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Pics with cut springs.
Saturday I woke up and trimmed 2 coils off the top of my front springs and a hair less than 2 off the bottom of my rear springs. I cut my bump stops down to about 1/2 inches and reinstalled resulting in a little more than a 3" drop. The cutting tool of choice was a die grinder and the entire proceedure took about 2 hours. The rear suffered some pretty stiff negative camber, but that can be fixed easily. The ride is almost identical to stock. All in all, I couldn't be happier. Only draw back is every kid with a lowered civic wants to race now.
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I am sure we had this discussion before, but how safe could this be? Of course, if you plan to use it as show car, then it just wont matter.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Big_Pimp's_Type_S:
I am sure we had this discussion before, but how safe could this be? Of course, if you plan to use it as show car, then it just wont matter.
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I am sure we had this discussion before, but how safe could this be? Of course, if you plan to use it as show car, then it just wont matter.
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hows the handling??? is it any better then stock?? i had a civic dropped 2.5 and i still wiped out
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I haven't really tested out the handling. More than likely it's improved. The ride is a hair firmer..probably equal to that of a stock CL-S now.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 4pumpedCL:
I can't see how it wouldn't be safe. I didn't heat the springs in any way to change the spring rate or weaken them. I have to hold the spring while I'm lowering the car with a jack to seat it properly into it's spring perch, but it fits just like they did from the factory. The bottom of the front spring, and top of that rear spring seem to be somewhat progressive, that is what you DON'T want to cut. I didn't do this because I wanted to save money, I honestly believe that it's safe, and it's the closet you can get to a stock ride and still be lowered. But this is all only temporary until I'm able to truly get my car on the ground.</font>
I can't see how it wouldn't be safe. I didn't heat the springs in any way to change the spring rate or weaken them. I have to hold the spring while I'm lowering the car with a jack to seat it properly into it's spring perch, but it fits just like they did from the factory. The bottom of the front spring, and top of that rear spring seem to be somewhat progressive, that is what you DON'T want to cut. I didn't do this because I wanted to save money, I honestly believe that it's safe, and it's the closet you can get to a stock ride and still be lowered. But this is all only temporary until I'm able to truly get my car on the ground.</font>
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man i have to say that looks awesome as hell. I wish i knew how to do this so i could save money. But damn, it looks sweet. Just the way I want it. Is there any other alternatives than cuttng the stock springs??
I want my car just like that. But I dont want to copycat you.
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If you don't mind the ride...get coil overs....when I get the pics up...You'll see how low my front is..
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by X3.2CLSX:
man i have to say that looks awesome as hell. I wish i knew how to do this so i could save money. But damn, it looks sweet. Just the way I want it. Is there any other alternatives than cuttng the stock springs??
I want my car just like that. But I dont want to copycat you.
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man i have to say that looks awesome as hell. I wish i knew how to do this so i could save money. But damn, it looks sweet. Just the way I want it. Is there any other alternatives than cuttng the stock springs??
I want my car just like that. But I dont want to copycat you.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by moomaster_99:
If you don't mind the ride...get coil overs....when I get the pics up...You'll see how low my front is..
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If you don't mind the ride...get coil overs....when I get the pics up...You'll see how low my front is..
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Ok hurry up with those pics
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by moomaster_99:
If you don't mind the ride...get coil overs....when I get the pics up...You'll see how low my front is..
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If you don't mind the ride...get coil overs....when I get the pics up...You'll see how low my front is..
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Dyno,
where are you in Miami? DO you have any pics of your car? How does it look cuz im thinkin of getting 18s but i want the car to kinda tuck a little bit. Not too much though.
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where are you in Miami? DO you have any pics of your car? How does it look cuz im thinkin of getting 18s but i want the car to kinda tuck a little bit. Not too much though.
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That's what I said....it hangs on rails...but the ride leaves something to be desired....I can't figure out if Pumped just drives slower and more carefully....that's why it rides like stock or what....but when I cut springs in my first car...the ride went to shit...
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dyno_CL-S:
dude, the ride is bumpy as balls on coilovers. you gotta watch out on high speeds.
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If you don't mind the ride...get coil overs....when I get the pics up...You'll see how low my front is..
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If you don't mind the ride...get coil overs....when I get the pics up...You'll see how low my front is..
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Well damn, coilovers is the only way I can get my car to look like pumpedCL car??
