Rl bbk
03-03-2011, 01:18 AM
#1
Rl bbk
I'm going to do the rl bbk in the front. I was doing some research and the only place that sells oem calibers I think is acuraoemparts.com they cost $387 each that's ridiculous. Does anyone know any other places to buy new calibers or even re manufactured ones?
03-03-2011, 08:42 AM
#5
I couldn't find any used sets on ebay and I doubt the local junk yards will have newer rl's in there. Will I be able to still use the stock 03 CLS wheels until I get new ones with the rl bbk?
03-03-2011, 08:43 AM
#6
Rondog isn't the rotora bbk expensive compared to doing the rl kit?
03-03-2011, 08:48 AM
#7
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check car-part.com thats where i got mine. i just checked a few mins ago and they have some for $100 per caliper. i saw one for $75 and yes rotora is about double the price of the RL setup. your stock cls wheels wont clear the RL kit. but the 3g stock TL wheels do.
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03-03-2011, 08:58 AM
#9
Lol I don't have those wheels though.. What about the stock 03 ones will they work for now? I rather buy spacers before I bought another set of oem wheels. I've been going crazy on which type of wheels to buy. I figured out which size I want to run though 18x8.5 +24 and 18x9.5 +26. I still need to figure out tire sizes.
03-03-2011, 09:04 AM
#10
Rotora 1 piece rotor Rotora BBK are discontinued. You can't get replacement rotors for them anymore, got to be custom made. That will be way more expensive than getting stock 350z rotor and RL pads. There's a plenty info about it in thread on here. You will also need custom made bracket
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-cl-2001-2003-50/rl-calipers-fit-behind-05-tl-17-rims-757273/
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-cl-2001-2003-50/rl-calipers-fit-behind-05-tl-17-rims-757273/
Last edited by StreetKA; 03-03-2011 at 09:08 AM.
03-03-2011, 09:18 AM
#11
Love my RL bbk. 
But yeah stock wheels ain't gonna work. People have "said" that 15mm spacer will clear the Rl bbk, but noone to my knowledge actually has done it. Plus do you really want to ride on spacers? I had to shave down the studs on my bracket just to clear the 3rd gen wheels, and it's a super tight fit.
Rondog is right, I'm limited to wheel choices now, but I can deal with that. Streetka also makes a good point, you can't mount these calipers without the bracket, and the guy who makes them is always super busy building engines... You'd have to find out what the posiible wait time will be on getting a set.
Btw- foxbody what are your plans with your car? Seems like your trying to buy every performance part out there...
lol. You really need to start a build thread
But yeah stock wheels ain't gonna work. People have "said" that 15mm spacer will clear the Rl bbk, but noone to my knowledge actually has done it. Plus do you really want to ride on spacers? I had to shave down the studs on my bracket just to clear the 3rd gen wheels, and it's a super tight fit.
Rondog is right, I'm limited to wheel choices now, but I can deal with that. Streetka also makes a good point, you can't mount these calipers without the bracket, and the guy who makes them is always super busy building engines... You'd have to find out what the posiible wait time will be on getting a set.
Btw- foxbody what are your plans with your car? Seems like your trying to buy every performance part out there...
lol. You really need to start a build thread
03-03-2011, 10:05 AM
#12
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Lol I don't have those wheels though.. What about the stock 03 ones will they work for now? I rather buy spacers before I bought another set of oem wheels. I've been going crazy on which type of wheels to buy. I figured out which size I want to run though 18x8.5 +24 and 18x9.5 +26. I still need to figure out tire sizes.
03-03-2011, 10:09 AM
#13
dude u need to do some research on wheels... first of all why would u wanna run staggered wheels on FWD second stock off set is + 55 at 7 inches wide ... do u have any idea how far a +26 9.5 in wheel is gonna stick out ? do u really wanna look like one of those cars ? really? ... really !
Wheels like that are for show, and with all the posting about performance mods you've been doing I'm assuming you want go... That would be like shooting yourself in the foot and then trying to run away
03-03-2011, 10:10 AM
#14
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never really understood why people get butt hurt over staggered on FWD. people like the look what difference does it make. pull/roll fenders and camber. no wheels sticking out problem solved.
03-03-2011, 02:58 PM
#16
I would agree with everything thats said on here. I got my kit put together for pretty cheap.
As for Paul, he will get the bracket to you within a resonable amount of time since the last time I spoke with him, he still had some left that were premade. He is busy but you should get them within a couple weeks.
You will need about a 15-20mm spacer to get the stock wheels to fit the RL calipers and thats a very tight squeeze around the barrel. If your looking at aftermarket wheels, you'll need something at least +40 offset with no lip.
As for Paul, he will get the bracket to you within a resonable amount of time since the last time I spoke with him, he still had some left that were premade. He is busy but you should get them within a couple weeks.
