104%. The SC will give a total power increase over stock of about 130%.

And just another and simpler way to look at it, think of accelerating in 3rd gear as quickly as you do in 2nd!!

As for seeing 325WHP, we need to get a blower first and then start seeing where the power can be had. I'll be interested to see EGT values along with knock counts to determine what else, if any. can be done with the blower.

 

I'd like to hear about the torque!! When's the blower going in Steve???
It would be interesting to see the gains made by the blower+P&P manifold vs. just a blower.

 

Soon, very soon. I'm tossing on when but it will certainly be on before the end of the year.

 

for the price to the amount of power we're gaining i dont think thats very good. thats just my opinion but 3900$ for 50whp..put it this way for 2grand i gained 37whp with i/e/h. i dynoed at 247.6 i'm not gonna be very impressed if i spend 4 grand and i can't break 300 to the wheels, to me thats just pointless i might as well spend a grand on a decent nitrous system. thats just my opinion, plus we dont know when comptech is gonna make a higher boost pulley either...i dunno not really feeling the charger anymore unless the pulley comes out really soon

 

My question is, what does it take to install this type of blowere?

I have installed a Vortech Blower on a Maxima, and it was a 2 day project. But they require oil lines, fuel lines ran, etc. How much stuff does this thing have that needs to be bolted up? Any ideas?

 

You don't need to get a Pulley from Comptech.

You can get one from the manufacture of that SC. It's the same type of blower used on the GTP. We can use there pulleys.

 

It should not be as difficult as the Vortech unit. This Eaton/Magnusson unit is self lubricated. It will just be all of the mechanical components you have to deal with from the drive area to the blower support.

 

Not true. There are two type of pullies (regardless of size) available for the GTP. The stock pulley is pressed on but can be replaced. Magnusson also offers a nosedrive assembly which uses a keyed pulley.

My guess is that they will use a keyed style on this drive shaft.

But as of right now we do not know the ratio being used. The GTP uses the 90 CI blower wheras we will be getting the 62 CI blower. So I assume we will be having a different ratio so that the sizes available (even if the ID is the same) may not work.

Plus, it wan't Eaton or Magnuson selling pullies, it was other aftermarket companies.

 

Has it EVER occured to anyone here (besides Scalbert) that you can LOWER your your quarter mile times and actually REDUCE your peak HP at the same time?!?!

All I'm hearing is "Waahhh waaah waaahhh 50hp for $4,000" when before all I was hearing was "waaah waaah waaaahh we have to wait for the supercharger and the Accord people already have it"

Funny thing is the EXACT same thing happened at the Accord message boards. Everyone was crying about having to wait for the super charger to come out and then when it came out everyone cried about how expensive it was.

Go buy your frigging bottle of nitrous and quit complaing about performance mods being expensive.

If your torque is up 30-40% at a low RPM like 2,000, guess what you are going to run quicker 1/4 mile times regardless of what the peak HP number is.

Damn I need to find a way to invent a mod that has a 20hp power spike at 7,000 rpms so half the people here can brag about how they got a 20hp gain in peak HP for only $100!!! <sigh>

 

 

Torque is 272.7 at 5,000RPM

Dean

 

Dean, how about @ 3k rpms? That's a VERY nice #!!!

 

We're not bitching about the money, it's the small power gains that it's giving. On a normal setup, you should see 40% more HP and torque from a 5.5 PSI boost setup. I don't have a problem unloading $4k for 40% power gain. It's the torque that rocks the world.

I agree with you though. Peak HP is marketing bullshit. It's how much you raise the HP/TQ at the low end that counts. I can swap the cam in my V8 chevy and have 500 HP! Absolutely no torque or power until 4000RPM though.

I think the consensus is we'd be happier spending $4k on 40% gains (like 300HP to the wheels) versus the 24% gains of 260HP to the wheels.

I'm not saying that I wouldn't put the blower on.... I just wish the output was a little better. I'd like more low RPM torque. I could give a rats ass about HP at 6000 RPM (hence the reason I don't have OBX or Comptech headers on my car).

 

The headers yield 10 ft lbs across the rpm range. not much but it's respectable.

 

Could this SC be removed in a couple hours if the car had to go into the dealer for warranty work? The VC isn't near simple, but if this thing can be done, I would get it and just remove it if I had to take it in.

Only reason why I am probably not going to get one, is because of warranty. and now the tranny is covered till 100k, eek.

 

I am curious about removal time too....And also, what does a blower do to gas milage???

 

It will only go down if you are in boost. Stay out of boost you will get your normal gas milege

 

I was expect at least 35% gain at the wheel instead of 24% gain.