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You can make it look anyway you want...they're coilovers....
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by X3.2CLSX:
Well damn, coilovers is the only way I can get my car to look like pumpedCL car??
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Well damn, coilovers is the only way I can get my car to look like pumpedCL car??
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I don't like it at all... Sorry, it looks too rice.
Cutting the springs instead of getting different ones seems like a cheap and dangerous way out to me. That lowerd look just looks dumb in my book. I don't see the point.
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Cutting the springs instead of getting different ones seems like a cheap and dangerous way out to me. That lowerd look just looks dumb in my book. I don't see the point.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Scorpius:
I don't like it at all... Sorry, it looks too rice.
That lowerd look just looks dumb in my book. I don't see the point.
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I don't like it at all... Sorry, it looks too rice.
That lowerd look just looks dumb in my book. I don't see the point.
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Personally I think it would be cooler if you just put it on hydraulics so you could park it with the sidepanels 1/4inch off the ground, but drive it at normal height (or anywhere in between).
That would be a lot cooler than the permanent change you made.
But I could see it being nice with some phat rims.![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/smile.gif)
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That would be a lot cooler than the permanent change you made.
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handling will definately be better than stock. it's just like purchasing lower springs.
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I just don't like the look. I think its pointless to do that. Go over a speedbump and you might bottom out.
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The ride quality is VERY close to stock. It handles bumps very well and has yet to bottom out, even with 4 people in the car tucking 1/2 tire in the back. I've riden in a car with coilovers and the ride is quite harsh. To the best of my knowledge, the only way to get a 3"+ drop and maintain a NEARLY STOCK ride quality is cutting the springs. Don't be afraid...
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Well, 4pumpedCL and I got together tonight and I was extremely impressed with the way his car looked and rode. I drove his and it seemed very close to the stock ride. You could feel the occasional sharp bump a little more than stock, but overall, it was very smooth; no bounciness at all. I'd have no complaints at all with the way it rode. I took a couple shots but the impending sunset ruined the pictures below. You can get a feel for the different drop levels. Looking at mine next his made it seem like it wasn't even lowered, even though it does have a conservative 1" drop.
Everybody keeps talking about the hazards of cutting springs, but if they aren't heated and the cut is reasonable, I don't see how things can be any more dangerous than stock springs. Some are saying that the struts will blow- this car doesn't even have struts. Others are saying how this is a permanent change- it took him just a few hours to do this. Replacement springs can always be purchased and swapped back in. Everybody seems so averse to cutting yet he's shown that it can be successfully done. Okay, I’ll step off my soapbox now.![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/smile.gif)
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Everybody keeps talking about the hazards of cutting springs, but if they aren't heated and the cut is reasonable, I don't see how things can be any more dangerous than stock springs. Some are saying that the struts will blow- this car doesn't even have struts. Others are saying how this is a permanent change- it took him just a few hours to do this. Replacement springs can always be purchased and swapped back in. Everybody seems so averse to cutting yet he's shown that it can be successfully done. Okay, I’ll step off my soapbox now.
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That top pic should be used as a Zaino ad. Look at the reflection in Fred's trunk opposed to mine...wow, I need to order some of that stuff.
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Heehee, Z-5 Swirl Remover's the way to go! There was a group buy going on over at the TL board. Don't know if it's closed yet.
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I'm glad it turn out good, and did u get your car align yet? Nice drop BTW keep noticing that rims on CL-P are closely identical to Si rims...
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i LOVE the looks.. and that s what i always wanted =( BUT i never cut my spriings to get that look. U WILL regret soon. trust me
BUT the look is definitely impressive, i have to admit that u will attract more attention =)
BUT the look is definitely impressive, i have to admit that u will attract more attention =)
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by tinman:
Everybody keeps talking about the hazards of cutting springs, but if they aren't heated and the cut is reasonable, I don't see how things can be any more dangerous than stock springs. Some are saying that the struts will blow- this car doesn't even have struts.
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Everybody keeps talking about the hazards of cutting springs, but if they aren't heated and the cut is reasonable, I don't see how things can be any more dangerous than stock springs. Some are saying that the struts will blow- this car doesn't even have struts.