You will need about a 15-20mm spacer to get the stock wheels to fit the RL calipers and thats a very tight squeeze around the barrel. If your looking at aftermarket wheels, you'll need something at least +40 offset with no lip.
03-03-2011, 04:42 PM
#18
Is it really necessary to start a thread asking about every single part for the car. Either use the search button and do research, or start your own thread and ask all these questions in the same thread. Not trying to be a jerk but all these new threads are excessive.
Yea why you guys getting butt hurt doing things that dont make sense is teh new cool. Whenever I have a decision to make i think what would common sense do and do the opposite. It makes me feel different and special.
Yea why you guys getting butt hurt doing things that dont make sense is teh new cool. Whenever I have a decision to make i think what would common sense do and do the opposite. It makes me feel different and special.
03-03-2011, 05:24 PM
#20
Well I was looking into the wilwood kit also, would that setup give me more clearance/choices than the rl setup wheel wise? I'm actually going more for looks than performance with this car. I own a 9 second drag bike and building a caged, mini tubbed, 92 mustang hatch drag car so no need to try and be crazy fast in this car. I want it to be a nice quick luxurious daily driver and still be able to bring it to the track for some fun once and awhile. I don't plan on doing to much performance wise and the only power adder will be spray. If I can run some 12's on spray and 13's all motor I would be very happy. I was thinking about starting a build thread so I guess why not. I have a lot of plans for the car because I know exactly what I want to do with it pretty much. Once I hit a certain point with it and I'm satisfied I will be happy, it's not going to be some never ending project because I have my mustang for that.
03-03-2011, 06:40 PM
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Is it really necessary to start a thread asking about every single part for the car. Either use the search button and do research, or start your own thread and ask all these questions in the same thread. Not trying to be a jerk but all these new threads are excessive.
Yea why you guys getting butt hurt doing things that dont make sense is teh new cool. Whenever I have a decision to make i think what would common sense do and do the opposite. It makes me feel different and special.
Yea why you guys getting butt hurt doing things that dont make sense is teh new cool. Whenever I have a decision to make i think what would common sense do and do the opposite. It makes me feel different and special.
03-03-2011, 09:09 PM
#22
Thats cool if you liek a look, but some people might look at you with a tongue in cheek like a poser. If you don't care about how other's think of you, shouldn't bother you much, then again, thats why we mod our cars to express ourselves and basically show off. If I saw a guy put something like a non-functional intercooler in the front of an non-turbo car just to look a certain way, I would look at him funny. Howabout an RWD emblem on the back of a FWD car? Same with staggered, i would look at the car like, that's nice, but weird on that car. Also, the tires have too much grip in the rear, resulting in under steer in extreme situations, could be dangerous. Please don't be offended, actually, i ran a setup on my CL with a bigger lip in the rear, but I had to because of the damn BBk up front, the wheels were same size width front to back, I would have done the same sized lip in the front as the rear if I had smaller brakes that would allow it.
On a side note, I can't believe Rotora is done, and their kits cannot be replaced with single piece rotors. The 2 piece rotor is way too big too. I'm gonna end up going back to stock caliperswhen i need rotors, uggghh. unless I find something that won't push the wheels out too much.
On a side note, I can't believe Rotora is done, and their kits cannot be replaced with single piece rotors. The 2 piece rotor is way too big too. I'm gonna end up going back to stock caliperswhen i need rotors, uggghh. unless I find something that won't push the wheels out too much.
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03-04-2011, 02:34 AM
#23
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im not offended at all. thats why im asking to get a better understanding why it bothers people so much. im surprised you didnt know about the rotor thing. that was put out a while back.
03-04-2011, 04:26 AM
#24
Basically, staggered setups are for more grip in the rear. The idea is to have wider rear wheels so you can put wider rear tires on them. This is done to add grip to the rear of the car so that it can handle better. If you do a staggered setup on a fwd car it is pointless because that grip needs to be added to the front instead since that's where the drive is at.
I'm sorry that what I wrote was so obvious, but you didn't seem to understand.
This is how it would be benifitical:
If you think that looks bad, then just keep it equally flush all around.
I'm sorry that what I wrote was so obvious, but you didn't seem to understand.
This is how it would be benifitical:
If you think that looks bad, then just keep it equally flush all around.
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03-04-2011, 04:30 AM
#25
I use this site all the time. Great stuff. If you dont put in a zip code it will search the whole US and 99% of all the junkyards will ship.
03-04-2011, 12:11 PM
#27
Basically, staggered setups are for more grip in the rear. The idea is to have wider rear wheels so you can put wider rear tires on them. This is done to add grip to the rear of the car so that it can handle better. If you do a staggered setup on a fwd car it is pointless because that grip needs to be added to the front instead since that's where the drive is at.
I'm sorry that what I wrote was so obvious, but you didn't seem to understand.
This is how it would be benifitical:
If you think that looks bad, then just keep it equally flush all around.
I'm sorry that what I wrote was so obvious, but you didn't seem to understand.
