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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 11:48 PM
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Question R1 Concept Rotors

Ok Im sick of every car I get I warp the rotors Im not looking to stop any better all I want is get a decent rotor better than stock.

So I found R1 concepts drilled and slotted rotors there a really good price. I put them on a friends 05 grand am last year and hes a crazy driver and hes had no issues. I was wondering if anyone has tried these rotors and what they think of them

Remeber I want something better than stock that is not going to warp on me (I dont need anything crazy like 2 piece BBKs)
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 12:21 AM
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Here you go fluffynuts, I'm not gonna find the answer for you because I really have no need for this information.

I broke it down for you by titles and even in second gen CL section, just incase some odd ass reason the TLs and CLs wor them differently; just click the link and enjoy.

https://acurazine.com/forums/search....archid=1249278
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 01:15 AM
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I think Noah has or had R1 rotors...
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 07:34 AM
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and they are warped. im running EBC ultimax rotors and so is cjitty.

big thing to keep in mind about rotors is torque specs on your lug nuts. 80 ft lbs per lug

drlled rotors warp easily. i would get slotted
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by EliteDemon
I think Noah has or had R1 rotors...
I do...

Originally Posted by phee
and they are warped.

drlled rotors warp easily. i would get slotted
And mine are warping...

Don't get drilled.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 11:31 AM
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Using a torque wrench on the front nuts will help a lot.


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I do...



And mine are warping...

Don't get drilled.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by CL6
Using a torque wrench on the front nuts will help a lot.
I used a torque wrench but what will that prevent?
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 12:03 PM
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So your saying I should just get slotted rotors ???
Damnit I like the look of d/s rotors

How long did it take for yours to warp
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MrFluffy
So your saying I should just get slotted rotors ???
Damnit I like the look of d/s rotors

How long did it take for yours to warp
About a year...I have the drill/slotted.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 01:01 PM
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Here you go, best of both worlds. Same thing I posted in some other threads.

You can get the EBC rotors for under $200 a pair. Thats pretty cheap for a quality rotor.

Here is a great deal. I've used them on many cars and trucks, from racing to towing. Never once have I had a EBC rotor warp or crack. In fact the rotors have always outlasted the vehicle.

You can check there for the pads also. I've used all thier pads Green, Red, and Yellow. All are great.

Free shipping too!!!
http://www.placeforbrakes.com/produc...r=2001&avail=1
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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R1 Rotors are Horrible!!!!

I bought R1 rotors less than a year ago and the fronts are already warpped. These are extremely low quality rotors. Yes, they are cheaper than most but you will be buying better ones in a year. If I had just bought the EBC rotors as suggested earlier I would have been better in the long run.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 03:19 PM
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^ Exactly...

Age old argument of quality vs. quantity...

They are a cheap option but you will be looking to replace them sooner then later.

I can't remember exactly but think that if they are drilled...you can't resurface them.

Only slotted.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 04:31 PM
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 05:33 PM
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I bought my R1's around the same time Noah did, and mine are working fine. No warping whatsoever and I have put over 30k on them since then.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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i juat ordered my ebc ultimax front SET for 135 with free shipping from autoanything.com
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Is EBC just like the best-bang-for-buck-rotor or something? I mean Ive heard mixed reviews but Id rather go with a more reputable brand for my braking system...
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right now Im debating between StopTech or Rotora Rotors (slotted of course)
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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damn, thanks for letting us know phee and noah. im only going with slotted or blanks for my next set.
and you cant resurface drilled? just another reason to get slotted.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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Actually i dont think you can resurface slotted either but im not sure
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Originally Posted by aznboi2424
damn, thanks for letting us know phee and noah. im only going with slotted or blanks for my next set.
and you cant resurface drilled? just another reason to get slotted.
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Actually i dont think you can resurface slotted either but im not sure
That's just what I heard.

I don't know if it's a fact.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 09:19 PM
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Looks like you can resurface both:

http://www.carquest.com/common/downl...QB%2003-05.pdf

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...ed-rotors.html
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 09:21 PM
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Resurfacing a drilled/slotted rotor would probably be very foolish since youre just making it thinner and most likely increasing the probability that there will be stress fractures occuring near the drilled holes.
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by CL-SA
Is EBC just like the best-bang-for-buck-rotor or something? I mean Ive heard mixed reviews but Id rather go with a more reputable brand for my braking system...

For the CLS they are very well priced. Some of thier other applications can get costly. The CLS rotors from EBC are now made in Japan. They just opened a new casting plant for select products. No Chinese/Taiwanese steel used in them.