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Cutting the springs is dangerous due to the possibility of cutting the coils unevenly, and even if cut properly, you increase the chance of having sporadic spring rates depending on how much you cut since the rate specs are considered throughout the coils, not just a certain amount of them. It won't be dangerous at first, but if the shocks were ever to go out, it definitely could be during a hard corner say on a bumpy overpass on a freeway.
Also, that comment about struts is kinda funny. You can BLOW SHOCKS just as easily as struts. Mcpherson strut assemblies are mounted differently than a double wishbone with shock assembly. However, dampers are dampers, and are usually valved specifically for a certain spring rate in mind, specifically the oem spring rate. When you change that rate, the dampers; be it a strut or shock, have less amount of travel space to dampen the same amount of energy, although who knows how much energy now since the rates are completely off with the cutting. Cutting the bumpstops is necessary in any lowering, to allow more travel space for the damper as well as the spring, so you reduce the risk of hitting it , i.e. bottoming out, before the damper overcomes the compressed spring energy and both rebound to their normal positioning, ofcourse during this rebound the damper also has to absorb the springs' rebound energy as well,, further adding stress on the damper.
How spring rates and compression of springs comes into play on the stress of the damper is unclear to me though. I assume a higher rate spring makes it so that there's less travel space for the damper to dampen it while still having the same amount of energy built up from the weight of the car and how deep the bump is. Or perhaps more energy is simply required to compress a higher rate spring, and therefore more energy is released during the rebound, a long with a shorter travel distance, adding stress to the damper.
The ride might be great now, but give it a year (and depending on how many miles you put on it within that time) and I guarantee you'll notice some changes in dampening rebound. The shocks will just simply wear out quicker, and the sporadic spring rates will make themselves known more prominently over this time. It is definitely better to go with a full coilover setup (not sleeve) as most are tailored to decrease the shock body height, while therefore increasing the piston travel to allow for proper compression and rebound on a lowered vehicle to suit the spring energy, and to ensure it doesn't take more ups n downs to absorb the energy (bounciness) as well as the springs having suitable spring rates so that they're not too stiff (bumpiness) since the shocks have adequate travel space to handle their rates. Trouble is, is finding an application for the CL Type S. In anycase, do whatcha like and enjoy it for what it's worth in the here n now. In a year, I'm not too sure. Not a supsension expert, just passin on what I've read. Okay, I'm off my soapbox now...
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dyno_CL-S:
dude, the ride is bumpy as balls on coilovers. you gotta watch out on high speeds.
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If you don't mind the ride...get coil overs....when I get the pics up...You'll see how low my front is..
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If you don't mind the ride...get coil overs....when I get the pics up...You'll see how low my front is..
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cut the spring..u will have the same effect of lowering ..but when u drive the car..u will feel very uncomfortable..that is because the whole spring setting is changed..u should buy the specific spring for lowering .but not cutting..very dangerous while drive...
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by type-S girl:
I've got the APEXi adjustable coilovers and the ride is almost like stock. The car handles much better also. Why are you gonna get a pretty expensive car and lower it the cheap way? Gotta get the good sh!t...</font>
I've got the APEXi adjustable coilovers and the ride is almost like stock. The car handles much better also. Why are you gonna get a pretty expensive car and lower it the cheap way? Gotta get the good sh!t...</font>
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Type S:
cut the spring..u will have the same effect of lowering ..but when u drive the car..u will feel very uncomfortable..that is because the whole spring setting is changed..u should buy the specific spring for lowering .but not cutting..very dangerous while drive...
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cut the spring..u will have the same effect of lowering ..but when u drive the car..u will feel very uncomfortable..that is because the whole spring setting is changed..u should buy the specific spring for lowering .but not cutting..very dangerous while drive...
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4pumpedCL said the ride was close to stock. I backed him up on this. It's not uncomfortable at all. And what makes it dangerous while driving?
-=SoCalV6=-: Thanks for your thoughtful response above. It included specific issues that can be discussed (instead of generic responses like "it's bad. don't do it!"). I’m no suspension expert either but here are my views to some of the issues you mentioned.
There is the possibility of uneven cutting but it's not hard to measure and mark things (as 4pumpedCL did) to get an even cut. Cutting may change the spring rate and the shocks may eventually go out but how are things any different if you had uncut springs and you took a hard corner on a bumpy freeway overpass where the shocks failed (your example)? I'd think you'd be in better shape with cut springs since the car would have a lower center of gravity. Even if the shocks did blow out, I don't see that that would guarantee loss of control as say a snapped tie rod end or broken lower control arm would. Sure, cutting the springs increases wear on the shocks which increases the chance of them failing but aftermarket springs add extra stress as well. This increased wear can be balanced with more durable aftermarket shocks.
