beerknurd

I talked to a Rhino liner installer today about the posibility of spraying the wheel wells lining with their crap. He's not sure if the liner will stick to the plastic, but if it could, he's be able to spray 1/8 inch of the crap on both sides. The price range is $50-$75 a corner. He said it would be less if I brought him the linings already removed from the car.

I'm thinking about doing this.

If i only did 2 wheel wells, would you suggest the front of the rear?

Anyone ever hear of anyone doing this on any car? I imagine the Rhino liner is better then the spray can stuff as i can't imagine them being as thick and dense as the Rhino crap.

Any opinions are welcome.

CLpower

one queston, why would you even want to? Is the current fender liner not doing it's job or what? What do you expect to accomplish from doing this?


I can't even think of a reason why you would want to do this?

beerknurd

trying to supress some road noise. I'm a stickler for that kinda thing. since i put the 02/03 mirros on my 01, the highest contributer to cabin noise seems to be coming from the wheel wells.

CLpower

wow, you should of bought a mercedes or bmw then


Honestly, I don't think it would make any difference at all. THere is so much in-between the cabin and the wheel wells already that the noise is most likely road noise comming through the windows etc. It's more around the car noise then through the car noise.

Titand19

You put in mirrors and now noise is coming from the wheel wells? Please explain.

CLpower

I think he ment that after elimination of road noise from the mirrors he now is focused on the wheel wells.



Have you driven in other cars, isn't your road noise ALOT quiter then theres?

beerknurd

I know someone is going to say to just turn the radio up....

I love my car, i'm just trying to improve upon an already quite riding car.

about the mirrors, I replaced the larger 01 mirrors for the 02/03 mirrors which are smaller and more aerodynamic. Now that the wind noise generated from the mirrors has decreased, i'm now focusing on the road noise.

I also have the Yoko AVS DB tires which are a quite riding tire.

CLpower

Honestly, I do not see it being worth it at all to do the matting. Instead you should look into dynomatting the doors and floor board, you'd see much better results.


I just dont see the wheel wells being a problem. There is just to much shit that the noise needs to travel through already. I'm sticking to my thoughts that it's popping up through the window, door, etc.

JaySyn77

Beer, why not dynamat your entire cabin? I dont think spraying your wheel wells would make a noticeable difference.

beerknurd

reason I'm focusing on the wheel wells is I noticed an increase in road noise after my comtech drop. I figured that there is now less space for the sound to escape from the wheel well and more is being directed through the lining.

I will be dynamating the doors, but i'm going to do that myself when i get some spare time. This is something that will only take about 45 mins of my time to remove and re-install the liner.

so far every thinks it's a waste so I guess i'm going to sh|t can the idea.

CLpower

if you do remove the liner, make sure you have backup clips, they break when being taken off.

beerknurd

Yeah, I broke a few of those clips already when installing the intake.

bkknight369

if you mod a car...expect unexpected results...

beerknurd

i'm not regretting the drop...

Has anyone else noticed a slight increase in road noise after a drop?

Shawn S

That’d be cool. Then you could HOSE OUT the interior like the Honda Element.

Shawn S

CLpower

every body who lowers their car

fender4

you can buy this stuff at Home Depot,,, it's called roofing tar,,,$4.99 gal,,, or at the local auto store, spray wheel well tar on is about $5... if you want less noise just spray it on thicker,,, don't forget the neon lights that go in there. just kidding

beerknurd

aight, so if it's common to get an increase in road noise when dropping your car, where is that noise coming from? The car is not generating any more noise unless the tighter spring is allowing sound to be transmitted through the suspension. It does alter the aerodynamics some. Or is it cause the car has a lower ground clearance and sound cannot escape as easy. My first assumption was that there was the decreased wheel gap was not allowing the noise to escape (if that's possible). If my first assumption is right, then a denser lining would help.

Shawn S

The aftermarket springs are STRONGER, SHORTER and probably made from a larger diameter material.
This allows more of the road vibrations to get through to the cabin because they’re not “soaked up” by the softer factory springs.
Plus if you’re running factory shocks they’re going to be somewhat compressed at all times and unable to absorb the imperfections of the road.

Shawn S

CLpower

what shawn said, that and your center of gravity is now closer to the ground so there is less space for the noise to go.

Wires

You're probably getting noise coupled from the suspension into the cabin. The Comptech springs are a little firmer, and will give more noise coupling than stock.

The only real solution would be to dynomat the cabin like said above.

Wires

But the road doesn't make noise, so there is no worries about trying to find a place for the noise to go. Like Shawn said, it's getting coupled into the cablin through stiffer springs.

That's the drawback of a uni-body suspension. You don't get that same frame to body isolation as the older vehicles had.

dgracer

I think the noise is more likely due to the lack of undercoating on the body, which through lowering is now closer to the ground. My dad bought the 3M spray on stuff for his old Tempo and it maid quite a difference. Just dont get it on the exhaust.

CLpower

rip up the carpet, there is quite a bit of sound deadening tar already on there.