What are some of the mixed reviews you have read? Like I said, I've never had a problem over the last 10 years using them. I have had a towing application resurfaced at 80K miles due to a glaze. That's it. Never a warp, or crack. At $179.00 a set for the CLS I don't think you can find a better rotor for that price.
No I'm not paid by EBC, just a loyal happy customer.
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by CL-SA
Resurfacing a drilled/slotted rotor would probably be very foolish since youre just making it thinner and most likely increasing the probability that there will be stress fractures occuring near the drilled holes.

The problem with resurfacing driller rotors really is not making them thiner, (your only taking a few thousandths off) but that any good drilled rotor will have a bevel before the hole is drilled to prevent cracking. When you resurface them you are removing that bevel, and heat build up at the drilled hole is no longer uniform, and will promote cracking.

MrFluffy, DBA rotors are very good from what I have seen. Just another option. A little pricey, but it's a quality rotor.

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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by nf3d0149ab
I used a torque wrench but what will that prevent?
I have read that over torquing the lug nuts will lead to warping. So when the dip shit at Big O' Tires decides to put you wheels on with a impact gun at 200+ Ft lbs, STOP HIM!! They claim they use a stop stick, thier full of shit. Make them use a TQ wrech. Not to mention it F's streches the threads.
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still Im getting a set of R1 concept, 4 rotors for $114.99 Drilled and slotted.

But like I siad I warp my rotors, its my driving style, but now that you guys have siad you warp them I think Im going to get the EBC ones for the front and the R1s for the back I think there like $50 for the back.

thanks for the info
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Originally Posted by CH46ESeaKnight
For the CLS they are very well priced. Some of thier other applications can get costly. The CLS rotors from EBC are now made in Japan. They just opened a new casting plant for select products. No Chinese/Taiwanese steel used in them.

What are some of the mixed reviews you have read? Like I said, I've never had a problem over the last 10 years using them. I have had a towing application resurfaced at 80K miles due to a glaze. That's it. Never a warp, or crack. At $179.00 a set for the CLS I don't think you can find a better rotor for that price.
No I'm not paid by EBC, just a loyal happy customer.
I dont know about that. Are you talking set as in all 4 or a set for the front and set for the back? Ive found Rotora and StopTech for a set for the front and a set for the back between $150-$180
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Originally Posted by MrFluffy
still Im getting a set of R1 concept, 4 rotors for $114.99 Drilled and slotted.

But like I siad I warp my rotors, its my driving style, but now that you guys have siad you warp them I think Im going to get the EBC ones for the front and the R1s for the back I think there like $50 for the back.

thanks for the info
god idea. our rears dont really warp. use autoanything for the ebc's free shipping and the lowest price on the net
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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I've got R1 Concepts drilled/slotted, I think I was one of the first to get them on AZine. I've had them for about a year and they're still perfect.
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I have a set currently, i bedded them in right, but they still warped after a while. I'd go with rotoras if I were u
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I did a write up

https://acurazine.com/forums/1g-tsx-performance-parts-modifications-126/review-cross-drilled-slotted-rotors-r1concepts-676477/
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^ So whats your final verdict? Buy them or not?
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 06:02 PM
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If they warp on any car there going to warp on mine

Im getting Rotora for the front and R1s for the back
thats my verdict

Thanks for the info everyone It was extremly helpful
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I put R1 Concepts drilled/slotted rotors on my CL 2years ago and they warped on me after a year. So yea, id stick with the Rotora ones if I were you.

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Mine are still going strong. no warp! still as smooth as the day i bought them.
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^thats because you dont have a cls motor...lol jp... but seriously though.
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Mr Fluffy, take a look here at post number 7 before you buy Rotora.

https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-cl-2001-2003-50/rotora-rotors-warranty-477515/

Also it took 4 or 5 phone calls to Rotora before I was told they use blanks made in China/Taiwan, not a good thing. A vendor on here will argue this fact, but won't say himself where they are made. I've never found any evidence that they are made anywhere else.

99% of thoes rotors you see on Ebay are also China blanks. China uses soft inconsitante steel, this promotes warping.

What ever you decide, good luck!
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I have used Rotora for around 8 years on my car.....never once have I warped a rotor from them. It all goes back to proper bedding, and proper torque on the lug nuts. Liked them so much, I spent 1750 for the 2-piece BBK kit! LOL
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Originally Posted by TOPHER33884
I have used Rotora for around 8 years on my car.....never once have I warped a rotor from them. It all goes back to proper bedding, and proper torque on the lug nuts. Liked them so much, I spent 1750 for the 2-piece BBK kit! LOL
I tried to go back and edit but ran out of time. In contrast I should have said I have read a few bad things about every brake company out there, including EBC. I just found less warping and cracking issues with the EBC's. My ONLY complaint about EBC was the dust from the Red Stuff pads. My yellows do not dust at all.

Just giving MrFluffy some other veiws. He seams to be very worried about warping.
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