I realize shocks can blow just as easily as struts. An earlier post mentioned potential problems with the struts from cutting and I brought up the fact that the car doesn’t have struts to highlight that some of these posts may not be 100% informed. Okay, I admit that was too harsh. Sorry. I should've given benefit of doubt and considered that the post was referring to dampers in general.
Even if professionally designed aftermarket springs are used, there's a good chance you'll notice differences in dampening rebound with stock shocks in time. Eibach ProKit springs on my other car accelerated wear on the stock dampers (struts and shocks) to the point that they needed replacing within a year or so of spring installation. Cut springs and aftermarket springs both add extra stress to dampers. Again, good aftermarket shocks would increase longevity.
Thanks again for bringing up specific issues. That’s the only way to reasonably discuss the pros and cons of cutting. I may be foolish but I still think a moderately cut spring is not all the guaranteed gloom and doom that people keep saying.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Type S:
cut the spring..u will have the same effect of lowering ..but when u drive the car..u will feel very uncomfortable..that is because the whole spring setting is changed..u should buy the specific spring for lowering .but not cutting..very dangerous while drive...
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cut the spring..u will have the same effect of lowering ..but when u drive the car..u will feel very uncomfortable..that is because the whole spring setting is changed..u should buy the specific spring for lowering .but not cutting..very dangerous while drive...
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Does anyone really know what the negative effects of cutting springs are, maybe from experience? I've also heard the things that everyone has posted so far, but how bad is it really? What if you cut them slightly shorter and not to the extreme that was done here, say, enough to lower about 1.5"? Cutting springs does seem very ghetto to me, something I have never even considered, but are all the arguments against it just some way for aftermarket spring companies to increase profits?
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It is my duty to imform you that you are rice.
I feel bad citing a fellow CL but thats the way it goes.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by tinman:
Well, 4pumpedCL and I got together tonight and I was extremely impressed with the way his car looked and rode. I drove his and it seemed very close to the stock ride. You could feel the occasional sharp bump a little more than stock, but overall, it was very smooth; no bounciness at all. I'd have no complaints at all with the way it rode. I took a couple shots but the impending sunset ruined the pictures below. You can get a feel for the different drop levels. Looking at mine next his made it seem like it wasn't even lowered, even though it does have a conservative 1" drop.
Everybody keeps talking about the hazards of cutting springs, but if they aren't heated and the cut is reasonable, I don't see how things can be any more dangerous than stock springs. Some are saying that the struts will blow- this car doesn't even have struts. Others are saying how this is a permanent change- it took him just a few hours to do this. Replacement springs can always be purchased and swapped back in. Everybody seems so averse to cutting yet he's shown that it can be successfully done. Okay, I’ll step off my soapbox now.![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/smile.gif)
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Well, 4pumpedCL and I got together tonight and I was extremely impressed with the way his car looked and rode. I drove his and it seemed very close to the stock ride. You could feel the occasional sharp bump a little more than stock, but overall, it was very smooth; no bounciness at all. I'd have no complaints at all with the way it rode. I took a couple shots but the impending sunset ruined the pictures below. You can get a feel for the different drop levels. Looking at mine next his made it seem like it wasn't even lowered, even though it does have a conservative 1" drop.
Everybody keeps talking about the hazards of cutting springs, but if they aren't heated and the cut is reasonable, I don't see how things can be any more dangerous than stock springs. Some are saying that the struts will blow- this car doesn't even have struts. Others are saying how this is a permanent change- it took him just a few hours to do this. Replacement springs can always be purchased and swapped back in. Everybody seems so averse to cutting yet he's shown that it can be successfully done. Okay, I’ll step off my soapbox now.
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The CL on the left needs a spoiler, rims and corners while the one on the right needs to take off the badging. nice cars thou
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I can't stop laughing Scorpius... I agree with the citation! Some people wonder why other drivers turn away from them shaking their head, well, everyone, this is why.
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It pains me to do this but I have no regrets. That car might appear on ricecop.com, I don't know.
Have some respect for the car and the eingineers who designed it. Don't make it something it isn't.
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