This is how it would be benifitical:
If you think that looks bad, then just keep it equally flush all around.
Really? Guess uve never auto x'ed or took a tur fast and ur rear started to slide out. Happened to me a few times. Front gripped and rear started to swing around.
03-04-2011, 03:16 PM
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Basically, staggered setups are for more grip in the rear. The idea is to have wider rear wheels so you can put wider rear tires on them. This is done to add grip to the rear of the car so that it can handle better. If you do a staggered setup on a fwd car it is pointless because that grip needs to be added to the front instead since that's where the drive is at.
I'm sorry that what I wrote was so obvious, but you didn't seem to understand.
This is how it would be benifitical:
If you think that looks bad, then just keep it equally flush all around.
I'm sorry that what I wrote was so obvious, but you didn't seem to understand.
This is how it would be benifitical:
If you think that looks bad, then just keep it equally flush all around.
That is a FWD Drag car, the reason they put skinnies on the back is for lest rolling resistance, that car does not in fact go around a circuit.
The point you made absolutely has no merit in this post whatsoever, if anything in real racing with front wheel drive cars they actually dont run a smaller rim, they run a higher profile tire to get the rear to rotate more under trail braking.
And yes before someone comes and flames me yes I have experimented with it on my 91 civic hatch back, I ran a 205 50 15 up front and a 205 60 15 in the rear and that mofo under braking was so easy to rotate.
03-04-2011, 04:40 PM
#30
My thread went way off topic can someone answer the question I asked in post number 20? I want to know if I would have more clearance with the wilwood kit?
03-04-2011, 05:24 PM
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But don't quote me on that I honestly am not sure I think it was said you need to use TL wheels to get the clearance.
03-04-2011, 09:17 PM
#32
It's not about the diameter as much as it is about the style of wheel that gives caliper clearance. Something with a flat face and no lip will generally have more caliper clearance. But some brakes will not even accommodate any wheels that fit our cars because they are so damn big and notintended for the Cl to begin with. A 55mm offset is the highest offset in the industry besides oldschool Legends (65mm), and our fenders are shallow. So in hindsite, you might be better off with OEM NSX calipers or something relatively smaller, so your wheels won;t need spacers. I think that's the route I'm taking because I may or maynot need new rotors soon.
03-05-2011, 10:08 AM
#33
Now you guys are making me want to stay away from a bbk because I don't want to limit my wheel options or run a spacer. What if I buy some really good rotors for the stock brakes will that fix the warping problem? I would also upgrade to stainless steel lines I'm sure that would help some.
03-05-2011, 12:09 PM
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Heres a general rule of thumb:
If the wheels will work on a 3G TL 6MT or Type S, theyll clear the RL BBK. Just go with the less aggressive fitting wheels for TLs. The A-Specs for instance will clear, and they are +45mm and 8.5" wide (or 8" depending on the set you go with).
Im currently running 3G TL base five spoke wheels and they clear without a problem. IIRC the offset is +45mm and they dont rub. Ive run more aggressive wheels without problems.
19x8.5 +40mm RJ Devotions. No spacers, no rubbing up front using 235/35-19s.
18x8.5 +43mm Work CR-Kais. No spacers, no rubbing, using 235/40-18s.
17x7.5(?) +45mm TL Base wheels.
If the wheels will work on a 3G TL 6MT or Type S, theyll clear the RL BBK. Just go with the less aggressive fitting wheels for TLs. The A-Specs for instance will clear, and they are +45mm and 8.5" wide (or 8" depending on the set you go with).
Im currently running 3G TL base five spoke wheels and they clear without a problem. IIRC the offset is +45mm and they dont rub. Ive run more aggressive wheels without problems.
19x8.5 +40mm RJ Devotions. No spacers, no rubbing up front using 235/35-19s.
18x8.5 +43mm Work CR-Kais. No spacers, no rubbing, using 235/40-18s.
17x7.5(?) +45mm TL Base wheels.
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03-05-2011, 01:20 PM
#36
I like the first picture with the ron jon wheels. I haven't decided which brand or style wheels to buy, I'm pretty sure I know what specs I want to run size wise. 18x8.5 +24 and 18x9.5 +26 would those fit or does it all depend on the design of the wheel? I will have the fenders rolled and run some camber if needed.
03-05-2011, 03:50 PM
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I like the first picture with the ron jon wheels. I haven't decided which brand or style wheels to buy, I'm pretty sure I know what specs I want to run size wise. 18x8.5 +24 and 18x9.5 +26 would those fit or does it all depend on the design of the wheel? I will have the fenders rolled and run some camber if needed.
03-05-2011, 03:59 PM
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03-05-2011, 06:01 PM
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IIRC the Wilwood kit is about the same as the RL kit.
The spoke design makes a much bigger difference then the offset. But I doubt a low offset such as that would give you any issues.
The spoke design makes a much bigger difference then the offset. But I doubt a low offset such as that would give you any issues.